Walter S

Uh the broadcast started with you. If anything I’m just a little relay station. If you’re worried about stalkers then YOU should watch what you say. Are my posts more public than yours?

tandempower

I'm just saying I would post personal information about you even if you posted it first. It's unlikely that people are going to go back digging through posts searching for personal info, but the more you repost it, the greater the chance that some crazy person would abuse the information. If you have any respect for human decency, restrict your attacks on me to saying things that don't have any potential to cause me personal risk.

Walter S

You’re drawing quite a lot of attention to yourself with all this dribble about it no?

My profile says where I live. I don’t care and didn’t know you did either particularly because you shared in a public post. In fact you were much more specific than just the name of the state.

Again, you made it public not me. Watch your mouth if you feel so personally threatened.

tandempower

Idk, but all I'm asking is for you to understand to avoid explicating personal information and instead you want to debate. What's so hard about basic respect?

I don't think it's asking too much for you to avoid pursuing personal aspects of my life in your posts.

Walter S

I’m not pursuing anything. I just referenced some public knowledge that you now claim to be sensitive. I had no way of knowing you would expect information shared on a public forum to not be repeated in any context. Why can’t you drop it? What are you looking for? An apology?

Mobile 155

Dude we have had a lot of debates over the years and many times on different sides. But some of the best advice given in the forum neither of us seem to heed. Debating this one poster never has a positive outcome. It is close to hopeless.

How can we respond to someone that believes people starve, get cold or too hot because they are obstinate adults and or children? How do you defend knowing where someone says they live as if knowing that is your fault even if the person them self released the information? Cannot be done I am afraid.

Walter S

I bet he wouldn’t care about me saying where he lives if he were preaching about coping with cold from his igloo in Canada.

tandempower

An apology would be decent, but I don't expect it. I don't see why you can't acknowledge that it's better to just leave personal information like location out of your posts, even if someone posted such information at some point themselves in the past. Do you really hate me so much on a personal level that you would want to post potentially harmful information about me publicly? Are you really that malicious, or just so pride-defensive that you refuse to admit you're wrong and agree with me that it would be better to avoid including such information in posts?

Roody

And yet people don't seem to realize it. At least they settle in areas (like Dubai and many other places) where there is no fresh water, then figure out expensive ways to obtain it.

Walter S

I find you more amusing than hateful. Again, I posted less personal detail on you than you did on yourself. You reveal personal details about yourself on the internet and expect to somehow control the dissemination of that information? Or do you just hate yourself so much on a personal level that you would want to post potentially harmful information about yourself publically?

Walter S

I doubt droves of people flock to a place that has no reasonable access to water. Sustainable populations grow over time into unsustainable populations as people have babies one at a time over the years and/or climate patterns change. Or people have increasingly less water because of other growing areas nearby soaking up the supply. Combine that with the fact that underground water tables (where most drinking water comes from) are sinking as water is taken out faster than it can be naturally replaced.

There are too many people on the planet and that's starting to show itself. More and more places that used to have adequate water supplies will not if the trend continues. That's why water utilities have become a very hot investment in recent years. Water is expected to get much more expensive over the new couple decades.

jack pot 

Walter S ... abandon power ... LCF is an almost insurmountable burden voluntarily embraced by no one save and except a few quixotics > 5+ years of being in the car free prison when i was younger and now biking to my liking but i own a car ... this thread is politics wo the pols & religions ... i can say that the car free mormon missionaries who regularly visit me on their BIKES so that we can trade missionary tales and talk BIKE living are the purest example of LCF that i have encountered

I-Like-To-Bike

More entertainment related to the rantings and lifestyles of street corner style Internet preachers/holy rollers:

Good luck trying to have a "constructive discussion" with one of 'em!

tandempower

Sometimes I say things that can be correlated with certain areas. I try to be as vague as possible while giving enough information to contextualize what I am saying. Why do you keep arguing instead of just agreeing that it's better to minimize what we say about our knowledge of each other on a personal level?

Walter S

I think it’s better to limit personal data coming from you. You think you can support your arguments with personal information that nobody else can repeat. You should limit what you say about yourself rather than give out personal information and expect me to know you consider sensitive.

tandempower

Ok, you won't/can't take any responsibility so there's no point discussing it further. Watch out for the time someone says something about you that you don't want them to say and then they blame you for enabling it instead of simply apologizing and trying to avoid doing it again.

Walter S

No worries. I have nothing to hide. Why should I apologize? How was I to know you're stupid enough to blab where you live and then get pissed when people make reference to that info? I thought you saying where you live means you don't care if people know, since obviously it's pretty dumb to do that when you don't want the information known. So I mistakenly credited you with more intelligence than that in making my assumptions. I'll do better next time

Maelochs

Why should anyone else take responsibility for something YOU said? You man up, and take responsibility, how about that?

You guys are hilarious. Tandem is the perfect straight man--he has absolutely no idea the things he says are howlingly funny in themselves and also the perfect set-up for even funnier responses.

FBOATSB

Please don't spoil my entertainment while I'm shut in til spring

tandempower

People take responsibility for respecting others sometimes, if their pride doesn't prevent them from admitting when they're wrong.

Walter S

I freely admit that you think I was wrong

But if you think it is wrong to refer to a little subset of the personal information that you yourself share publicly then you really might want to reflect on that some. Ha!

Mobile 155

I guess he simply doesn't remember the people that were concerned back when Irma hit the US. Doesn't remember anyone asking about evacuations.

tandempower

Why condescend? Why not just stop talking about it if you don't have anything nice to say?

You never know when some crazy person is going to misuse information. Best not to repeat personal information, even if it was shared publicly.

Walter S

I will when you do.

tandempower

Of course I do, but the point isn't people who are thoughtful and concerned. The point is that some people might figure out where someone is and stalk them for some insane reason. For me, disagreements are just verbal but some people take it further, in case you haven't noticed from reading the news everyday.