Rsnead91

Hello!

I came across two fine condition Peugeots with (at least I'm pretty sure) all original parts. They had just been sitting in a fellas basement for the last 25 years. Only need a little TLC. I was hoping to stumble upon a px10 double whammy, but instead I think I've found a couple pre-77 UO8s. Based on the pictures, could anyone confirm this for me?

bikemig 

Yep UO 8 and looks pretty much original. Nice pick up.

juvela

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Looks like 1972...and it even has the original rubber(!).

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jj1091

Definitely a early to mid 70's model UO-8. Usually you can find a date code on the rims, look for a number in a diamond, following the Rigida Chrolux, like <73>. Or, you might find a date code on the hubs, like "11 73". Looks like it should clean up well, in better condition than most of them I've had. Is that case a vintage eyeglasses case, or a small tool pouch?

altenwrencher

That's a Mafac tool kit. One came with my UO-8, ca. 1972. A variety of stamped steel tools including spoke wrench. Kinda nifty.

Are those "ears" above the rear brake, intended for a rear rack? Mine didn't have them.

juvela

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Good eye on the rack mounts. Note also the vertically drilled brake bridge. Not features of the usual U08.

Might be explained if wheel size 700 rather than 27.

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markk900

There’s also a generator mount on the off side seat stay - UE-8 with the fenders and lights removed?

bikemig 

This might have started out life as a UE 8? This is mine which is pretty much all original except for the bars of course.

jj1091

That's correct, a UE-8. You can also see the tabs under the downtube for wiring, looks like the forward one still has a bit of a connector or shrink tubing in it. Now, it's an upgrade! Good catch.

Rsnead91

Good guess. I checked and the rims had <73>. Need to examine the hubs. Also, that is a MAFAC tool kit.

My qualms with the UE8 theory.. If this bike is from 1973, were the UE8's in production at that point? And in the US. Seems likely either this bike is older than 1973 or it should at least have fenders on it.

jj1091

Yes, there were UE-8's marketed in the US prior to 1973, though I don't have a catalog scan for it. Here's two, one from Canada for 1969, and one from Japan for 1970.

https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Broch...hure%20UE8.jpg

https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Broch...970s_A_p10.jpg

As you can see, the one from the Japan catalog nearly exactly matches your bike. It's quite common to see UE-8's stripped of their accessories, even when everything else is all-original.

markk900

While with Peugeot everything is variable, I thought that the headbadge and crest on the down tube was triangular up to around 1971, and later became rectagular. That 1970s Japan catalog shows the rectangular one but the 1969 Canada catalog shows the triangular shield. So I could be wrong but I would have put the OP’s bike no earlier than 1971/72..... and yes, fenders and lights appear to have been removed.

jj1091

This is what I've been using for general reference, seems to be accurate to within a year.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-timeline.html

jj1091

Also, note that the headbadge shown for 1971 shows "Made In France" at the base, which isn't true for the headbadge, but is true for the seat-tube shield. Both my '75 PX-50, and '71 PX-10 have this version, except that the PX-10's isn't a decal, but a thin foil badge, with rivets, and isn't made with a red background, but with gold.

For originality's sake, when you see a headbadge that says "Made In France", it's a reproduction. Same is true for the downtube decals, when you see the rainbow stripes at the top and bottom, if there's a green stripe towards the center both at the top and the bottom, then it's a reproduction. The originals have the green stripe at the bottom on both ends. But hey, for Peugeot's sake, don't hold me to that, sure enough somebody will come up with one....

juvela

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1972 was the first year for the NERVAR chrome chainguard on U.S. market products.

The Lyotard 36 pedals may be a date aid as they exhibit the integral reflectors making them the R version.

IIRC a 1971 bike would have had the older pattern Juy QR skewers rather than these.

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markk900

And my '69 (or '70, who knows for sure?) AO-8 has the foil badge, with a red background, and no rivets....

dddd

Should also be a date code on the rear derailer outer cage plate.


Maybe 'cause the cable housing is in the way, but I see no trauma to the paint on the rear dropout fender mount to indicate that fenders had ever been installed on this bike(?). What about the other side?

jj1091

Ahhhh, then yours is a 1968 model, maybe the ultra-rare '67-1/2.

ryansu

For me when I see stamped steel dropouts and derlin plastic shifters that always points to a UO/UE model. Then its off to the catalog scans to figure out the year/model based on decals, headbadge, paint color etc.