Explain skip stopping to me
10-18-13, 03:25 PM
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Explain skip stopping to me
I was riding single speed for a while but just converted to fixed a few months ago. I have no problems skidding but I keep reading that skip stopping is more efficient or stops you faster.
I have read Sheldon Brown's definition of skip stopping and watched some youtube videos and to me it seems like it's essentially the same thing as skidding. Am I missing something?
I have read Sheldon Brown's definition of skip stopping and watched some youtube videos and to me it seems like it's essentially the same thing as skidding. Am I missing something?
10-18-13, 03:32 PM
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you just lift your back tire up to do a series of little skids, i never understood why people say its better
10-18-13, 03:33 PM
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Skip stopping generally involves hopping the wheel a few times to do several mini-skids in succession. Every time you skip, you can better resist the motion of the pedals, making it a more effective way to slow down the bike as opposed to one continuous skid.
10-18-13, 03:40 PM
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Got it. I can't seem to lift the rear wheel. I stand up and lock my legs to skid. Maybe it will just come with experience
10-18-13, 06:00 PM
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Yeah, front wheel generally stays on the ground though. It feels a bit weird at first, and then you're like "Oh. This is easy."
10-18-13, 06:20 PM
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10-19-13, 12:26 AM
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Moderating speed with bunny hop skids.
Often times you find yourself going too fast and without a brake because in hindsight it was worth it to be "cool" and what's "in". You've judged doing a complete skid to a usual stop too risky or outright impossible because your legs aren't strong enough to handle the torque of our bike's drivetrain. You might tip over or get speed wobbles and eat asphalt with a side of road rash. What do you do? You can moderate your speed by doing bunny hop skids. If you've ever seen a FGFS "edit" video, you might notice that riders pop up their rear wheels a couple of times right before performing a trick. That is a bunny hop skid, it helps moderate speed at minimal effort in the case you're going too fast. In essence its name describes what it is. A bunny hop skid can be described as a mini skid where you would stand up while leaning forward and hop up while in your toe cages. What this does is, you will pop up your rear wheel off the ground and into the air, slowing it down, and in principle the drag of it will slow you down as a whole when it makes contact with the ground again. This may seem to do little in slowing you down but it is meant to be done multiple times continually until you're at the speed desired, able to perform a longer skid, or apply enough backpedaling to stop.
Often times you find yourself going too fast and without a brake because in hindsight it was worth it to be "cool" and what's "in". You've judged doing a complete skid to a usual stop too risky or outright impossible because your legs aren't strong enough to handle the torque of our bike's drivetrain. You might tip over or get speed wobbles and eat asphalt with a side of road rash. What do you do? You can moderate your speed by doing bunny hop skids. If you've ever seen a FGFS "edit" video, you might notice that riders pop up their rear wheels a couple of times right before performing a trick. That is a bunny hop skid, it helps moderate speed at minimal effort in the case you're going too fast. In essence its name describes what it is. A bunny hop skid can be described as a mini skid where you would stand up while leaning forward and hop up while in your toe cages. What this does is, you will pop up your rear wheel off the ground and into the air, slowing it down, and in principle the drag of it will slow you down as a whole when it makes contact with the ground again. This may seem to do little in slowing you down but it is meant to be done multiple times continually until you're at the speed desired, able to perform a longer skid, or apply enough backpedaling to stop.
10-19-13, 11:10 AM
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There's nothing efficient about skidding or skipping. In fact, cars have some pretty advanced control systems built in to prevent skidding, which helps minimize stopping distance while panic braking.
10-19-13, 11:14 AM
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Your cog is slipping.
Having fun is totally stupid and uncalled for. Bikes are serious business, kids.
10-19-13, 11:44 AM
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Several of the other replies and the original posting implied that it's a "more effective" way of stopping. I just refuse to be a knowledgeable person who sits by while people discuss its effectiveness when it's actually ineffective.
Several of the other replies and the original posting implied that it's a "more effective" way of stopping. I just refuse to be a knowledgeable person who sits by while people discuss its effectiveness when it's actually ineffective.
10-19-13, 12:42 PM
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I am riding a track bike that doesn't have mount for a rear brake, otherwise I would run both. I have a front brake but it's not always accessible depending on where my hands are. The brake is on the flat of my bullhorn so in heavy traffic and intersections I ride with my hands covering it and also gives me more up right heads up position in traffic. But on quieter side streets I like to be able to ride on the bar ends and use my legs to slow and stop and occasionally pedestrians, animals and cars do stupid stuff and I need to stop quickly so I'm just trying to see what my best option is when the brake is not in easy reach
10-19-13, 01:42 PM
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I use cash in the seedy parts of town.
Several of the other replies and the original posting implied that it's a "more effective" way of stopping. I just refuse to be a knowledgeable person who sits by while people discuss its effectiveness when it's actually ineffective.
Several of the other replies and the original posting implied that it's a "more effective" way of stopping. I just refuse to be a knowledgeable person who sits by while people discuss its effectiveness when it's actually ineffective.
10-20-13, 06:14 PM
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10-21-13, 06:25 AM
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I am riding a track bike that doesn't have mount for a rear brake, otherwise I would run both. I have a front brake but it's not always accessible depending on where my hands are. The brake is on the flat of my bullhorn so in heavy traffic and intersections I ride with my hands covering it and also gives me more up right heads up position in traffic. But on quieter side streets I like to be able to ride on the bar ends and use my legs to slow and stop and occasionally pedestrians, animals and cars do stupid stuff and I need to stop quickly so I'm just trying to see what my best option is when the brake is not in easy reach
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10-21-13, 06:42 AM
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Your cog is slipping.
This thread isn't about brakes or their effectiveness. It's about the OP wanting to learn how to do skip skids.
10-21-13, 07:13 AM
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noone ever said any kind of skid was better than using a brake
10-21-13, 07:40 AM
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Your cog is slipping.
