Help with new groupset selection
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Help with new groupset selection
I'm currently riding a BMC with Rival and have been very happy with the performance. I ride regularly but am not competitive.
I currently have a Chinese carbon frame that I hope to have built up for when the snow goes away and I'm having trouble deciding on a new groupset to order for the frame.
I plan on going fairly cheap and I'd like to try something different than SRAM for a little variety so I've narrowed it down to Shimano 105 or Campagnolo Centaur. Whichever set I go with I'll be ordering from Europe to save a couple hundred bucks.
I've read that some people don't like the new Centaur groupset because it has powershift rather than ultrashift but that's not an issue for me. Also, is there a difference between the regular black group and the black/red group other than the colour?
Considering they are both 10 speed and around the same price is there a reason to go one way over the other? My main concern is which one has better build quality and reliability.
I currently have a Chinese carbon frame that I hope to have built up for when the snow goes away and I'm having trouble deciding on a new groupset to order for the frame.
I plan on going fairly cheap and I'd like to try something different than SRAM for a little variety so I've narrowed it down to Shimano 105 or Campagnolo Centaur. Whichever set I go with I'll be ordering from Europe to save a couple hundred bucks.
I've read that some people don't like the new Centaur groupset because it has powershift rather than ultrashift but that's not an issue for me. Also, is there a difference between the regular black group and the black/red group other than the colour?
Considering they are both 10 speed and around the same price is there a reason to go one way over the other? My main concern is which one has better build quality and reliability.
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I believe Centaur is lighter than 105, but they are both good. I don't think there is any difference to the red/black other than the bit of bling.
Between Shimano and Campy, it comes down to ergonomics. See if you can find a couple of bikes to fondle and see which hoods you prefer.
Between Shimano and Campy, it comes down to ergonomics. See if you can find a couple of bikes to fondle and see which hoods you prefer.
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Do you value having cassettes and rear wheels/wheelsets that can traded from bike to bike?
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If you going with a Chinese carbon frame, why not keep it ALL on the cheap with MicroSHIFT?
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I believe Centaur is lighter than 105, but they are both good. I don't think there is any difference to the red/black other than the bit of bling.
Between Shimano and Campy, it comes down to ergonomics. See if you can find a couple of bikes to fondle and see which hoods you prefer.
Between Shimano and Campy, it comes down to ergonomics. See if you can find a couple of bikes to fondle and see which hoods you prefer.
Here's the frame I'll be building up...
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If you going with a Chinese carbon frame, why not keep it ALL on the cheap with MicroSHIFT?
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I'm a Rival guy myself, so I'd go with Red, but for you I'd say Campy. Why? Because then you'll be cooler.
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I suggest going with Shimano simply for convenience and compatibility with your BMC. While you say you are good with wheels, it is always nice to have a back up set if something should happen, even if that means pulling a wheel off another bike.
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I tend to agree (which is why I mentioned it). I have 3 wheelsets (plus an extra rear wheel) for 2 road bikes. Two wheelsets for my MTB as well (slick vs. knobby tires). Sounds like the OP has at least considered that potential benefit, but doesn't put a lot of stock in it.
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Campy 10 speed shifters, crank, and FD, Rival RD, Shimano 105 cassette and shimano compatible freehub, KMC chain. Cheapest setup of all, and then no one feels left out.
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I also totally agree with this. I switch wheels often. Not only for repair reasons but mostly just for fun.
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I agree, but remember that SRAM and Shimano cassette spacing is identical.
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Sure! Per the interweb, you could do Centaur shifters, Red RD, and DA cassette. Or do 11 speed Record (or SR) shifters and a DA 10 speed RD, with the cable routed hub-ub.
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For all reasons other than practical ones Campagnolo is must in this day and age. Everything else is too pedestrian to contemplate.
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If you're not racing, it's not a lot. Get what you like. I'd go with Shimano, but that's only so I could use wheels between the two bikes. That's just me though.
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Having had a 105 (5700) bike, a Campy Veloce shifters and shimano rear end (JTek #3), and a Campy Veloce Shifter/ all other Centaur bike, I would take Campy 10 speed every time for the following reasons:
1) It was cheaper.
2) The JTek was annoying and more finnicky.
3) The hood ergonomics of Campy fit my hands far better (and I have large hands)
4) The front shifting on Campy was smoother. The rear shifting on 105 was smoother, with the whole Shimano "buttery" feeling. I don't like buttery, so the Campy bang was more to my liking.
The decision was not based on weight, or which was more or less pedestrian.
EDIT: My next build will be a 105 downtube shifter build, so my stuff is project specific.
1) It was cheaper.
2) The JTek was annoying and more finnicky.
3) The hood ergonomics of Campy fit my hands far better (and I have large hands)
4) The front shifting on Campy was smoother. The rear shifting on 105 was smoother, with the whole Shimano "buttery" feeling. I don't like buttery, so the Campy bang was more to my liking.
The decision was not based on weight, or which was more or less pedestrian.
EDIT: My next build will be a 105 downtube shifter build, so my stuff is project specific.