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10-27-15, 07:54 PM
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1982 Bianchi pantograph
This fall I purchased this Bianchi Campione del Mondo12v from the original owner. The seller said he raced some but the bike doesn't look as it was used much at all.
The bicycle has red pantographed gooseneck, forks, seat post but is missing the chain ring. I purchased the pictured chain ring but it ended up being an incorrect bolt pattern (151mm).
Is that chainring an appropriate style for my bike? The crankset below is 144mm; what years was it used?
The bicycle has red pantographed gooseneck, forks, seat post but is missing the chain ring. I purchased the pictured chain ring but it ended up being an incorrect bolt pattern (151mm).
Is that chainring an appropriate style for my bike? The crankset below is 144mm; what years was it used?
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10-28-15, 09:23 AM
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A 144mm BCD would be highly appropriate for a road bike from the late 1960s through the early 1980s, and it is what came on my Bianchi, which appears to have the same tre tubi frame yours does. What is your full serial number? European bikes are notorious for inconsistent serial numbering, but with Bianchi the leading digit of the S/N was often last digit of the year of frame manufacture.
The Bianchi-branded cranks were probably made by Ofmega -- mine came with 144mm BCD Ofmega cranks, which I have since replaced with newer Bianchi-branded Ofmegas with a modern 130mm BCD. The ones you show look pretty ornate, and I am not sure of their date of manufacture.
The Bianchi-branded cranks were probably made by Ofmega -- mine came with 144mm BCD Ofmega cranks, which I have since replaced with newer Bianchi-branded Ofmegas with a modern 130mm BCD. The ones you show look pretty ornate, and I am not sure of their date of manufacture.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
10-28-15, 09:40 AM
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That's a lovely bike. Piaggio Bianchi, matching frame pump, nice!
I hate to say it, but I can't help but wonder if the fork is slightly bent? It could just be the photo.
I hate to say it, but I can't help but wonder if the fork is slightly bent? It could just be the photo.
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10-28-15, 10:17 AM
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Beautiful bike!!! The crankset you pictured would look great - I wouldn't worry too much about exact years if you're upgrading pantographed parts. FYI fork doesn't look bent to me, I think its just because the bars are angled slightly away in the picture. Looks to be in stunning shape - wish the paint on mine looked that good! Love the red in-fills as well. 
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Congratulations on finding a nice old Bianchi. I'd watched eBay for a long time and so many of them are beat up and/or rusty.
I finally saw an '82 Nuova Racing on my local Craigslist in nice condition and grabbed it.
I finally saw an '82 Nuova Racing on my local Craigslist in nice condition and grabbed it.
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Love it. That looks very similar to the one I bought (my first nice road bike) in 1983 or 1984.
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This fall I purchased this Bianchi Campione del Mondo12v from the original owner. The seller said he raced some but the bike doesn't look as it was used much at all.
The bicycle has red pantographed gooseneck, forks, seat post but is missing the chain ring. I purchased the pictured chain ring but it ended up being an incorrect bolt pattern (151mm).
Is that chainring an appropriate style for my bike? The crankset below is 144mm; what years was it used?
The bicycle has red pantographed gooseneck, forks, seat post but is missing the chain ring. I purchased the pictured chain ring but it ended up being an incorrect bolt pattern (151mm).
Is that chainring an appropriate style for my bike? The crankset below is 144mm; what years was it used?
10-28-15, 01:28 PM
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Thank you; the mechanic at my LBS translated the model name for me.
If anyone has a need for the 151mm bcd pantographed sprocket let me know; I wouldn't mind trading for a nice set of age appropriate Campagnolo record pedals and tie clips.
If anyone has a need for the 151mm bcd pantographed sprocket let me know; I wouldn't mind trading for a nice set of age appropriate Campagnolo record pedals and tie clips.
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I'm a little disappointed, I found small cracks (one on each side) where the crank arm meets the spider. Can this live like this with use or is this crank a display only ?
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I may try to address the crack in the crankset but until then I swapped the ring gear onto the bike. I'm very happy with the Pantographed ring gear.
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If you file away material in that area, you might be able to make it to the other end of the crack and stop the crank from breaking: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...s-cracked.html
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Very nice Bianchi.
+1 re the filing of the crank arms to help stop the cracking.
You probably know this little fact - The Belgian team raced on Bianchi Campione del Mondo's like yours.
+1 re the filing of the crank arms to help stop the cracking.
You probably know this little fact - The Belgian team raced on Bianchi Campione del Mondo's like yours.
11-02-15, 05:16 AM
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I have a 1981 Bianchi Campione del Mondo. According to Bianchi the model was designed for the Belgian National Amateur Team. They used a mishmash a Campy components: Gran Sport cranks, brakes, pedals, hubs, and headset; Nuovo Record derailleurs and shift levers; Super Record brake levers.
The Gran Sport or Nuovo Record seatposts were pantographed along with the the 3TTT Record stems. The large chainrings were pantographed Super Record while the 42T inner ring was a standard Gran Sport (my large ring isn't pantographed).
The early 80 frames were Columbus "Tretubi" meaning that the 3 main tubes were butted Columbus. In the case of my bike, the main tubes are Columbus SL while the forks and stays are most likely made of Falck tubing.
CORRECTION
According to this 1982 Bianchi spec sheet, the main tubes are probably Columbus SL tubing. The forks and stays are made of Columbus Aelle tubing which are seamless Manganese Steel not Chrome-Moly alloy. Aelle forks and stays have slightly thicker walls than Columbus SL tubes.
https://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g...geViewsIndex=1
The frame has Campy dropouts plus the same pantographed fork crown and seat stay caps used on the higher Reparto Corse bikes.
Numbers stamped into the right side of the seat lug - 1.M indicaties 1981. Serial number is on the left side.
Page from the 1981 Bianchi catalog
1983 Bianchi catalog - Campione del Mondo seems to have the same specs as the 1981 and the bikes were available in Celeste or black.Your 1982 probably had the same specs
My Flickr album showing My 1981 Bianchi Campione del Mondo. A number of the components were updated by a previous owner.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/282672...57623655271692
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The Gran Sport or Nuovo Record seatposts were pantographed along with the the 3TTT Record stems. The large chainrings were pantographed Super Record while the 42T inner ring was a standard Gran Sport (my large ring isn't pantographed).
The early 80 frames were Columbus "Tretubi" meaning that the 3 main tubes were butted Columbus. In the case of my bike, the main tubes are Columbus SL while the forks and stays are most likely made of Falck tubing.
CORRECTION
According to this 1982 Bianchi spec sheet, the main tubes are probably Columbus SL tubing. The forks and stays are made of Columbus Aelle tubing which are seamless Manganese Steel not Chrome-Moly alloy. Aelle forks and stays have slightly thicker walls than Columbus SL tubes.
https://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g...geViewsIndex=1
The frame has Campy dropouts plus the same pantographed fork crown and seat stay caps used on the higher Reparto Corse bikes.
Numbers stamped into the right side of the seat lug - 1.M indicaties 1981. Serial number is on the left side.
Page from the 1981 Bianchi catalog
1983 Bianchi catalog - Campione del Mondo seems to have the same specs as the 1981 and the bikes were available in Celeste or black.Your 1982 probably had the same specs
My Flickr album showing My 1981 Bianchi Campione del Mondo. A number of the components were updated by a previous owner.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/282672...57623655271692
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Thank you for the information
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Nice bike.
You can fix that crank. Or at least, remove the crack that's starting and hopefully keep the crank from failing.
Do you have any jeweler's files? If not, go to the hardware store and buy a 1/8 or 3/16 inch round chain saw file,
And gently round over that sharp edge where the crank arm meets the spider. Look under magnification so you go deep enough to remove the crack, but no deeper. Best done with the crank removed from the bike and the rings removed from the crank.
You can fix that crank. Or at least, remove the crack that's starting and hopefully keep the crank from failing.
Do you have any jeweler's files? If not, go to the hardware store and buy a 1/8 or 3/16 inch round chain saw file,
And gently round over that sharp edge where the crank arm meets the spider. Look under magnification so you go deep enough to remove the crack, but no deeper. Best done with the crank removed from the bike and the rings removed from the crank.
11-02-15, 10:45 AM
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1.M serial number, tre tubi frame w/ panto B on stay caps and fork crown, decal style as on petritl's frame (mine are gold over "anthracite"/charcoal, rather than dark red over "celeste"), under-BB shift cable routing
Bianchi-labled TTT stem, NR derailleurs, Ofmega CX crankset, Modolo Speedy brakeset, fluted Campag. seatpost, Campag. GS pedals, Regina America 6-speed freewheel, 36-hold Ofmega low flange hubs, clincher tires on unlabeled (Nisi?) rims.
I have moved the original wheelset to the 1959 Capo and replaced it with Campag. GS low-flange hubs with 32-hole Campag. Omega rims, and I have replaced the brake calipers with Campags. and the brake handles with Shimano aeros, which fit my hands properly. This is still my all-time favorite fair weather fun-to-ride bicycle. Mine (55cm C-T) weighs just about exactly 10kg., which was a pretty typical weight for a good road bike of that era.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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You can probably settle once and for all the identity of my Bianchi, which I have been told is a 1981 Campione d' Italia.
1.M serial number, tre tubi frame w/ panto B on stay caps and fork crown, decal style as on petritl's frame (mine are gold over "anthracite"/charcoal, rather than dark red over "celeste"), under-BB shift cable routing
Bianchi-labled TTT stem, NR derailleurs, Ofmega CX crankset, Modolo Speedy brakeset, fluted Campag. seatpost, Campag. GS pedals, Regina America 6-speed freewheel, 36-hold Ofmega low flange hubs, clincher tires on unlabeled (Nisi?) rims.
I have moved the original wheelset to the 1959 Capo and replaced it with Campag. GS low-flange hubs with 32-hole Campag. Omega rims, and I have replaced the brake calipers with Campags. and the brake handles with Shimano aeros, which fit my hands properly. This is still my all-time favorite fair weather fun-to-ride bicycle. Mine (55cm C-T) weighs just about exactly 10kg., which was a pretty typical weight for a good road bike of that era.
1.M serial number, tre tubi frame w/ panto B on stay caps and fork crown, decal style as on petritl's frame (mine are gold over "anthracite"/charcoal, rather than dark red over "celeste"), under-BB shift cable routing
Bianchi-labled TTT stem, NR derailleurs, Ofmega CX crankset, Modolo Speedy brakeset, fluted Campag. seatpost, Campag. GS pedals, Regina America 6-speed freewheel, 36-hold Ofmega low flange hubs, clincher tires on unlabeled (Nisi?) rims.
I have moved the original wheelset to the 1959 Capo and replaced it with Campag. GS low-flange hubs with 32-hole Campag. Omega rims, and I have replaced the brake calipers with Campags. and the brake handles with Shimano aeros, which fit my hands properly. This is still my all-time favorite fair weather fun-to-ride bicycle. Mine (55cm C-T) weighs just about exactly 10kg., which was a pretty typical weight for a good road bike of that era.
The 1981 Campione D'Italia came with Modolo Speedy brakes, Ofmega CX cranks and Ofmega Competition hubs. The Campione del Mondo bikes had all campy components. Everything else is the same including the frames.
This link shows the 1982 Bianchi catalog spec sheet:
Bianchi catalog (1982)
The only difference is that the Campione D'Italia model was listed as available in white or Celeste - yours is black which would be a common production variation: Specifications subject to change without notice.
"1.M serial number" is probably the date of manufacture not the serial number: 1 = 1981 and M = either Marzo (March) or Maggio (May). the serial number is on the other side of the seat lug (that's the best guess from all the Biachianistas)...
Campione del Mono bikes "should" have a decal like this on the left chainstay. Your Campione D'Italia bike may have a similar decal.
The 1982 spec sheet lists the details for Columbus Tretubi tubing: 3 main tubes - probably SL with Columbus Aelle forks and stays. I've never seen this before!
Aelle tubing were made from seamless manganese steel - like Tange Mangaloy. It was about 2/3rds the strength of the chrome-moly steel used in Columbus SL and SP tubing. The wall thickness on the forks and stays was slightly thicker that on SL tubes.
My Campione del Mondo is a wonderful handling and riding bike. It ranks among my top 10 favorites.
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The color thing has always thrown me, since I had previously read about white being the only alternative to celeste for the C.d'I. To pick a nit, mine is not black, but what my artist wife describes as metallic "Ralph Lauren brown." I think the original sales slip listed "charcoal," which I have also seen referred to as "anthracite."
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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[QUOTE=petritl;18276580]2.B 368
I have the 2.B 369. Painted black with the celeste green underneath the black.
I have the 2.B 369. Painted black with the celeste green underneath the black.