MoAlpha

To be honest, I have met a few bad ones too, like the sadistic one who withheld the patients' bad potassium levels until attending rounds in the cardiac care unit when I was an intern, but I have disliked far more physicians.

Around here, everyone's an amateur lawyer. We go around saying stuff like "dispositive" and "tabula in naufragio" in daily conversation.

livedarklions

I've always liked "eggshell skull" because it sounds weirdly medical.

indyfabz

"The motorist should be charged with premediated murder!" is one of my favorites.

livedarklions

There's some "it's the bicyclist's fault" all the time people as well. I think we could both predict a few poster's position on who's at fault in any crash without knowing any of the facts.

There's also a couple who just bend over backwards to blame the woman, whether she's driving, riding or walking.

MoAlpha

Ever see the Twitter account ,"Bad Legal Takes?" I understand about a third of it, but it's clear people have very wrong ideas about the law.

kingston 

I lot of long distance cyclists I know use ENDUROLYTESDoesn't seem like it would be too hard to mix up something similar for a lot less than 40¢ a dose. I prefer Fritos or a pickle.

Chinghis

There ya go - Medieval Gatorade. There are other, more precise recipes, but you get the idea. Vinegar for the electrolytes, mint for taste. I've also made it with honey, I think.

MoAlpha

Vinegar may have a trace amounts of minerals, but it is not a source of electrolytes,

Chinghis

It is a weak electrolyte. Works for me.

UniChris

Not the main biologically useful ones. Works in a battery though.

What the recipe is missing is the sodium and potassium.

Of course in actual medieval times they'd probably have made a weak ale.

Metieval

Gatorade has LOADS of sugar.
"One 20-ounce Gatorade contains a whopping 34 grams of sugar, 36 grams of carbohydrates and almost 150 calories. "

People are addicted to their sugar though.

Maybe it isn't about money?

Metieval

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...0?ie=UTF8&th=1

or from Swansons, or vitamin shoppe, or Lucky vitamin, or your local healthfood store.

Sy Reene

If you use the powder, nothing forces you use full strength recipe. Further up in this thread you'll find mine. As a recipe starter, I don't see anything wrong with using gatorade as one ingredient.

I never said it was about the money; simply disputing the claim that gatorade costs $1 a bottle.

UniChris

You say that like it's a bad thing...

For something to quaff on an ordinary sedentary day, of course, it is.

But of the for intended purpose, the sugar is actually vital - you don't fully absorb electrolytes without it. Gatorade is not (and is not represented to be) the same formula as oral rehydration salts, but the ideas are not unrelated. Gatorade is relatively low on electrolytes compared to the sugar, so I spike it with a nuun tablet or other sources. But as it's its likely going to stay down in those behind-the-curve circumstances where just water would make you hurl.

And the in the cycling context when people are shooting gels and gobbling other carbs, that sugar fits right in.

I wouldn't bother on a shorter or off season ride though. If I'm out all day in summer, my typical progression is water, water with nuun, gatorade with nuun, water with nuun, just water as the sun comes up and then goes back down. Early or late in the season when not sweating as much that typically doesn't get beyond the first or second step,

Metieval

In the context of replies, I was replying to the context of flavoring. It was no longer about hydration at that point.

Context! more beneficial that ingesting processed and refined sugars.

Clipped_in

I'll just leave these right here:

wolfchild

Hard working body needs calories...Some of my homemade drinks which I bring on my rides have over 400 calories per serving. My homemade energy bars have about 450 calories per serving...I can easily ingest over 1000 calories on a 4-5 hour ride.

Senrab62 

Huh? No it doesn't keep us healthy.

HerrKaLeun

I should have included sarcasm marks...

I responded to someone claiming food alon gives us all the minerals we need. That is technically true if we consume naturally grown food that was't bread for other properties (i.e. sweet taste, stickiness for backing etc.). that also assumes we drink natural water with more minerals. Most of today's food is altered for other properties and not for nutrients. For example a modern tomato is sweet, wild tomatoes are not. And the soils get poorer and poorer due to extremely high yields of mono-cultures. Also people drink unnatural water (filtered, often distilled) with way fewer minerals than our ancestors had. (i realize drinking today's surface water untreated wouldn't be healthy either). So our modern diet isn't necessarily great for minerals. And that is before we talk about fastfood and cookies.

wolfchild

I am the same way. I have eaten cheeseburgers, pizza, milkshakes and all kinds of other heavy stuff on my longer rides and never had a problem with my digestion. I function best on "calorie dense real foods"....Energy gels, Gatorade , supplements and other forms of pure sugar just doesn't work for me and I get no energy from eating any of that crap. I need real food which has fats, protein and carbs and then I am all good. I prefer to bring my homemade stuff on my rides but sometimes I will stop and buy something along the way...I don't recommend that other people follow my style of eating, most people would have a gut explosion if they tried eating what I eat.

wolfchild

Food alone is enough to give your body all the nutrients it needs, there is no need for any supplements...and no it doesn't have to be naturally grown and organic. Regular food purchased fresh at your local grocery store and prepared at home is all that your body needs. There is also no need to eat a perfectly balanced diet every single day, human body is a lot smarter than that.

HerrKaLeun

you don't use salt (sodium) and none is added in the food you eat? That must mean you only eat unprocessed food.

i eat mainly unprocessed food (well, i cut and cook food, which is processing too). i don't know if i really need it, but my supplements I add in tiny amounts are lite-salt (sodium/potassium), magnesium and kelp (for iodide). i just mix it in some regular food I make.

livedarklions

None of this assertion has any basis in fact. If you feel like this stuff works for you, fine. But when you assert other people need to, I call bs.

HerrKaLeun

There is a chance the supplements are not needed. Especially since I eat vegetables, and liver etc. But since all the food I eat comes without salt, I feel at least salt is needed. Even animals in nature crave salt...

At least I buy the supplements the cheapest way and not in magic bottles.

Flip Flop Rider

the one linked is simply salt tablets