Laced bike shoes or not?
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Laced bike shoes or not?
I recently got my first "real" roadbike this past weekend. Prior to that I had been riding a hybrid bike that I had put cages onto. I put the cages onto my new bike - but I really want to get pedals / clip in shoes. A buddy gave me his old set of clip in pedals that he no longer uses - Shimano SPD system - they are an inexpensive pedal, PD-R540 - but they will be fine for me to at least try it. I have the cleats too.. I just need shoes.
I went to the local bike shop and looked at the shoes - they were either Velcro, Velcro with ratcheting clamp on the top, or BOA system shoes. none had laces. From my snowboarding experience - I know both of these systems tent do create pinching spots - as you only have 2-3 real spots whre the boot/shoe is grabbing you..whereas with laces - ti's more of a pain to lace them up - especially on a snowboard - but once ou get them on - they seemed more comfy.
so I found a handful of bike shoes that have laces. I read they are supposed to be more comfortable - and it would makes sense - as the lacing system spreads the load evenly out over your foot..much like regular shoes... maybe you can't get them as brutally tight if you are going to need them clamped onto yoru foot?
having never used clip in shoes - I'm curious what you all think about lace up bike shoes vs the clamping / BOA system ones?
prices are relatively similar regardless which system I get. just thought i'd see what you all think - since I am new to this there are likely advantages / disadvantages to these options that I am overlooking?
thanks.
I went to the local bike shop and looked at the shoes - they were either Velcro, Velcro with ratcheting clamp on the top, or BOA system shoes. none had laces. From my snowboarding experience - I know both of these systems tent do create pinching spots - as you only have 2-3 real spots whre the boot/shoe is grabbing you..whereas with laces - ti's more of a pain to lace them up - especially on a snowboard - but once ou get them on - they seemed more comfy.
so I found a handful of bike shoes that have laces. I read they are supposed to be more comfortable - and it would makes sense - as the lacing system spreads the load evenly out over your foot..much like regular shoes... maybe you can't get them as brutally tight if you are going to need them clamped onto yoru foot?
having never used clip in shoes - I'm curious what you all think about lace up bike shoes vs the clamping / BOA system ones?
prices are relatively similar regardless which system I get. just thought i'd see what you all think - since I am new to this there are likely advantages / disadvantages to these options that I am overlooking?
thanks.
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Haven't tried the wire system but between laces and velcro with ratchets, I'll take the latter. Laces are a pita compared to the easily slipped into and out of, and easily adjusted velcro with ratchets. Laces take time, each time to untie, open up, slip in, readjust each lace hole that represents a friction/wear spot, tie them down and hope they don't come untied while riding. I can see the vintage appeal, if riding a vintage bike, but given choice, I find the velcro with ratchets better all around between those 2 systems, even if they only get you out on the bike little faster. YMMV.
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Purists will balk but I replaced my traditional laces with elastic laces with a plastic locking mechanism. I keep them snug enough to prevent excessive foot movement in the shoes but I can still slip the shoe on and off with a bit of effort. I was worried that the shoes would come off too easily but this hasn't been the case even with some pretty rough MTB and gravel grinding (BTW, I wear SPD MTB shoes even on my road bike as I like walkable shoes when I'm off the bike).
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and hope they don't come untied while riding.
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I have an old pair of laced SPD shoes and adore them, but they are aging and need to be replaced. I despise Velcro, it's invariably the first thing to wear out on anything I own, but sadly 80% of the cycling shoe options seem to be Velcro .
I'm guessing laces tend to get caught in chainrings so many don't like them.
I'm guessing laces tend to get caught in chainrings so many don't like them.
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I am not that thrilled about Velcro.... I know how it wears out... BOA systems are pretty good.... I have noticed some of the higher end shoes are ALL BOA..no Velcro... but they are pricey.
I wondered if maybe lace up shoes would give the comfort / great fit like a boa system shoe but you could get them cheaper? although I did see some lace up shoes that are actually still pretty pricey... maybe the retro thing is coming back and they are just marketing it..but it's not really as good as BOA...
I wondered if maybe lace up shoes would give the comfort / great fit like a boa system shoe but you could get them cheaper? although I did see some lace up shoes that are actually still pretty pricey... maybe the retro thing is coming back and they are just marketing it..but it's not really as good as BOA...
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I've got laces. Normal looking shoes were important to me. They are a MTB shoe, seems to be more common with them. They are plenty comfy, I occasionally wear them around even when not biking.
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Gonna have to try them on for yourself and see what you prefer. Everyone is different. I prefer boa, then ratchet and velcro, and laces last. I like to be able to reach down when riding and tighten up or loosen up as needed and I like the easy on easy off too. Laces on my mtb shoes just because I don't ride off road as much or as far as on the road so it was less important to me.
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Having to use double knots is just another reason why for me velcro with ratchets are better because they're just easier. Ever struggle with a tangled double knot?
Like I said..."YMMV".
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My shoes have 2 lower velcro straps, then a buckle. I leave the velcro loose at my toes, and can make the buckle tight, so my foot is secure.
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I still wear my old leather Diadora lace ups. Never had a need to adjust them while riding, just don't lace them super tight. They stretch just enough when your feet swell. Velcro straps don't stretch.
Bontrager Classique are some nice ones.
Bontrager Classique are some nice ones.
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I can't count how many times I got my laces caught in my chainring. Good riddance to laces. I have had Velcro and buckles, and will take either of them over laces.
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BOA often doesn't work for people with high arches.
The highest point of the arch gets all the pressure from the BOA wires and there is no way to selectively loosen. It can be very uncomfortable.
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The highest point of the arch gets all the pressure from the BOA wires and there is no way to selectively loosen. It can be very uncomfortable.
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My first two pairs of cycling shoes had laces, and I had no problems with laces at all. Laced shoes are the easiest to make comfortable. My current pair is full-carbon sole, and the options for laces + CF sole is next to nothing, so I'm now on double BOA. I must say, for a lazy person such as myself, it's tough to beat BOA. Easy on, easy off.
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I do a ton of hiking. My boots have laces. Guess what--my feet still hurt a lot on long hikes/backpacking, etc. The fact that I can "selectively" loosen/tighten my laces often seems to be of ephemeral--if not chimerical--benefit to me once my feet start hurting.
To ride, is to suffer. That's a fact.
To ride, is to suffer. That's a fact.
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I do a ton of hiking. My boots have laces. Guess what--my feet still hurt a lot on long hikes/backpacking, etc. The fact that I can "selectively" loosen/tighten my laces often seems to be of ephemeral--if not chimerical--benefit to me once my feet start hurting.
To ride, is to suffer. That's a fact.
To ride, is to suffer. That's a fact.
Related, if your feet hurt at all after a bike ride, you're doing something really wrong.
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To ride is to suffer. That's a fact. <--- tongue in cheek; but, undeniably, with a kernel of truth!
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I HAVE to buy laced shoes. Cycling shoes for some stupid reason are way to narrow. Therefore I buy lace up shoes so that I can leave the laces loose at the bottom so they will open up around my wide foot and high instep.
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Shoe width is important, of course. Having grown up in the country I always loved cowboy boots but would never wear them because I always thought they were uncomfortable (mostly, too narrow). Then I met this old cowboy who recommended that I buy them one of two sizes smaller in length and one or two sizes wider! I thought he was crazy; but, hey--it works!
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My bike specific shoes have a little loop to shove the laces through, keeps them in place, never once had them come loose. When I ride with street shoes, I just tie them to the outsole, and if the tag ends are long (most of mine aren't), just tuck them into the side of the shoe.
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I agree that many cycling shoes tend to be too narrow (especially the Italian brands). I suppose laces are a way to mitigate bad fit at its core. This is a problem in buying regular shoes as well; it is just cheaper to stock shoes in one width rather than to carry the panoply of sizes that would actually make prospective customers more comfortable overall.
Shoe width is important, of course. Having grown up in the country I always loved cowboy boots but would never wear them because I always thought they were uncomfortable (mostly, too narrow). Then I met this old cowboy who recommended that I buy them one of two sizes smaller in length and one or two sizes wider! I thought he was crazy; but, hey--it works!
Shoe width is important, of course. Having grown up in the country I always loved cowboy boots but would never wear them because I always thought they were uncomfortable (mostly, too narrow). Then I met this old cowboy who recommended that I buy them one of two sizes smaller in length and one or two sizes wider! I thought he was crazy; but, hey--it works!
Their attitude is kind of like old Henry Ford that said you can have any color car you want so long as it is black!!!!
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Definitely go for laces. It's the current emerging trend and it won't be stopping any time soon.
Pros: Look better, work better, look better
Cons: -
Pros: Look better, work better, look better
Cons: -
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Everybody knows whats good for everyone else.
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I like it. Current Emerging Trend. Maybe we should adopt this in its acronymic form and add it to our lexicon: CET!
So, BOA is not CET?