What To Do With Fixed Gear Riders Who Refuse to Put Brakes on Their Bikes?
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I don't really see it as a braking issue. I push longboards (big skatebord) around town at 7mph average. I have to foot brake like the Flintstones with one foot. Or just step off of the thing. No problems using due caution. It's the people who ride bikes like idiots AND only have rear wheel braking who cause the trouble. I could have all of the fixie skills in the world but I need two brakes that really work, or I would have to temper my riding style. Two good brakes really opens the door to taking lots of chances, knowing the danged bike is really going to stop, not skid. On wet streets I chill out.
Yes, I have seen many alleycat race videos where fixed riders show some amazing control at high speeds. Tough to make laws that pertain to mortals and super heroes the same.
Yes, I have seen many alleycat race videos where fixed riders show some amazing control at high speeds. Tough to make laws that pertain to mortals and super heroes the same.
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I volunteer weekly at a high-throughput bike Co-op on a west coast city that used to be a ground zero for the fixie-thing during the '00s. Almost every steel-framed vintage road bike in a 3 million large metro area was absorbed by this fad - to feed conversions.
Whatever: the amount of fixies we see now is dramatically dropped off. Maybe it is a Darwinian thing; my theory is the folks who have a deep-seated need to be 'different' or 'counterculture' have moved on. These are folks that define themselves as being unique from the norm (for whatever odd psychological reason), so of course when everyone was on a fixie, and then later when you could buy a $200 'fixie' at X*Mart, the whole trend imploded.
A lot of these folks are now on longboards, weaving through pedestrians on sidewalks, and reeking havoc in busy bike lanes. Or urban cruising on smooth pavement on 50-pound full-suspension mountain bikes with 3" knobby tires. So whatever is the most dangerous and inefficient solution - go figure.
Whatever: the amount of fixies we see now is dramatically dropped off. Maybe it is a Darwinian thing; my theory is the folks who have a deep-seated need to be 'different' or 'counterculture' have moved on. These are folks that define themselves as being unique from the norm (for whatever odd psychological reason), so of course when everyone was on a fixie, and then later when you could buy a $200 'fixie' at X*Mart, the whole trend imploded.
A lot of these folks are now on longboards, weaving through pedestrians on sidewalks, and reeking havoc in busy bike lanes. Or urban cruising on smooth pavement on 50-pound full-suspension mountain bikes with 3" knobby tires. So whatever is the most dangerous and inefficient solution - go figure.
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I just find old bikes like and those tend to have a spot for a tank. But I trick them out, all the accessories that were available from the maker or I Rat a bit. I was born with an antique mind, mom found it in a secondhand store.
I like coaster brakes, no cables to snap.
I like coaster brakes, no cables to snap.
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Rider skill trumps equipment almost every time.
Sure there are extreme examples to the contrary, even still, if this became a real menace, it would eventually self correct.
Poorly skilled riders and motorists usually have the odds stacked against them.
With experience, most people can take precautions to avoid unskilled and/or under equipped road users.
I've never seen a fixed gear rider crash, a few close calls, compared to normal road hazards I face, its insignificant.
Sure there are extreme examples to the contrary, even still, if this became a real menace, it would eventually self correct.
Poorly skilled riders and motorists usually have the odds stacked against them.
With experience, most people can take precautions to avoid unskilled and/or under equipped road users.
I've never seen a fixed gear rider crash, a few close calls, compared to normal road hazards I face, its insignificant.
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As an "old fart" who rides fixed gear all the time, I'm tempted to point out that fixed gear WITH brakes is just a more flexible configuration that includes fixed gear NO brakes. Just don't use your brakes and you've got it. But I don't really care if some other adult wants to ride with no brakes.
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As an "old fart" who rides fixed gear all the time, I'm tempted to point out that fixed gear WITH brakes is just a more flexible configuration that includes fixed gear NO brakes. Just don't use your brakes and you've got it. But I don't really care if some other adult wants to ride with no brakes.
Eventually, this fixie thing became a style that non-messengers copied, and this is when most of the trouble and controversy started about "no" brakes. Amateurs mis-using a tool designed for a very specific set of circumstances by professionals.
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You likely know that riding fixed in traffic was a bike messenger's answer to thieves and cost overhead. A "track bike" is the simplest possible machine with only drive-train and tires to wear out. Also less stuff to get stripped off of a bike as well. For the few parts they have, messengers would epoxy a ball bearing inside the head of each hex bolt to prevent easy access with a multi tool to stems, handlebars, pedals, etc.
Eventually, this fixie thing became a style that non-messengers copied, and this is when most of the trouble and controversy started about "no" brakes. Amateurs mis-using a tool.
Eventually, this fixie thing became a style that non-messengers copied, and this is when most of the trouble and controversy started about "no" brakes. Amateurs mis-using a tool.