Has Anyone Put Together a Counterfeit Bicycle i.e. Intentionally incorrect decals?
08-25-16, 02:46 PM
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My 1987 Bianchi I am almost positive came with a chrome fork. They replaced the fork with the frame in 1989 when I cracked the frame near the FD braze-on. The new fork does not have the chrome, and I think I remember being slightly annoyed (but after waiting a year for a replacement when my bike frame cracked, my girlfriend dumped me, and it looked like my PhD thesis project would never work, that was the least of my concerns).
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In the early 90's , I stripped the paint off my Bridgestone MTB (I know, I know, --- but they weren't "cult classics" then ) -- I wanted to put a fade paint job on it reminiscent of the Kleins that I admired at the time
I couldn't find any Bridgestone decals, so I just used some Marin decals I had
-- I felt like it was a lateral move and didn't really matter that much,
I couldn't find any Bridgestone decals, so I just used some Marin decals I had
-- I felt like it was a lateral move and didn't really matter that much,
08-25-16, 04:47 PM
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Yes but can't you download the decals and print them on decal paper? I have several sheets of Peugeot decals.
08-25-16, 06:53 PM
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A coincidence but, I am currently working with another favorite with that name, a wood called African Padauk, sometimes known as vermillion because of the vibrant color, building a custom headboard for our new bed.
08-26-16, 10:25 AM
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It is rather funny though as Ocana rode non- Motobecane, but badged as such (including Speedwell ti).
As for this frame, stamped into a tube are the numbers 888 for Vitus 888, the one decal that I'd like to have. The bottom bracket has all sorts of stampings, perhaps for the production line, ahemm quality control.... I don't know. Frame and fork was lighter than my 531 Le Champion.... go figure.
Primarily for one of the granddaughters yet I'll occasionally ride this bike. I'm cramped fitting to it but if my legs feel happy, have challenged a few on group rides. Its a hoot during the times when pulling a train of modern bikes. Respectable rider, nothing to hype about though. Fun handling riding on NOS cheapo earlier Conti Giro's tubulars.
FYI. Started out as a $35 find. Trade bait and or sold some of the original bits (Shimano Arabesque derailleurs, wheels, etc.). Went digging through the parts boxes, salvaged rough looking Campy NR in the shift department, hubs, seat post. Kept and cleaned up the Moto marked brakes, crank and bars. Near zero cost.
I find if the bikes are attractive or flashy, the youngsters gravitate to them. My goal is to get them acclimated to cycling with hints of riding in vintage events, learn something different, maybe capture interest in a more advanced bike and or show care for the past. I think the BiC tribute has it. At worst, if it gets some road rash or stolen, its no biggie either.
In the pipeline is another tribute build. For another granddaughter, its a small framed Billato made early LeMond. Getting the wild paint scheme and team Z livery, traits of G.L. with the squirrelly Scott Drop-in bars. Again, done on absurd low budget. If one has the time, any of this stuff can be done for near cost of a big box store bike. To me, thats satisfying.
08-26-16, 10:35 AM
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Mid 80s A big Appliance store in Daly City gave a "free" bike when you bought a New Fridge Washer, dryer TV, etc.
A the time I had a Specialized Expedition Touring Bike, they happened to use the same grey Paint color.
Shop I Worked for got a lot of The PRC free bikes in for tuneups.. eventually My Touring bike had the stickers
off the "Firenze" bikes ..
Never made it to Florence, Italy , so I never had to explain The Joke to them..
./.
A the time I had a Specialized Expedition Touring Bike, they happened to use the same grey Paint color.
Shop I Worked for got a lot of The PRC free bikes in for tuneups.. eventually My Touring bike had the stickers
off the "Firenze" bikes ..
Never made it to Florence, Italy , so I never had to explain The Joke to them..
./.
08-26-16, 02:30 PM
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It is rather funny though as Ocana rode non- Motobecane, but badged as such (including Speedwell ti).
As for this frame, stamped into a tube are the numbers 888 for Vitus 888, the one decal that I'd like to have. The bottom bracket has all sorts of stampings, perhaps for the production line, ahemm quality control.... I don't know. Frame and fork was lighter than my 531 Le Champion.... go figure.
Primarily for one of the granddaughters yet I'll occasionally ride this bike. I'm cramped fitting to it but if my legs feel happy, have challenged a few on group rides. Its a hoot during the times when pulling a train of modern bikes. Respectable rider, nothing to hype about though. Fun handling riding on NOS cheapo earlier Conti Giro's tubulars.
FYI. Started out as a $35 find. Trade bait and or sold some of the original bits (Shimano Arabesque derailleurs, wheels, etc.). Went digging through the parts boxes, salvaged rough looking Campy NR in the shift department, hubs, seat post. Kept and cleaned up the Moto marked brakes, crank and bars. Near zero cost.
I find if the bikes are attractive or flashy, the youngsters gravitate to them. My goal is to get them acclimated to cycling with hints of riding in vintage events, learn something different, maybe capture interest in a more advanced bike and or show care for the past. I think the BiC tribute has it. At worst, if it gets some road rash or stolen, its no biggie either.
In the pipeline is another tribute build. For another granddaughter, its a small framed Billato made early LeMond. Getting the wild paint scheme and team Z livery, traits of G.L. with the squirrelly Scott Drop-in bars. Again, done on absurd low budget. If one has the time, any of this stuff can be done for near cost of a big box store bike. To me, thats satisfying.
As for this frame, stamped into a tube are the numbers 888 for Vitus 888, the one decal that I'd like to have. The bottom bracket has all sorts of stampings, perhaps for the production line, ahemm quality control.... I don't know. Frame and fork was lighter than my 531 Le Champion.... go figure.
Primarily for one of the granddaughters yet I'll occasionally ride this bike. I'm cramped fitting to it but if my legs feel happy, have challenged a few on group rides. Its a hoot during the times when pulling a train of modern bikes. Respectable rider, nothing to hype about though. Fun handling riding on NOS cheapo earlier Conti Giro's tubulars.
FYI. Started out as a $35 find. Trade bait and or sold some of the original bits (Shimano Arabesque derailleurs, wheels, etc.). Went digging through the parts boxes, salvaged rough looking Campy NR in the shift department, hubs, seat post. Kept and cleaned up the Moto marked brakes, crank and bars. Near zero cost.
I find if the bikes are attractive or flashy, the youngsters gravitate to them. My goal is to get them acclimated to cycling with hints of riding in vintage events, learn something different, maybe capture interest in a more advanced bike and or show care for the past. I think the BiC tribute has it. At worst, if it gets some road rash or stolen, its no biggie either.
In the pipeline is another tribute build. For another granddaughter, its a small framed Billato made early LeMond. Getting the wild paint scheme and team Z livery, traits of G.L. with the squirrelly Scott Drop-in bars. Again, done on absurd low budget. If one has the time, any of this stuff can be done for near cost of a big box store bike. To me, thats satisfying.
Frequent Rene Herse seller had one for auction on everyone's "favorite" site.
$1,500… no takers twice.
$1,200… nope.
Missed it when it was relisted for $1,000. So it goes!
08-26-16, 03:17 PM
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I created decals using my C&V User ID. I was inspired by Lascauxcaveman's Velo Cheapo.
I'll put them on my late 80's Performance Vitesse after I color sand the paint.
Tyler.Fred decals.jpg
I'll put them on my late 80's Performance Vitesse after I color sand the paint.
Tyler.Fred decals.jpg
08-26-16, 05:04 PM
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I don't think I would intentionally re-badge an off-brand bike to something else (other than maybe a personal label).
Maybe badging an unlabelled bike that seemed to match the target make... best guess. Even with that, I'd be very careful/conservative.
As far as the Bianchi project, I would have less qualms about choosing Bianchi decals & finish to meet your needs, and putting them on a different model Bianchi. You can get it chromed if you wish. However, I'd still be careful about using incorrect model labels.
Maybe badging an unlabelled bike that seemed to match the target make... best guess. Even with that, I'd be very careful/conservative.
As far as the Bianchi project, I would have less qualms about choosing Bianchi decals & finish to meet your needs, and putting them on a different model Bianchi. You can get it chromed if you wish. However, I'd still be careful about using incorrect model labels.
08-27-16, 10:14 PM
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Interesting topic. I'm actually a Bianchi fan and looking for a Thrashed Mondiale frame, I've had an idea brewing for sometime and was just scouring the internet looking for one of these higher end vintage frames. If I were you, I would stay in the same brand of bikes instead of re-branding it. Keep the Bianchi the Bianchi and De rosa a De rosa. Its your bike have fun with it.
08-27-16, 10:28 PM
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In the early 90's , I stripped the paint off my Bridgestone MTB (I know, I know, --- but they weren't "cult classics" then ) -- I wanted to put a fade paint job on it reminiscent of the Kleins that I admired at the time
I couldn't find any Bridgestone decals, so I just used some Marin decals I had
-- I felt like it was a lateral move and didn't really matter that much,
I couldn't find any Bridgestone decals, so I just used some Marin decals I had
-- I felt like it was a lateral move and didn't really matter that much,
08-28-16, 03:54 AM
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Back in the mid 70's the Peugeot dealer a few blocks from our shop painted an old Huffy gas pipe bike white and put Peugeot decals on it.
They also put a GUARANTEED NOT MADE WITH REYNOLDS 531 sticker on it and used it as a shop bike for lunch runs and so on!
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They also put a GUARANTEED NOT MADE WITH REYNOLDS 531 sticker on it and used it as a shop bike for lunch runs and so on!
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08-28-16, 06:45 AM
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However, my "give a shoot" disappears as soon as it leaves my garage ---- As said, a midrange Bridgestone re-badged as a Marin (who also made very nice machines in that era) , but still with mid range componentry -- is just another $200 mountain bike in my eyes (basically, it wasn't an MB-1 or an MB-Zip
08-28-16, 07:07 AM
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I did build up a set of Campy hubs with new Sun rims, removed the garish Sun rim decals and replaced them with more subtle vintage Rigida decals.
I guess I could have left the rims plain.......
I guess I could have left the rims plain.......
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Hi folks
I've had the thought of putting together a counterfeit Bianchi. The reason is - I like the late 1980s mint celeste paint scheme and decals (the one with the line going through "Bianchi"). But I also want it to have a chrome fork and chrome rear triangle. Late 80s Bianchis weren't made this way (one chromed stay on the Mondiale, two chromed stays on the X4, neither came stock with a chromed fork).
So the thought has occurred for me to procure another bike (preferably from a lesser-known manufacturer, as I wouldn't want to do this with a De Rosa, Cinelli, Pinarello etc.) with chromed fork/triangle, repaint the middle, and apply the appropriate decals. And then make it my badazz rider.
Has anyone done anything like this?
I've had the thought of putting together a counterfeit Bianchi. The reason is - I like the late 1980s mint celeste paint scheme and decals (the one with the line going through "Bianchi"). But I also want it to have a chrome fork and chrome rear triangle. Late 80s Bianchis weren't made this way (one chromed stay on the Mondiale, two chromed stays on the X4, neither came stock with a chromed fork).
So the thought has occurred for me to procure another bike (preferably from a lesser-known manufacturer, as I wouldn't want to do this with a De Rosa, Cinelli, Pinarello etc.) with chromed fork/triangle, repaint the middle, and apply the appropriate decals. And then make it my badazz rider.
Has anyone done anything like this?
I know this is a late reply; but if you put one brand's decals on another maker's bike, then you are a fraud. Don't be a fraud.
07-02-19, 08:06 PM
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I know this is a late reply but there is nothing more pathetic than people who make these fake-marque bikes. If you label one bike maker as another, then you are a fraud. Either be proud of what you have, or work harder and make more money so you can afford the bike you want. Don't be a fraud, 'cause then you're just telling everyone that you're a liar and a loser.
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So why are you digging up old threads to post this? Late reply? yeah, several years too late. Seems to be a recurring theme with your criticizing, argumentative posts.
Geez, there are better ways to increase your post count and contribute positively here.
Geez, there are better ways to increase your post count and contribute positively here.
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another loser fraud.
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There could be some funny ones...
DeRossa
Chioch
Beeanchi (With some bumblers on the paint)
PooJoe
Or...Atilla...
DeRossa
Chioch
Beeanchi (With some bumblers on the paint)
PooJoe
Or...Atilla...
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