Johnypony

Hi,

I am looking for new entry level road bike and came across JAVA Siluro 2 (2018)

Frankly speaking the design is too sexy...
Kindly have a look at specs and suggest me if its a good starter road bike for someone who is looking to ride it 30-40 miles early morning for health and fitness, its pro's and cons.. either in design, components or company at large.
Thanks
Note: Currently I am riding a hybrid with rigid fork and 8x3 speed setup on 28mm tires.

Johnypony

Specifications

Chain KMC X9 SL
Crankset JAVA DECA Hollow-tech, 36-52T
Bottom Bracket JAVA DECA Hollow-tech Seal bearing
Rims DECA AL WHR42; 42mm deep, 23mm wide, CNC
Hubs DECA seal bearing, 4 bearing.
Spokes DT industry,Black Standard 2.0 SID020
Tires Kenda 700c /23c.
Weight About 9.5 Kg
Pedals JAVA DECA Seal Bearing.
Frame JAVA SILURO 2018, Aluminum Alloy 6061, Aero
Fork JAVA SILURO Full Carbon T1000
Handlebar JAVA DECA Aero, Composite, 31.8mm
Stem JAVA DECA ,28.6*31.8*110mm, -7 degree
Seatpost JAVA FUOCO Aero Pro Road. Alloy.
Saddle JAVA DECA Aero Pro Road .
Shifters Shimano ST-3000,18-SPEED
Front Derailleur Shimano ST-3000,2-SPEED
Rear Derailleur Shimano ST-3000,9-SPEED
Brakes Winzp Pro-road alloy.
Cassette Shimano ST-3000,12-28T, 9-speed

hokicake

I'm looking to get this bicycle too. Did you get it? What size? I'm 5'2 and have a 27in inseam and would order a 44cm which seems like the right size I think.

rubiksoval

It all looks very cheap and weird with cheap, heavy components and wheels.

I'd buy a used bike well before I bought that.

9 speed is over a decade and a half ago too, so couldn't get much more outdated.

Bah Humbug

Yeah that has "bad idea" written all over it.

hokicake

how do you figure? it's like 19lbs only. You call that heavy? are you comparing it to a carbon fiber bike? I have a trek 2800 or something with a step through frame thats so heavy prolly like 40 lbs and I want something lighter. Have you even seen all the outstanding reviews on this bike?

f4rrest

Reviews are often fake these days, unfortunately.

A used Allez would be better.

rubiksoval

9.5 kgs isn't 19 lbs.

I'd call that thing a complete tank, with zero of the durability qualities. I'd honestly be afraid to ride it over 5 mph.

rubiksoval

https://www.bikeforums.net/hybrid-bi...rid-cycle.html

For all the money you're dropping on these no-name Chinese junker bikes you could have actually bought a decent name-brand bike that won't fall apart after 17 minutes of serious riding.

Bah Humbug

It's a brand I've never heard of (and I've heard of most with any quality) that has a bunch of their own (rebranded) crappy components, including brakes I've never heard of. I'm sure there's a worse buy out there, but I'm having trouble thinking of it off the top of my head.

By all means, come asking for advice and ignore what you hear. It really won't bother me in the slightest.

WhyFi

When you can google a make/model and the manufacturer's website isn't on the first two pages of results, that's a wee bit of a red flag to me.

hokicake

This same frame is the one giant uses and rebrands as Liv and charges up the butt for. Comes from the same manufacturer too. I also had the option of getting mine repainted with a different logo on it but I didn't wanna cause it would have been an extra 3 weeks to wait before they shipped it.

Maelochs

Ummmmm .... Giant makes its own frames at its Giant-Merida factories,.Giant doesn't need to rebrand anything.

This is a cheap bike made in Malaysia. That is neither good or bad. It does explain why the company doesn't show up on Google---different languages and in some case, different alphabets.
Shimano has a factory there, too---maybe so no-shipping discounts?

The no-name parts are probably just what they'd be here---basic in-house designs of basic parts made with basic materiels.

I'd be a little uneasy about the aero seat post-- I have heard about a few companies who didn't get the clamping right, and it's not like you could by a replacement from a competitor,

Looks like ... just a normal entry-level mass-produced bike..

Winzip compression algorithm brakes?

kidshibuya

Lol you guys are so isolated, its hilarious.

Java is quite well known, and DECA also. Usually Java are known for carbon bikes though.

I cant speak to how they ride but Ive never hard of a Java frame failing. To me their only fault is in their awful styling, not a fan of them shoving their brand name on everything.

Cpinn3r

I'm so shocked how one sided the replies have been. If it's not a mainstream brand from North America / EU, than it's crap.

To the OP,

Depends what you plan to do with the bike. If you plan to just ride it and not race it, than it's a good entry level bike. I assume the price is under $500. At that price, it's not a bad gamble. It sort of reminds me of an Allez Sprint or a Propel.

firebird854

Hmmm, interesting, I was going to bash this at first considering it looks like a knockoff Allez Sprint, but realized the pricepoint is just less than $500. Still, at that price point there are some considerably better options, one example would be Nashbar's Sora bike:

https://www.bikenashbar.com/cycling/...d-bike-nb-sora At $499 it is much better specced and by a company with favorable return policies and warrenties if something were to happen.

Bah Humbug

After over a week of no activity, this thread gets two posts back-to-back within 35 minutes about how clueless and wrong we are. Interesting.

puma1552

Between this bike and the hybrid linked in that other post earlier in this thread, OP is looking at some weird bikes.

Get a used Giant/Specialized/Trek/Cannondale/Whatever...something people have heard of.

Johnypony

So if its not seen in US and Europe its weird bike?
Some people forgot more than 2/3 of world population lives in EAST
And some of the east manufacturers are worlds largest producers of some advance materials and OEM equipments, so I wont take them lightly, they might not have big name, but they are very much in game.

rubiksoval

Hey man, stop talking about it and just go buy the thing. You're not changing anyone's mind here about how awful that piece of crap is, so what's the point of regurgitating your previous nonsense?

No one cares.

puma1552