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Old 02-09-24, 10:24 AM
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my god you guys. 19 pages.
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So...almost thirty years ago? With 1,400 operational steam locomotives world-wide? What does your research tell you about what safety standards were breached then, and what's in place now?

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You're arguing against a point nobody's making, and ignoring the one we are making. Yes, steam locomotives can be handled safely! The vast majority of the time, they are. But to suggest that they're as safe as a diesel electric locomotive is nonsensical. And of course they're also ludicrously inefficient by comparison as well, which is why it only took about 20 years for steam to all but vanish from American railroads.

They're magnificent machines, though. While The Older Boy was still in his Train Phase, he and I flew up to Portland to ride one of UP's Steam Excursions, pulled by Challenger 3985. My god, that thing was amazing!
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Originally Posted by mschwett
my god you guys. 19 pages.
It's winter, and the weather has sucked for riding.
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It's winter, and the weather has sucked for riding.
… and retro grouches shrivel and die if they aren’t grouching.
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One not so minor difference between say steam and diesel locomotives and brifter vs friction DT shifters. The locomotive swap is seamless. Diesels do everything the steam ones did, just more safely and easily. (And burned a now more convenient fuel source.) Trains don't especially care what the locomotive is that pulls them.

By contrast, cassettes and FWs care very much what brifter is used to shift them. Actually, the real comparison would be track gauges. Get that wrong and the train is going nowhere. But friction shifters don't care! They don't care what brand you are running, what model, number of cogs, cog spacing ... Just - is there enough pull? YOU CAN DIG DEEP AND PULL OUT THAT 40 YEAR OLD WHEEL
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This thread has been circling the bowl for a while now.

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