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Old 06-21-19, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
Did you miss:
Why not just ride when practical and not make some big deal out of it when it isn't as will happen and "commit" yourself to being at work on time and getting the groceries home.
I didn't have a problem with that part of your post, just the part where you told him his proposed commitment was "hair-shirted nonsense". Harsh and judgemental words, I thought.
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Nope, just too real world, and certainly not part of the strident unrealistic LCF party-line to quote.

BTW: Where's your recommendation for the OP on who to get with in the Twin Cities for actual experience in the nitty gritty of commuter survival in his challenging local environment, or is the Real World not part of your role as self appointed LCF Monitor of Content and Self Righteous Indignation?
Enjoy wearing that Hair Shirt while sanctimoniously posting, I'll just get on with riding the bike as I choose to and post on LCF as I choose to also.

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I have no problem with you posting or commenting as you see fit, and I will do the same, including commenting on your posts and you are welcome to do the same.

In the real world I have more or less made a commitment not to drive to work, but I don't want to bike in the harshest conditions, so I take public transit about a third of the time. I end up driving to work about once a year, when there is some external factor, like my wife needs to go downtown and hates driving there so I go with her and then go on to work, or something like that. She's on her own driving home. Last year I think one time I took a cab home when I was sick.
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I didn't have a problem with that part of your post, just the part where you told him his proposed commitment was "hair-shirted nonsense". Harsh and judgemental words, I thought.I have no problem with you posting or commenting as you see fit, and I will do the same, including commenting on your posts and you are welcome to do the same.
We're good.

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Old 06-22-19, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by wipekitty View Post

I do, however, wonder why teenagers and young adults are resistant to giving other transportation methods a try, including cycling as well as walking and transit. I have observed the following among individuals in this demographic whom I personally know: driving without a license to destinations less than a mile away; missing school due to lack of a car (although several buses conveniently service the school); and running out of money for food in order to pay for Uber rides to destinations serviced by transit and/or less than a mile away. Again, I do not judge peoples' lifestyle choices, as I prefer they not judge mine. I simply find some choices odd.
Do you really wonder or do you not know what they think of the other methods of transportation? With all of the community groups I have attended and social functions I personally am not so mystified.
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Originally Posted by wipekitty View Post
I do, however, wonder why teenagers and young adults are resistant to giving other transportation methods a try, including cycling as well as walking and transit.

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Do you really wonder or do you not know what they think of the other methods of transportation? With all of the community groups I have attended and social functions I personally am not so mystified.
I suspect it is less a question of wondering or not knowing why teenagers and young folks (or anybody else) act the way they do, but rather just not approving of choices made that are different than those she would make.
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Old 06-24-19, 01:00 AM
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Wow, another excuse for butting in with pseudo-psychological twaddle, sanctimonious tut-tutting and failed mind reading by the self appointed LCF Politically Correct Thought Police.
Mercy. I've gotta save that one for somewhere, it's a masterpiece.
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No, I generally aim to not drive for short distances, take the bus or other transit when it is practical, and of course resume riding when my new bike shows up.

I have a car, it doesn't get used often. Though more this year as my bike was stolen and I had some knee issues. It gets used most often when I need to travel over 5 miles to somewhere that transit connections suck. If it is under 3 miles or a suitable train ride it stays parked.
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Plan A: Ride the bike
Plan B: Take a ride-share/bus/taxi/car/walk/get-a-lift and I don't have to explain"why"
Plan C: See Plans A&B

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Old 06-25-19, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
Plan A: Ride the bike
Plan B: Take a ride-share/bus/taxi/car/walk/get-a-lift and I don't have to explain"why"
Plan C: See Plans A&B

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Plan A: Take a ride-share/bus/taxi/car/walk/get-a-lift and I don't have to explain"why"
Plan B: Ride the bike and I don't have to explain"why"
Plan C: See Plans A&B

Also is an option, and requires no "commitment" to anyone including oneself.
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Old 06-26-19, 07:30 PM
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Mercy. I've gotta save that one for somewhere, it's a masterpiece.
Yeah, that is a good one!
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Old 07-03-19, 06:32 PM
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Used to but forced to drive again due to job relocation, hate driving and filling the tank ugh...
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Hi, I'm newer here. I started cycling more seriously this year and biked close to 500 miles since June. I started it to try and get healthier but my inner "tightwad" came out and now I am deliberately looking for small things or errands I can do to not drive our only vehicle which is a truck. I still need to invest in a rear rack and bags. I'd like to get a trailer but might build one. I'd almost get rid of the truck completely at that point but we live in the middle of nowhere and use it to get firewood and any night time events such as school events with our kids. Our nearest grocery store is 16 miles one way and is a little rough. There is a 18 mile route that is smoother and a bit safer also. I've already biked this a few times now but really couldn't haul much without a trailer.

Since I won't be completely be going car free at the moment my plan is to eliminate any possible trips that I can make by bike. Also if we do happen to have the truck out and about I might as well haul back bulkier items. I'm not sure if the truck has been drove much more than 3 or 4 times in the last month which is a big improvement. Although I was already pretty frugal with trips. What I really enjoy now is if I want to go somewhere, I go and don't feel guilty about buying fuel for a 3 ton truck
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Old 07-12-19, 01:00 PM
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I'm working on this. It's going to take several steps, but living a nearly car-free existence is in the works. The plan so far:
  1. Get an ebike. (CHECK!) Several reasons for this, but the short version is that I need something that can help me establish a reliable commute when dealing with longer distances, detours, carrying a lot more crap at times, and harsher weather.
  2. Move. (In the works.) My wife and I are in the final stages of fixing up our house in order to sell it and move out. The idea is to be much closer to both our jobs. Not only that, but the road will also be a lot more bike-friendly no matter where we end up. So, this one's on the way.
  3. Get the kiddo starting school. Not much to do about this one other than wait. But once she's enrolled at the salt mines, I'll be good to go for ditching the car.
We'll still have one car between my wife and I, but I plan on driving it as rarely as possible.

For me, the reasons for doing this are both fun and financial. In my humble opinion, riding is just categorically better than driving every time you can swing it, and my word can it save you some serious cash over time. Honestly when I look at the numbers and how we get around, it's very difficult to justify having two cars.
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Old 07-12-19, 01:51 PM
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We'll still have one car between my wife and I, but I plan on driving it as rarely as possible.

For me, the reasons for doing this are both fun and financial. In my humble opinion, riding is just categorically better than driving every time you can swing it, and my word can it save you some serious cash over time. Honestly when I look at the numbers and how we get around, it's very difficult to justify having two cars.
You will fit right in on this list.
You are planning to use your car(s) less than previously but still will keep and use one car because given your circumstances it is better for your family than the difficulty of actually living car free.
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Old 07-13-19, 04:47 PM
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You will fit right in on this list.
You are planning to use your car(s) less than previously but still will keep and use one car because given your circumstances it is better for your family than the difficulty of actually living car free.
He sure will fit right in here!

I used to rent as many as a dozen or more cars every year, but I have not OWNED a car since 1989. I take a taxi now and then as well. My wife of 25 years has always owned a car. Sure, in an emergency I could use it but same as the guy you are trolling - it is NOT my car. I have to ask to use it, and like a rental car I am expected to fuel it before returning it.

My household is "car-light" but I consider myself "car-free" as I do not have a car in my name. My name is not on the title of my wife's car and we have a separation of property agreement in a prenup. I kept the car maintained for about 15 years but now my new job hours does not give me time, so my wife has to deal with the maintenance. It's her car in the end and her responsibility.

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He sure will fit right in here!

I used to rent as many as a dozen or more cars every year, but I have not OWNED a car since 1989. I take a taxi now and then as well. My wife of 25 years has always owned a car. Sure, in an emergency I could use it but same as the guy you are trolling - it is NOT my car. I have to ask to use it, and like a rental car I am expected to fuel it before returning it.

My household is "car-light" but I consider myself "car-free" as I do not have a car in my name. My name is not on the title of my wife's car and we have a separation of property agreement in a prenup. I kept the car maintained for about 15 years but now my new job hours does not give me time, so my wife has to deal with the maintenance. It's her car in the end and her responsibility.

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Consider yourself anything you like, including "car free".

BTW, does your wife require you to get all transportation as well as your own groceries, shopping and emergency service without any access or use of "her" car?
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Consider yourself anything you like, including "car free".

BTW, does your wife require you to get all transportation as well as your own groceries, shopping and emergency service without any access or use of "her" car?
If I WANT a car, I rent one. If I NEED a car in an emergency I gotta catch a taxi or if I am lucky I can use her car. Since it is not my car, I can not count on it and my wife has her own life and is not concerned about my transportation needs. In fact, she, like you, makes fun of me if I use it. Unless of course I am doing something for her, which is the most likely scenario if you ever see me driving her car.
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In fact, she, like you, makes fun of me if I use it. Unless of course I am doing something for her, which is the most likely scenario if you ever see me driving her car.
I don't make fun of your, or anybody else's use of the family car but your peculiar semantic gyrations about ownership of the car that is a part of your household in order to maintain your so-called "car free" status is hilarious.

Reminds me of the convolutions in language used by some teenagers and well know politicians to describe their sexual activities as not doing "it" and maintaining their virginal halos.

Or maybe the pathetic smokers who maintain their alleged non-smoker status by only smoking cigarettes they can bum from others and never buying (owning) any of their own.

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I don't make fun of your, or anybody else's use of the family car but your peculiar semantic gyrations about ownership of the car that is a part of your household in order to maintain your so-called "car free" status is hilarious.

Reminds me of the convolutions in language used by some teenagers and well know politicians to describe their sexual activities as not doing "it" and maintaining their virginal halos.

Or maybe the pathetic smokers who maintain their alleged non-smoker status by only smoking cigarettes they can bum from others and never buying (owning) any of their own.
Do you have a classification for people who are not car-free and never have been since pre-puberty, yet they hang out in a car-free forum and pass judgement on a topic they know nothing about except hearsay and personal opinions based on projection?
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Do you have a classification for people who are not car-free and never have been since pre-puberty, yet they hang out in a car-free forum and pass judgement on a topic they know nothing about except hearsay and personal opinions based on projection?
"Prototypical LCF poster"
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My household is "car-light" but I consider myself "car-free" as I do not have a car in my name. My name is not on the title of my wife's car and we have a separation of property agreement in a prenup.

I kept the car maintained for about 15 years but now my new job hours does not give me time, so my wife has to deal with the maintenance. It's her car in the end and her responsibility.
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Consider yourself anything you like, including "car free".

BTW, does your wife require you to get all transportation as well as your own groceries, shopping and emergency service without any access or use of "her" car?
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If I WANT a car, I rent one. If I NEED a car in an emergency I gotta catch a taxi or if I am lucky I can use her car. Since it is not my car, I can not count on it and my wife has her own life and is not concerned about my transportation needs.

In fact, she, like you, makes fun of me if I use it. Unless of course I am doing something for her, which is the most likely scenario if you ever see me driving her car.
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I don't make fun of your, or anybody else's use of the family car but your peculiar semantic gyrations about ownership of the car that is a part of your household in order to maintain your so-called "car free" status is hilarious.
I have posted that I consider myself (seriously) Car-Lite, with a condition similar to yours, @JoeyBike. It’s my wife’s car and I use it sparingly at her convenience, though I’m the major breadwinner.
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Boston is probably one of the most Car-free cities in the world, and having a car is often detrimental. We live near the transportation hub of Kenmore Square.

Our easily accessible Car-free / Car-light modalities at home and work are:…
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I’m car-lite too, mostly due to family activities, but I’m the most amenable to car-free [in our family]…
A new twist is that our adult son who lives in our building recently bought a car, mainly for his weekday job, So now with three drivers (not including the daughter) we share two cars, me the lowest priority since I don’t have one.

I mostly commute by bike (14 miles) and convenient commuter rail, and nearly always use the car only on weekends when the Commuter Rail schedule is reduced and family activities frequent.

We live in an area with tight parking restrictions. nearly entirely two-hour metered parking, except on Sundays and Holidays, from 8 AM to 6 PM; many residential-only spots with vigorous enforcement; and only one block in this high-density residental and commercial neighbor with time-unlimited parking with a residential sticker.

We do own one deeded full-time unlimited parking space, that our son sometime uses. Our car is an SUV and more utilitarian than his sedan so we also share according to the purpose of the trip.

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Five months now since I sold my car. Man, I do NOT miss it at all. Was just a freakin albatross around my neck (financially) for very little benefit. I have picked up a small electric friction drive I can use on both of my bikes, to make hauling big stuff easier and also allow me to go further without fear I will crap out and not get back, lol. Having the motor in my bag (it's only 4.5lbs with battery) is just the peace of mind I need to consider going much further from my usual haunts and not feel restricted to closer venues. If I go too far for my knees, I can get a little help on the way back. It has opened my life back up to the places I used to go in a car but was hesitant to try to reach by bike. It's funny how "confidence" is such a big factor in planning rides.
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Five months now since I sold my car. Man, I do NOT miss it at all. Was just a freakin albatross around my neck (financially) for very little benefit. I have picked up a small electric friction drive I can use on both of my bikes, to make hauling big stuff easier and also allow me to go further without fear I will crap out and not get back, lol. Having the motor in my bag (it's only 4.5lbs with battery) is just the peace of mind I need to consider going much further from my usual haunts and not feel restricted to closer venues. If I go too far for my knees, I can get a little help on the way back. It has opened my life back up to the places I used to go in a car but was hesitant to try to reach by bike. It's funny how "confidence" is such a big factor in planning rides.
Bringing your own tailwind! Nice.
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