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Is Trek ditching rim brakes on the Domane and Emonda SL?

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Old 07-07-19, 07:43 AM
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Is Trek ditching rim brakes on the Domane and Emonda SL?

The 2020 Emonda SL is out and it seems that there is now no rim brake option. The 2020 Domane hasn't been announced yet, but the 2019 with rim brake is now on sale (and the same model with disc isn't). Makes me think that there won't be any domane or emonda with rim brakes in a few months.

Where would that leave someone with a rim-brakes frame in case they need a warranty or crash replacement? That would also mean new levers and brakes.

I was really eying the Domane Sl5, not because I don't like the performance of discs, but because it's much cheaper and 1 pound lighter for that price.
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Everything is migrating towards disc brakes. I just bought a new bike and went with disc because that is where I see the industry heading, like it or not. To buy rim brakes at this point is to live in the past.

I’ll put on my flame suit and get ready for the heat. But, that’s the way I see it.
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Originally Posted by ToiletSiphon
The 2020 Emonda SL is out and it seems that there is now no rim brake option. The 2020 Domane hasn't been announced yet, but the 2019 with rim brake is now on sale (and the same model with disc isn't). Makes me think that there won't be any domane or emonda with rim brakes in a few months.

Where would that leave someone with a rim-brakes frame in case they need a warranty or crash replacement? That would also mean new levers and brakes.

I was really eying the Domane Sl5, not because I don't like the performance of discs, but because it's much cheaper and 1 pound lighter for that price.
I think disc brakes are worth the weight penalty and there isn’t much of a penalty at the higher end. It’s the only reason I’m thinking of selling my titanium road bike. Your body fat percentage better be optimal if you are going to be complaining about a 1 pound difference and you better be sponsored and ride as a super domestique for Geraint Thomas.
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Originally Posted by ToiletSiphon
The 2020 Emonda SL is out and it seems that there is now no rim brake option. The 2020 Domane hasn't been announced yet, but the 2019 with rim brake is now on sale (and the same model with disc isn't). Makes me think that there won't be any domane or emonda with rim brakes in a few months.

Where would that leave someone with a rim-brakes frame in case they need a warranty or crash replacement? That would also mean new levers and brakes.

I was really eying the Domane Sl5, not because I don't like the performance of discs, but because it's much cheaper and 1 pound lighter for that price.
I'll try to answer your question w/o discussing the merits of disc v. rim or telling you to drop a few pounds. My local Trek told me last year that Trek was going to completely eliminate rim brakes within year or two. He told me after his annual dealer meeting. FWIW I trust him as he isn't one who spouts stuff off w/out substance.
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Originally Posted by RShantz
I'll try to answer your question w/o discussing the merits of disc v. rim or telling you to drop a few pounds. My local Trek told me last year that Trek was going to completely eliminate rim brakes within year or two. He told me after his annual dealer meeting. FWIW I trust him as he isn't one who spouts stuff off w/out substance.

My dealer told me the same thing when I was shopping around.
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Originally Posted by RShantz
I'll try to answer your question w/o discussing the merits of disc v. rim or telling you to drop a few pounds. My local Trek told me last year that Trek was going to completely eliminate rim brakes within year or two. He told me after his annual dealer meeting. FWIW I trust him as he isn't one who spouts stuff off w/out substance.
Very helpful, although disappointing. Currently there is a 900$ CAD difference between the SL5 rim vs disc. I know discs are better, but for someone who doesn't want to pay a premium, that sure makes every 105 bike much more expensive.
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Originally Posted by RShantz
I'll try to answer your question w/o discussing the merits of disc v. rim or telling you to drop a few pounds. My local Trek told me last year that Trek was going to completely eliminate rim brakes within year or two. He told me after his annual dealer meeting. FWIW I trust him as he isn't one who spouts stuff off w/out substance.
As of 2020 model year, I heard.
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Originally Posted by ToiletSiphon
Very helpful, although disappointing. Currently there is a 900$ CAD difference between the SL5 rim vs disc. I know discs are better, but for someone who doesn't want to pay a premium, that sure makes every 105 bike much more expensive.
It lower the price of disc bikes. If all bikes are disc, then having those brakes is no longer something special. Companies can’t add a premium to the bike just because they have disc wheels.
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Originally Posted by colnago62
It lower the price of disc bikes. If all bikes are disc, then having those brakes is no longer something special. Companies can’t add a premium to the bike just because they have disc wheels.
So far this has not materialized. Take the Emonda SL5 for example. The rim version was under 2500 cad. Now the disc version is 3300 cad, even if it's now only available in disc version.
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Originally Posted by ToiletSiphon
So far this has not materialized. Take the Emonda SL5 for example. The rim version was under 2500 cad. Now the disc version is 3300 cad, even if it's now only available in disc version.
Probably nothing ado about brake systems...and everything to do with raising prices. They only go one-direction. Up.

Remember back when D/A or Record 9s brifters were only $300USD? Or a 105 bike was $1,000? Now, Shimano and everyone else have to "invent" new crappier groups with the very latest in 1990s 8-speed tech to even service the low-end pricepoint.
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Originally Posted by colnago62
It lower the price of disc bikes. If all bikes are disc, then having those brakes is no longer something special. Companies can’t add a premium to the bike just because they have disc wheels.
Don't all bike companies charge more for disc brakes? Frame makers charge more. It will bump up the price, because it cost more.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Probably nothing ado about brake systems...and everything to do with raising prices. They only go one-direction. Up.

Remember back when D/A or Record 9s brifters were only $300USD? Or a 105 bike was $1,000? Now, Shimano and everyone else have to "invent" new crappier groups with the very latest in 1990s 8-speed tech to even service the low-end pricepoint.
News Flash.... Stuff costs more now

My brother bought a 1984 Bianchi with Nuovo Record for $1100(IIRC) back in 1984. A second tier 2019 Bianchi would cost 4x as much today.
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I thought I read somewhere that Trek was going disc on all OEM bikes and would offer rim brakes on frames only. But that might have been Specialized. Regardless, don't expect to be able to buy a full rim-brake bike from any of the manufacturers within the next year or two.
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