Courts to Specialized: go buck yourself
01-14-12, 07:06 AM
#1
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
Courts to Specialized: go buck yourself
Lawsuit is resolved.
__________________
https://www.cotsiscad.com
https://www.cotsiscad.com
01-14-12, 07:32 AM
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Dunwoody GA
Posts: 174
Bikes: Cannondale Synapse
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Common sense in the justice system. That's a miracle! Congrats to Volagi! Shame on Specialized.
01-14-12, 07:47 AM
#4
I'm doing it wrong.
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,875
Bikes: Rivendell Appaloosa, Rivendell Frank Jones Sr., Trek Fuel EX9, Kona Jake the Snake CR, Niner Sir9
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9742 Post(s)
Liked 2,812 Times
in
1,664 Posts
What moron is making those kind of decisions at Specialized? + 1 for the underdog!
01-14-12, 07:51 AM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Boone, North Carolina
Posts: 5,094
Bikes: 2009 Cannondale CAAD9-6 2014 Trek Domaine 5.9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
01-14-12, 07:55 AM
#6
out walking the earth
"We really want to put all our passion and time into growing the sport of cycling.”
read: Which is why we're putting time and energy into litigating intellectual property disputes and not allowing our ex employees to develop their ideas.
read: Which is why we're putting time and energy into litigating intellectual property disputes and not allowing our ex employees to develop their ideas.
01-14-12, 08:05 AM
#7
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
I fully support pointless IP litigation, it helps keep me in business.
__________________
https://www.cotsiscad.com
https://www.cotsiscad.com
01-14-12, 08:06 AM
#8
Senior Member
"It is unclear whether the fact that the jury found in favor of Specialized on the breach of contract claim could lead to Specialized suing for reimbursement of its legal fees, which, according to court documents, were already at a million and a half dollars at the beginning of the trial."
Could very well be not over yet...
Might also mean that there's no chance Volagi can expect to receive reimbursement for their legal costs?
Could very well be not over yet...
Might also mean that there's no chance Volagi can expect to receive reimbursement for their legal costs?
01-14-12, 08:07 AM
#9
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
Actually, the litigation may have served its purpose regardless, which was clearly aimed at quashing a start up competitor. The monies these guys had to come up with to litigate this nonsense may well have dug them a start-up fiscal hole they may never climb out of. So either way, in the end, Specialized may win.
__________________
https://www.cotsiscad.com
https://www.cotsiscad.com
01-14-12, 08:09 AM
#10
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
Lose-lose scenario. Well done Specialized. Dbags that they are.
__________________
https://www.cotsiscad.com
https://www.cotsiscad.com
01-14-12, 08:11 AM
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
Posts: 12,257
Bikes: Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
5 Posts
Actually, the litigation may have served its purpose regardless, which was clearly aimed at quashing a start up competitor. The monies these guys had to come up with to litigate this nonsense may well have dug them a start-up fiscal hole they may never climb out of. So either way, in the end, Specialized may win.
__________________
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
01-14-12, 08:19 AM
#12
I'm doing it wrong.
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,875
Bikes: Rivendell Appaloosa, Rivendell Frank Jones Sr., Trek Fuel EX9, Kona Jake the Snake CR, Niner Sir9
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9742 Post(s)
Liked 2,812 Times
in
1,664 Posts
Actually, the litigation may have served its purpose regardless, which was clearly aimed at quashing a start up competitor. The monies these guys had to come up with to litigate this nonsense may well have dug them a start-up fiscal hole they may never climb out of. So either way, in the end, Specialized may win.
01-14-12, 08:24 AM
#13
Mostly Harmless
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 56,592
Bikes: Have two wheels
Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13714 Post(s)
Liked 4,529 Times
in
2,506 Posts
My favorite passage:
In a direct rebuke to Sinyard’s claim on the stand of being the “Apple Computer of bicycles,” Smith completed his statements with the words, “Mike Sinyard, you are no Steve Jobs.”
In a direct rebuke to Sinyard’s claim on the stand of being the “Apple Computer of bicycles,” Smith completed his statements with the words, “Mike Sinyard, you are no Steve Jobs.”
01-14-12, 08:28 AM
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
Posts: 12,257
Bikes: Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
5 Posts
Who makes a saddles, gloves, helmets, etc. that are comparable to what specialized offers?
__________________
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
01-14-12, 08:45 AM
#15
Still spinnin'.....
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Whitestown, IN
Posts: 1,208
Bikes: Fisher Opie freeride/urban assault MTB, Redline Monocog 29er MTB, Serrota T-Max Commuter, Klein Rascal SS, Salsa Campion Road bike, Pake Rum Runner FG/SS Road bike, Cannondale Synapse Road bike, Santana Arriva Road Tandem, and others....
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
That is the most priceless comment in the entire arrair. Steve Jobs was an innovator, Mike Sinyard sells copies made cheaper overseas.
01-14-12, 08:49 AM
#16
Throw the stick!!!!
Since I don't own anything by Specialized except for a pump, I would have to say there are plenty of comparable companies.
__________________
I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.
01-14-12, 08:54 AM
#17
I'm doing it wrong.
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,875
Bikes: Rivendell Appaloosa, Rivendell Frank Jones Sr., Trek Fuel EX9, Kona Jake the Snake CR, Niner Sir9
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9742 Post(s)
Liked 2,812 Times
in
1,664 Posts
01-14-12, 08:57 AM
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I will never buy Specialized though. At one point I would've considered buying Specialized but after everything I've heard from Specialized dealer employees and all the stuff I've heard on the internet I have no interest in supporting their company.
01-14-12, 09:07 AM
#19
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
All credit to Mr. Sinyard, he has been a very successful businessman in a tough industry. But he and his company come across as utter dbags from all the anecdotal evidence out there, and there is a lot of it.
__________________
https://www.cotsiscad.com
https://www.cotsiscad.com
01-14-12, 09:15 AM
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
Posts: 12,257
Bikes: Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
5 Posts
there weren't a whole lot of readily available non-padded full finger gloves, and I just like the shape and hammock effect of their saddles.
the only other type of saddle I own are brooks.
__________________
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
01-14-12, 09:17 AM
#23
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I like Oakley or Mechanix for a full finger non padded glove.
01-14-12, 09:25 AM
#25
Senior Member
The civil lawyers do so much unnecessary hand wringing. Specialized assumed they could bury them with legal fees.