Carrying Pepper Spray?
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For dogs a small air horn works quite well and doesn't have the blow back problem of spray and works from a greater distance. If you go this route you might want to train the kids to cover their ears when you tell them to. Save the other stuff for bears, if bears really are a problem. I don't have bears here but the wild boars can do some harm ...
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Pepper spray? Would Dirty Harry carry pepper spray? COME ON!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0lvp...eature=related
And, back to seriousness...
I have thought about getting some HALT! spray. I see a lot of dogs out and about, some chase, but most ARE chained up good. Just think a little HALT! spray would be a good thing to have...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0lvp...eature=related
And, back to seriousness...
I have thought about getting some HALT! spray. I see a lot of dogs out and about, some chase, but most ARE chained up good. Just think a little HALT! spray would be a good thing to have...
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This reminds me of the "Bear awareness" joke.
"Just wear bells so that when you walk, the bears can hear you coming and get out of your way. Also - watch out for bear poop in the area. You can tell it belongs to a bear if it has bells in it."
"Just wear bells so that when you walk, the bears can hear you coming and get out of your way. Also - watch out for bear poop in the area. You can tell it belongs to a bear if it has bells in it."
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And it smells like pepper spray...
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Animals use and respond to scent markers. We provide some. We have been using a similar practice for years to mark out our campsites as OURS. Never had a problem, even in bear country - and the van is really like a Whitman Sampler for bears. They like everything we carry. Need a bear box the size of a garage. If they have bear boxes, then they really have a bear problem and we throw the food totes in them.
I've got a potpourri spray mounted in a Swiss fanny pack strapped to the right side of the tubes as a sorta saddlebag. It's in a mesh sleeve for easy access. A pair of trail bars are in the rear sleeve for easy access. My binocs, maps, etc. are in the center compartment.
It's like a fire extinguisher. Have one, go for years with no need. Don't have one? Stand by... It's a good luck charm, rather like my Kimber .45.
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I had an encounter with a dog once and so bought dog repellent and carried it for 3 years but never saw another dog again. With that I figured it was just an anomaly. I don't carry anything now.Who needs bear urine. Human smell is worse...much worse. So just be natural. It will repel any animal on earth, in including other humans. BTW, bears have a super sensitive nose even greater than dogs. As long as you're downwind, they'll smell you coming from miles away.
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In all seriousness, though, it's going to depend on where you are (and I don't know where you live). You're probably fine without pepper spray, but since you've ordered it, carry it if you feel the need to.
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I am also thinking of getting one. Not because of dogs but we currently have an aggressive coyote who has attacked several joggers and one child so far on trails not too far away from where I commuting to work.
https://www.apnews.com/ca64175498894c459f861a9569fe99bf
https://www.apnews.com/ca64175498894c459f861a9569fe99bf
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If you are carrying repellant, be careful of robots in the area:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/two-dozen-...005454336.html
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/two-dozen-...005454336.html
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I carry bear spray, 100% of the time, Why would you go that far,? most here would say... Well I will tell you why,. Around here bears have become used to humans, and yes, 20/30 years ago 100% of the bears I have "encountered" ran/hid... The last 10 years or so pretty well ALL the bears I have encountered, , stop, look, and just stay where they were.... 0% have "run away" (right away) ... now most "end up" running away, but I have had a few that stood their ground and a few that actually charged me.... I can assure you that when a bear charges you, you WILL,... go out and buy a can of bear spray for the next ride... Oh, and as for dogs, well now, they are the only time I have used my bear spray, (3 times in the last 10 years)...
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Sounds like a good idea for non-lethal defense. I've carried a knife before. It's good just to have anyways.
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I'm thinking about carrying spray for all the dog encounters we have in the area, my question is after you spray a dog do you bother letting the owner know?
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Hi all, newbie here - just posted in the General Cycling Discussion forum but thought perhaps I'd get a more targeted response here:
I've recently started riding on bike paths/MUP with my young kids, and am concerned about the slim possibility of dog attacks (reading about stuff like this doesn't help !). With dogs, up-to-no-good humans, and rare black bears (we do have some in this area), I decided I needed to be prepared and so just ordered some Sabre Red Cyclist Pepper Spray - looks like I can just strap it to the top post, haven't received it yet. Also considered the Kimber PepperBlaster which should be equally effective.
Anyone carry either of these products with them? Anyone actually used these? Any other thoughts on "active protection" issues when riding on bike paths with your kids?
Hopefully I never have occasion to use any of this stuff. Thanks!
I've recently started riding on bike paths/MUP with my young kids, and am concerned about the slim possibility of dog attacks (reading about stuff like this doesn't help !). With dogs, up-to-no-good humans, and rare black bears (we do have some in this area), I decided I needed to be prepared and so just ordered some Sabre Red Cyclist Pepper Spray - looks like I can just strap it to the top post, haven't received it yet. Also considered the Kimber PepperBlaster which should be equally effective.
Anyone carry either of these products with them? Anyone actually used these? Any other thoughts on "active protection" issues when riding on bike paths with your kids?
Hopefully I never have occasion to use any of this stuff. Thanks!
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call the police. You don’t need a confrontation with the owner and you don’t want someone figuring out it was you that sprayed their poor little wouldn’t hurt a fly pooch and feeding the police a story about this crazy cyclist that attacked their dog.
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None whatsoever. You can however notify animal control to issue a citation to the owner of the offending pooch.
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The purpose of the bell is to let the animal know you're coming. The best advice in dealing with wild animals is to never confront them in the first place. Keep your distance. If you want to get closer, go to a zoo.,
Any animal will attack if you get too close, whether that's intentional or by accident. Even a timid opossum will defend itself if you corner it. The good news with these carnivores is that humans are not on their food list, but they will come after you if they see you as prey. So don't look like prey.
Any animal will attack if you get too close, whether that's intentional or by accident. Even a timid opossum will defend itself if you corner it. The good news with these carnivores is that humans are not on their food list, but they will come after you if they see you as prey. So don't look like prey.
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Pepper spray is a defensive weapon -- the purpose of which is to let you DISENGAGE AND RETREAT. If you think you have a justifiable need to use it, then follow these steps:
1) "HEY!" -- yell at the animal. This may be enough to halt the attack.
2) Spray -- give it a blast of the most potent chemical that you can have in your jurisdiction (there is no overkill).
3) Get Away! -- get out of Dodge while you can.
I would not advise trying to contact the owner, cops or Animal Control, none of whom will make your day any more pleasant than it already was. The only exception to this rule would be if you have had to hose down an animal which is vicious AND poses a continuing danger to others, so that the cops should be made aware of the situation.
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Are you saying do nothing so the next unsuspecting passerby who isn't carrying pepper spray can get attacked? A dog running around without a leash is illegal in the city. It is your civic duty to report it to the proper authorities. Never turn your back on that responsibility.
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I carry bear spray, although I have never had to use it I have encountered a few black bears with no issues. Some mountain parks actually require you to carry it on their trails.
I cut the top off a water bottle and a standard bear spray can fits snugly in it. I carry it in a the bottle cage on my frame. It stays secure, but pulls out fast when you need it without undoing any Velcro. You don't have to make your own as you can buy one at MEC here: https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5038-9...-Spray-Holster
I cut the top off a water bottle and a standard bear spray can fits snugly in it. I carry it in a the bottle cage on my frame. It stays secure, but pulls out fast when you need it without undoing any Velcro. You don't have to make your own as you can buy one at MEC here: https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5038-9...-Spray-Holster
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Check your state and local laws.
For example, here in Florida,defensive sprays cannot exceed 2 ounces and most bear sprays seem to hold at least 8 ounces. But bears are almost never a problem here.
Wind can disrupt sprays, but now Sabre Red has Pepper Gel instead of foam.
I'd advise buying two identical containers, and using one for practice and only function testing the main one.
Hitting a face sized target with your choice of spray is worth practicing, from various positions.
A concealed firearm can work better in the wind and rain, and is also a noisemaker. Again, check your state and local laws, and practice.
If you shoot someone's dog, it's going to leave a mark.
For example, here in Florida,defensive sprays cannot exceed 2 ounces and most bear sprays seem to hold at least 8 ounces. But bears are almost never a problem here.
Wind can disrupt sprays, but now Sabre Red has Pepper Gel instead of foam.
I'd advise buying two identical containers, and using one for practice and only function testing the main one.
Hitting a face sized target with your choice of spray is worth practicing, from various positions.
A concealed firearm can work better in the wind and rain, and is also a noisemaker. Again, check your state and local laws, and practice.
If you shoot someone's dog, it's going to leave a mark.
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Are you saying do nothing so the next unsuspecting passerby who isn't carrying pepper spray can get attacked? A dog running around without a leash is illegal in the city. It is your civic duty to report it to the proper authorities. Never turn your back on that responsibility.
A lot of times, a loose dog that gets a face full of spray goes home and doesn't want to play anymore.