The Next Bike
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
The Next Bike
I am looking for opinions on used bikes. I am looking at used as my budget is probably around $2k and I think used will give the most bang. I am currently riding a 2016 Giant Defy Disc which I have put a lot of miles on. I am looking for something lighter. Also I am over 6' (35"+ inseam) and my LBS put me in a 56cm frame which is too small. Here is my list so far, I am only looking at carbon:Trek Emonda
Specialized Tarmac
Giant TCR
Cannondale Supersix
Cervelo R3
Scott Addict RC 20
What else should I consider?
Thank you
Rich
Specialized Tarmac
Giant TCR
Cannondale Supersix
Cervelo R3
Scott Addict RC 20
What else should I consider?
Thank you
Rich
#2
Mother Nature's Son
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sussex County, Delaware
Posts: 3,115
Bikes: 2014 Orbea Avant MD30, 2004 Airborne Zeppelin TI, 2003 Lemond Poprad, 2001 Lemond Tourmalet, 2014? Soma Smoothie
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 853 Post(s)
Liked 1,434 Times
in
816 Posts
No opinion on what you should consider, but $2000 will buy a really nice used bike. Just remember, chances are you are probably going to have put in more money once you have made the purchase.So, do you want to spend 2 G's total, or 2 G's plus incidentals?. Do you have the tools and the ability to do the work yourself?
#4
Junior Member
Thread Starter
No opinion on what you should consider, but $2000 will buy a really nice used bike. Just remember, chances are you are probably going to have put in more money once you have made the purchase.So, do you want to spend 2 G's total, or 2 G's plus incidentals?. Do you have the tools and the ability to do the work yourself?
#5
I'm good to go!
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 14,985
Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020
Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6193 Post(s)
Liked 4,808 Times
in
3,316 Posts
Problem with looking for used bikes is that the sellers want what they paid for them. At least if it's a two to three year old bike. If it's more than three years old then you might be losing out on some of the technology that has gotten better. Disc brakes (not that I like them or want them) are better now than they were four years ago. Not sure I'd want to buy three or four year old hydraulics if you are going for that. Subtle changes to DR's have made shifting through 11 speeds better than when it first came out. Depending on how old you go, even the double pivot rim brakes are better than when introduced and certainly better than the ones I grew up on back when they were single pivot.
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,416
Bikes: 2019 Supersix Evo, 2002 Trek 2000
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 273 Post(s)
Liked 45 Times
in
32 Posts
My vote is slightly biased, but my 2019 Supersix Mechanical Ultegra is very light, user-serviceable, stiff, and inexpensive.
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,520
Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo
Mentioned: 354 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20810 Post(s)
Liked 9,456 Times
in
4,672 Posts
Unless you're getting really impatient, I might suggest a wheelset as a half-step. IIRC, most Defy were spec'd with ~2kg wheels. Most of the bikes that'll fall in to your price range will probably have placeholder wheels, too, though maybe not quite as husky.
Likes For WhyFi:
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,473
Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1743 Post(s)
Liked 1,281 Times
in
740 Posts
Just out of curiosity, do you know what it weighs? I'm wondering how it compares to my CAAD 12 w/105 and Ksyrium Elite USTs which comes in at 17 lbs 10 oz. The weight on mine includes a Garmin mount and an Italian Road Bike mirror.
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,416
Bikes: 2019 Supersix Evo, 2002 Trek 2000
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 273 Post(s)
Liked 45 Times
in
32 Posts
But.. With speedplay pedals, 2012 Mavic Aksiums (temporary while awaiting Neugent replacements) and a plastic computer mount, it comes to 17.8 lbs (sorry, bathroom scale doesn't specify ounces.)
I'd say the difference is probably pretty negligible -- even if I had a more accurate way to weigh it. I'll probably lose half a pound (more?) with the new wheels.. The Aksiums aren't boat anchors, but they're not terribly light either.
#11
Junior Member
Thread Starter
I will weigh mine when I have a chance.
what about going from 11 speed to an older 10 speed, will I hate it?
Rich
what about going from 11 speed to an older 10 speed, will I hate it?
Rich
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,473
Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1743 Post(s)
Liked 1,281 Times
in
740 Posts
Well, I just went out and weighed it using my digital bathroom scale -- which tends to fluctuate a bit.. so, it's not 100% on-the-dot.
But.. With speedplay pedals, 2012 Mavic Aksiums (temporary while awaiting Neugent replacements) and a plastic computer mount, it comes to 17.8 lbs (sorry, bathroom scale doesn't specify ounces.)
I'd say the difference is probably pretty negligible -- even if I had a more accurate way to weigh it. I'll probably lose half a pound (more?) with the new wheels.. The Aksiums aren't boat anchors, but they're not terribly light either.
But.. With speedplay pedals, 2012 Mavic Aksiums (temporary while awaiting Neugent replacements) and a plastic computer mount, it comes to 17.8 lbs (sorry, bathroom scale doesn't specify ounces.)
I'd say the difference is probably pretty negligible -- even if I had a more accurate way to weigh it. I'll probably lose half a pound (more?) with the new wheels.. The Aksiums aren't boat anchors, but they're not terribly light either.
#14
Member
Check your classifieds daily/weekly. You can always find great bikes for a good deal. I am partial to the Fuji lines myself. The Altimira, Transonic, and SL are all great bikes.
#15
Full Member
My vote would be for either a Tarmac or Tcr( the bike I currently own). Both bikes are light and provide a decent ride that’s not too harsh. I would probably recommend a wheel upgrade if your just wanting to lighten the bike a little. If you have the clearance, you could go with a set of 40-50 deep wheels setup tubeless. That would make the. Ike more responsive, lighter, and overall more comfortable.
check your local classifieds or fb marketplace. In my area there are more Tarmac’s available than anything else.
check your local classifieds or fb marketplace. In my area there are more Tarmac’s available than anything else.
#17
Junior Member
Thread Starter
I am looking at a 2011 TCR Advanced SL at the moment. It is a little under 16 lbs. It is a lovely bike and light with carbon wheels but I am concerned about a couple things:
It is older, with 10 speed cassette
How will it be for long rides? I plan on doing one 100 miler and the STP this year.... (But I am skinny and love to climb so....)
I appreciate all the input!
Rich
It is older, with 10 speed cassette
How will it be for long rides? I plan on doing one 100 miler and the STP this year.... (But I am skinny and love to climb so....)
I appreciate all the input!
Rich
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Québec, Canada
Posts: 2,112
Bikes: SL8 Pro, TCR beater
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 988 Post(s)
Liked 584 Times
in
439 Posts
I am looking for opinions on used bikes. I am looking at used as my budget is probably around $2k and I think used will give the most bang. I am currently riding a 2016 Giant Defy Disc which I have put a lot of miles on. I am looking for something lighter. Also I am over 6' (35"+ inseam) and my LBS put me in a 56cm frame which is too small. Here is my list so far, I am only looking at carbon:Trek Emonda
Specialized Tarmac
Giant TCR
Cannondale Supersix
Cervelo R3
Scott Addict RC 20
What else should I consider?
Thank you
Rich
Specialized Tarmac
Giant TCR
Cannondale Supersix
Cervelo R3
Scott Addict RC 20
What else should I consider?
Thank you
Rich
I'd say go with the Giant TCR if you can handle the more aggressive position. Did the switch last year (Defy to TCR), and I don't regret it. For your information, my current TCR Adv Pro weight 17lbs.
I am looking at a 2011 TCR Advanced SL at the moment. It is a little under 16 lbs. It is a lovely bike and light with carbon wheels but I am concerned about a couple things:
It is older, with 10 speed cassette
How will it be for long rides? I plan on doing one 100 miler and the STP this year.... (But I am skinny and love to climb so....)
I appreciate all the input!
Rich
It is older, with 10 speed cassette
How will it be for long rides? I plan on doing one 100 miler and the STP this year.... (But I am skinny and love to climb so....)
I appreciate all the input!
Rich
#19
Globo Gym lifetime member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Redmond, Oregon
Posts: 5,204
Bikes: Fast ones
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 410 Post(s)
Liked 614 Times
in
306 Posts
I am looking at a 2011 TCR Advanced SL at the moment. It is a little under 16 lbs. It is a lovely bike and light with carbon wheels but I am concerned about a couple things:
It is older, with 10 speed cassette
How will it be for long rides? I plan on doing one 100 miler and the STP this year.... (But I am skinny and love to climb so....)
I appreciate all the input!
Rich
It is older, with 10 speed cassette
How will it be for long rides? I plan on doing one 100 miler and the STP this year.... (But I am skinny and love to climb so....)
I appreciate all the input!
Rich
10-speed stuff is fine, but 11-speed really nailed some of the lacking aspects of the previous generations. Shimano's proprietary bolt pattern allows me to run a 53/36 crank and an 11-30 cassette, which makes for a super well-rounded gearset.
__________________
#20
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 25,284
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8278 Post(s)
Liked 9,033 Times
in
4,471 Posts
The parts availability of 10 speed stuff may become a concern.
#21
Junior Member
Thread Starter
The bike I am looking at has SRAM Red components. I have found front and rear derailleurs, and cassettes to be readily available. The crankset was replaced with a compact cranes. Are there other components related to the 10-speed that I should be concerned about?
Rich
Rich
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 25,284
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8278 Post(s)
Liked 9,033 Times
in
4,471 Posts
Both my road bikes are 10 speed, btw.
#23
I'm good to go!
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 14,985
Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020
Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6193 Post(s)
Liked 4,808 Times
in
3,316 Posts
The old 27" wheels (630 bsd) I used to love became too hard to find both decent tires and wheel sets. For certain on new road bicycles you couldn't get them. So I switched to 700C bikes to stay reasonably current. Now With the way the mfrs are pushing disc brakes, I'm worrying that even wheelsets with rim braking will become harder to find and certainly like 27" tires, not much choice. So I decided to drink the koolaid and join the crowd. My next bicycle will have disc's.
Consider that when you are looking bikes that old. For not much more you can get a new one. Frames of any other top tier bicycles of times past are probably no better than the lower tier of that same model today. And for certain, the components are old.
Consider that when you are looking bikes that old. For not much more you can get a new one. Frames of any other top tier bicycles of times past are probably no better than the lower tier of that same model today. And for certain, the components are old.
#24
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,954
Bikes: Specialized Roubaix, Canyon Inflite AL SLX, Ibis Ripley AF, Priority Continuum Onyx, Santana Vision, Kent Dual-Drive Tandem
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 873 Post(s)
Liked 726 Times
in
436 Posts
A few pounds is not going to make a difference on something as flat as STP. Unless you've maxed out the spacers and have a 140mm+ stem on your Defy, spend a few bucks to get properly fitted components and it will be a better choice than an older, used climbing bike in your price range.
From a pure weight perspective, it's hard to beat Canyon's offerings because they tend to spec lightweight wheels when other brands will put boat anchors at the same price points, but they haven't been selling in the US long enough for there to be many used ones for sale. You can find some a bit higher than your price range in their outlet, with the risk that they don't take returns on them.
From a pure weight perspective, it's hard to beat Canyon's offerings because they tend to spec lightweight wheels when other brands will put boat anchors at the same price points, but they haven't been selling in the US long enough for there to be many used ones for sale. You can find some a bit higher than your price range in their outlet, with the risk that they don't take returns on them.
#25
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Well this ended up going in a different direction. I am the proud new owner of a 2013 giant Propel Advanced SL 1. More of a race bike than I was looking for but it happens to fit me perfectly (ISP seat post), is in perfect shape, came with a power meter and speed sensor, and was a great deal. It is a thing of beauty and I think I am in love. :-)
thank you all for the advice
rich
thank you all for the advice
rich