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Old 04-08-20, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by gster View Post
Thanks. This photo is before the new tires were fitted.
Truth is , I can't really ride a bike with drop bars.
I need to sit up reasonably straight....
I bet it would look good and ride well with some Northroad bars or other similar riser bar with some sweep.
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Old 04-08-20, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by thorstein View Post
I bet it would look good and ride well with some Northroad bars or other similar riser bar with some sweep.
That was my original plan when I got it but it's such an interesting piece of history that I decided it
should remain as original as possible
As found

These Club bikes are really quite interesting and were a step above the regular 3 speeds of the day.
The EA1 rims suggest yours was originally a Club.
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Originally Posted by gster View Post
That was my original plan when I got it but it's such an interesting piece of history that I decided it
should remain as original as possible
As found
I wouldn't worry about it so much- as you found it was not original. The Humber Sports is a gas-pipe frame; came stock with North Road bend handlebars and a Brooks leather saddle. Someone added the dropped bars and seat.
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Old 04-08-20, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Salubrious View Post
I wouldn't worry about it so much- as you found it was not original. The Humber Sports is a gas-pipe frame; came stock with North Road bend handlebars and a Brooks leather saddle. Someone added the dropped bars and seat.
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Old 04-08-20, 12:17 PM
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Yup!
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Old 04-08-20, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gster View Post
That was my original plan when I got it but it's such an interesting piece of history that I decided it
should remain as original as possible
As found
What is the brand on the speedometer? Do you still have it?
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Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
What is the brand on the speedometer? Do you still have it?
Might have been a NORCO and I think it went out to the curb with a bunch of other stuff....
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Old 04-08-20, 01:45 PM
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Yup!
Nice sticker though....
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Originally Posted by gster View Post
Nice sticker though....
Am I remembering correctly? Didn't we find this model in a Humber catalog in club trim with drop bars and celluloid mudguards?
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Old 04-08-20, 07:19 PM
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Am I remembering correctly? Didn't we find this model in a Humber catalog in club trim with drop bars and celluloid mudguards?
me too, but that all seems like a long time ago.......
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Old 04-09-20, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by brianhamp View Post
I serviced my first Sturmey Archer ASC 3 speed Fixed gear hub today. And I also found myself a AW 3 speed dated 1962. I had posted awhile ago about how I never see many with a 62 date. I had to buy 5 other hubs that came with it but I dont mind, you can never have enough spares ...Right?
The ASC is dated 50-5 .


ASC

ASC

1962 AW
You have a good point re: 62 hubs.
There was a recession in the early 60's and perhaps Raleigh had a big stockpile of hubs they needed
to get through....
Yes, always good to have spares....
You could spend days and $$ trying to track down one little pawl spring to
finish a project.
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You could spend days and $$ trying to track down one little pawl spring to
finish a project.
I recently had a pawl spring fly out of an otherwise functioning complete hub, D'oh!!!

Anyone have one they want to sell?
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Old 04-09-20, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
I recently had a pawl spring fly out of an otherwise functioning complete hub, D'oh!!!

Anyone have one they want to sell?
Somewhere back in this thread, Big Chief had a tutorial
on making your own springs from guitar strings.....
I tried making one out of a staple years ago...
Bad idea as it rusted very quickly and messed things up.
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Old 04-09-20, 03:54 PM
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I've come to terms with the fact that the 1950 Superbe is too small for me. It is the 23" size, but I'm 6'2" or 6'3"ish and mostly legs. The seatpost is too short, and the handlebar stem is way too short. I can't ride it anymore unless I can find a longer post and a longer stem. I'd really like to enjoy this bike and put it in the regular ride and (one day...) commute rotation without sore knees. Anybody got the scoop on longer stem / seatposts that fit these bikes?

Thanks all.
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Old 04-09-20, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gster View Post
Somewhere back in this thread, Big Chief had a tutorial
on making your own springs from guitar strings.....
I tried making one out of a staple years ago...
Bad idea as it rusted very quickly and messed things up.
While I'm sure I could make that happen, I think I'm too neurotic to have a slight imbalance in spring pressure between the pawls :-P
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Old 04-10-20, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ged117 View Post
I've come to terms with the fact that the 1950 Superbe is too small for me. [...] Anybody got the scoop on longer stem / seatposts that fit these bikes?
If these fit a 25.4mm seatpost you could look for this Kalloy 400mm x 25.4mm seatpost or this stainless steel 350mm x 25.4 candle type.
I have used the first one to test ride a 57cm frame where I usually need 63cm+.

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Old 04-10-20, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ged117 View Post
I've come to terms with the fact that the 1950 Superbe is too small for me. It is the 23" size, but I'm 6'2" or 6'3"ish and mostly legs. The seatpost is too short, and the handlebar stem is way too short. I can't ride it anymore unless I can find a longer post and a longer stem. I'd really like to enjoy this bike and put it in the regular ride and (one day...) commute rotation without sore knees. Anybody got the scoop on longer stem / seatposts that fit these bikes?

Thanks all.
Originally Posted by JaccoW View Post
If these fit a 25.4mm seatpost you could look for this Kalloy 400mm x 25.4mm seatpost or this stainless steel 350mm x 25.4 candle type.
I have used the first one to test ride a 57cm frame where I usually need 63cm+.
I have done this as well. For your quill stem, you can use a simple extender, enabling you to keep your original stem.https://www.modernbike.com/sunlite-steerer-extenders
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Originally Posted by Ged117 View Post
I've come to terms with the fact that the 1950 Superbe is too small for me. It is the 23" size, but I'm 6'2" or 6'3"ish and mostly legs. The seatpost is too short, and the handlebar stem is way too short. I can't ride it anymore unless I can find a longer post and a longer stem. I'd really like to enjoy this bike and put it in the regular ride and (one day...) commute rotation without sore knees. Anybody got the scoop on longer stem / seatposts that fit these bikes?

Thanks all.
Canadian Tire used to sell the seat posts, but that was a few years ago.
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This is why you should never use the name "Clint" in a comic book......
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Ged117,

If you have a Metal Superstore around, they can fix you up with a longer post.

Here's something I wrote up when I did the longer seatpost for my Vilano Urbana (See thread for detail) Common seat post sizes

27.2 mm = 1.07inch = 1 1/16
28.6 mm = 1.125984 = 1 1/8
30.4 mm = 1.19685 = 1 13/64
31.8 mm = 1.252 = 1 1/4
33.9 mm = 1.335inch = 1 21/64 (close to 1 5/16)


Seat posts I have

Hummer 27.2
Raleigh 20 28.6 15inch - 380
Nano 29.2
Downtube 30.4 18inch - 450
Urbana 31.8 21inch – 550 - Shimmed
Urbana 33.9 shimmed to 31.8

Available pipe

I.D. (inside diameter)
1.250 AL 6061 – SCH 40 PIPE

Stainless Steel 316/316L Pipe
0.75″ NOMINAL (1.05″ OD X 0.113″ WALL X 0.82″ ID)

Hot rolled steel
1.250 ST STEEL SCH 80 PIPE



Available Tube


1.250 X 0.125 (SEAMLESS) AL 6061T6 TUBE ROUND
1.500 X 0.125 AL 6061T6 TUBE ROUND **** 1.25 i.d ? sleeve for 31.8????
1.500 X 0.125 (SEAMLESS) AL 6061T6 TUBE ROUND
1.500 X 0.125 AL 6063T5 TUBE ROUND

Common shim sizes

Shim sizes
33.9 - 27.2
33.9 - 31.8



Miscellaneous lengths

600 = 24inch
640 = 25 ThorUSA LOOONG standard $38
Raleigh Tube 28.6(1.126, 1-1/8) fits inside Urbana Tube 31.8(1.252, 1-1/4), that means the Urbana tube wall is 1/16, (.06) inch thick or 16 gauge
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Got this 1968 S5 5 speed build finished up today. I do still need to make one more spacer for the second chain guard mount, but other than that it is finished, and I want to make a "stop" for the front of the rack so things clamped in the rack don't get pushed forward into the back of the seat post.

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^ Nice! You got a better fender line with those tires than Raleigh usually did!
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^ Nice! You got a better fender line with those tires than Raleigh usually did!
Ha!

Yea, the radius of the fenders is a bit smaller than it should be IMO, especially the front.

I should probably take a link out of the chain and add a half link, that will put the rear wheel 1/4" further forward, right near the front of the dropouts, but tolerable, and it will make the fender line better.
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Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
Got this 1968 S5 5 speed build finished up today. I do still need to make one more spacer for the second chain guard mount, but other than that it is finished, and I want to make a "stop" for the front of the rack so things clamped in the rack don't get pushed forward into the back of the seat post.

Looks like a good city bike.
Lets see your trigger set up.
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Originally Posted by gster View Post
Looks like a good city bike.
That will be primary use, but it is set up with some pretty nice tubeless gravel tires, and for a total juxtaposition of technology I did set them up tubeless! I do plan on smashing some longer gravel rides on this bike too :-)

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Lets see your trigger set up.


Same trigger set up as a 1963 Hercules I have with an S5 and 700c wheels, here are some pics from this bike,





I even had a "speedy switch" were the name plate is upside down so its actually right side up when used under the bar!


Older thread with double trigger set-up,
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...er-set-up.html
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