So, looks like my commute is increasing to 15 miles each way
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that's a geat commute. your brain and body will be thankful
and don't worry about the sweat, that means yohr body is working properly and in case an odour appears, handle it with clean water and some baking soda
and don't worry about the sweat, that means yohr body is working properly and in case an odour appears, handle it with clean water and some baking soda
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hahaha...some of us, 12mph is not a slog.
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Who's the one doing the attacking here?
I did concede that your idea has merit under the right circumstances, but you lost me, and a few other supporters, when you stated that you can ride in 90* heat in a suit for 13 miles without sweating. Most people would sweat just standing around in a suit at 90*, like at a few summer outdoor weddings I've attended, let alone riding a bike. Yes, you will say that riding an upright bike will generate cooling wind, but what is the speed at which you can ride fast enough to get to work in a reasonable amount of time without sweating, at 90*? I've ridden my MTB, which is quite upright, in the 90* heat of summer, in shorts and a t-shirt, perhaps at 10 mph, and I am drenched in sweat. But I digress.
In any case, seems to me that any time someone asks about a bike recommendation for a commute you are quick to recommend an upright dutch bike. Like I said, under the right circumstances it'd work great. The fact that it works for the Dutch/Germans/Danes/Swedes doesn't mean it works for North Americans. We simply don't have the built in cycling infrastructure to do what Europeans do, and trying implement the same practice here just doesn't work.
You can probably think of many other practices that do not translate well across the ocean.
FWIW I was looking at an upright dutch style bike a while back, the Trek Soho--belt drive, IGH, chain cover, disc/drum brakes f/r, and matching fenders. I would have used it for short rides to the store, going on trails with kids, maybe leisurely summer commutes to work (12 miles) in casual shorts and tank top. I just thought it was a very cool bike.
I did concede that your idea has merit under the right circumstances, but you lost me, and a few other supporters, when you stated that you can ride in 90* heat in a suit for 13 miles without sweating. Most people would sweat just standing around in a suit at 90*, like at a few summer outdoor weddings I've attended, let alone riding a bike. Yes, you will say that riding an upright bike will generate cooling wind, but what is the speed at which you can ride fast enough to get to work in a reasonable amount of time without sweating, at 90*? I've ridden my MTB, which is quite upright, in the 90* heat of summer, in shorts and a t-shirt, perhaps at 10 mph, and I am drenched in sweat. But I digress.
In any case, seems to me that any time someone asks about a bike recommendation for a commute you are quick to recommend an upright dutch bike. Like I said, under the right circumstances it'd work great. The fact that it works for the Dutch/Germans/Danes/Swedes doesn't mean it works for North Americans. We simply don't have the built in cycling infrastructure to do what Europeans do, and trying implement the same practice here just doesn't work.
You can probably think of many other practices that do not translate well across the ocean.
FWIW I was looking at an upright dutch style bike a while back, the Trek Soho--belt drive, IGH, chain cover, disc/drum brakes f/r, and matching fenders. I would have used it for short rides to the store, going on trails with kids, maybe leisurely summer commutes to work (12 miles) in casual shorts and tank top. I just thought it was a very cool bike.