Modern Steel Road Bike Appreciation Thread
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I'm sorry to hear you're sick, happy you're feeling better, and appreciate the compliment, however, thoughtfulness is Totally pointless, so I invite you to forget my earlier remarks and rather, perhaps, marvel at the vast, borderless expanse of modern steel road bike appreciation possibilities where even wood rims have a happy home! Me? I'm staying busy updating my '74 Motobecane, so really embracing modernity to the fullest. #allbikesmatter
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I want to know about those cool fenders, too. Did they come with the bike? Katzenfinch, oh katzenfinch, wherefore art thou, katzenfinch?
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I'm with ya...nothing quite captures the spirit of modernity as much as hand worked metal fenders from those early days of Japan's post WWII recovery era!
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Chaadster, so do you know about these types of fenders? Is the tooling a Japanese tradition, then, of that era? I grew up with carbon fiber and I love my CF bikes, but I have to say that I'm totally enchanted by this bike and I love looking at it!
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They're "hammered" fenders. Especially popular on bikes with skinny tubing and subdued colors (browns, marroons), and when you want silver as your component color but don't want to aim the bike at an entirely loud sleek chromed-up look. They're pretty good in terms of not revealing dents and scratches.
Time for you to N+1 a classic-styled 650b steel randonneuring bike!
I have to say that I'm totally enchanted by this bike and I love looking at it!
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That you're enchanted by the bike is fine (I like it, too), but it is the antithesis of modernity, and as such, a shame it was presented in this thread.
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I dunno how much I know about the "type," but those look like Honjo fenders to me. Similar styles can be had from producers like Berthoud and Velo Orange. Whomever the producer, the style and tech are decades old; not at all modern in any respect.
That you're enchanted by the bike is fine (I like it, too), but it is the antithesis of modernity, and as such, a shame it was presented in this thread.
That you're enchanted by the bike is fine (I like it, too), but it is the antithesis of modernity, and as such, a shame it was presented in this thread.
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Is that the acceptable modern steel grammar? Wouldn't want anything else in This thread. ")
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Any steel-framed drop bar bike made in 1996 or after is welcome in this thread.
New frame, new components, its a gem!
And yes, pre 1996 design for sure. But hey, the comfort of the bar tape, broken in (hopefully) replica saddle and geometry shouts of modern comfort, for that style of bike!
Nice sum of parts.
My retro bike posted above is also 2010 & newer frame & components.
Individuality is good! Not everyone wants modern steel and aero disc brake wheels, though certainly nice...
I can hear the classic & vintage guys saying; nice new vintage style bike, but its not vintage in any way.
Hmmm...
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At some point "modern" lost all connection with being modern ... then we had to be "post-modern" ("After right now" or futuristic? No, because for the people with nothing to sell but BS, "modern" was already over ... because they couldn't make money from people who actually understood the meaning of their words.)
So ... is a bike styled after an older bike "modern" if it was just constructed? Is it "ironically modern"? "Hipster current"?
Once "modern" has a definition besides "stuff from now," it becomes meaningless. So here we have a bike from 2010 which is not "old-fashioned" (because that is an old-fashioned thing to say) and is in fact the "Antithesis of Modern" .... despite its being a modern bike, strictly defined. On the other hand, a bike which is fifteen years Older, can be labelled "Modern."
Normally I can find some humor in this sort of thing ....
So ... is a bike styled after an older bike "modern" if it was just constructed? Is it "ironically modern"? "Hipster current"?
Once "modern" has a definition besides "stuff from now," it becomes meaningless. So here we have a bike from 2010 which is not "old-fashioned" (because that is an old-fashioned thing to say) and is in fact the "Antithesis of Modern" .... despite its being a modern bike, strictly defined. On the other hand, a bike which is fifteen years Older, can be labelled "Modern."
Normally I can find some humor in this sort of thing ....
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My steel ride
In between vintage and modern but here is my 1995 Novara Trionfo chrome plated Tange Prestige frame with original Shimano 600 (ultegra) groupset. My daily rider and wouldn't trade it for anything.
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Stainless steel, custom frame with S&S couplers. Used for commuting, hauling groceries and group rides every once in a while. As well as touring and traveling. It's a bit on the heavy side, but sturdy like an ox.
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it's a bike that works and plays. a modern saddle and no kickstand would cut some of the pork, but otherwise, well done.
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Every time I read "modern steel," I keep thinking that the qualification would be a matter of when the alloy or tubing was developed. It's the steel that's modern. In that case, the components or "styling" don't matter at all.
My steel bike happens to have mostly modern style components (threaded stem, current gruppo, etc., but old-school box section-rimmed wheels), but the tubing is Dedacciai DR Zero Superleggera, which was introduced in 2004 - i.e., well after 1996
My steel bike happens to have mostly modern style components (threaded stem, current gruppo, etc., but old-school box section-rimmed wheels), but the tubing is Dedacciai DR Zero Superleggera, which was introduced in 2004 - i.e., well after 1996
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The kickstand needs to stay, otherwise it turns into a pain to attach the trailer loaded with 4 cases of beer.
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Battaglin to focus on steel and phase out carbon fiber frames | Handbuilt Bicycle News
This interview with Alessandro Battaglin is interesting. It is the thought process behind a storied Italian builder's decision to revert to its core competence by abandoning CF frame production and redirecting focus on building quality steel frames.
This interview with Alessandro Battaglin is interesting. It is the thought process behind a storied Italian builder's decision to revert to its core competence by abandoning CF frame production and redirecting focus on building quality steel frames.
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Just realized I hadn't ever put a pic of the Giordana XL Super into this thread. It's a mid to late 90s Excell Podium tubed bike made by the Billato Brothers in Italy and imported by Gita. Alberto Billato said they did not do the painting on these bikes. Dario Pegoretti confirmed via email that he helped design these. This is easily one of my favorite rides and the one I've put the most miles on this year. Built up with a 11-speed Campagnolo groupset and now sporting a pair of fast riding Campagnolo Shamal Ultra's that's not in the picture.
This bike is fast, carves the curves, and yet is a comfortable ride for doing a century on rough chipseal. It climbs pretty darn good too. It's just a sweet riding, good all-around piece of italian glory. Weighs in at about 19.5 lbs equipped to ride with pedals, bottle cages, computer mount and sensors. Basically everything but the kit bag and water bottles. Not too bad.
Just remembered, I have a pic of it with the Shamal wheels too. That's it's older brother above it, a 1989 Giordana Antares that pretty awesome in and of itself.
This bike is fast, carves the curves, and yet is a comfortable ride for doing a century on rough chipseal. It climbs pretty darn good too. It's just a sweet riding, good all-around piece of italian glory. Weighs in at about 19.5 lbs equipped to ride with pedals, bottle cages, computer mount and sensors. Basically everything but the kit bag and water bottles. Not too bad.
Just remembered, I have a pic of it with the Shamal wheels too. That's it's older brother above it, a 1989 Giordana Antares that pretty awesome in and of itself.
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I've also got this piece of modern steel. A 2003 Lemond Tourmelet built back up with Ultegra and Dura Ace parts. Light, fast, direct, and the paint is so much better than the paint on my 2002 LeMond Zurich. This bike is sporting a crazy set of 53/34 chainrings by Wickwerks. You would not believe how quickly and cleanly these chainrings work despite the wide range. The ramp technology they use to shift from the small to large chainring is amazing. Just using a standard Dura Ace FD to shift these.
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Finally, my latest find is this dang near mint 1999 Bianchi Campione in New Pearl Lime. I cleaned a bunch of dried up grease off this yesterday but haven't gotten it out for a test ride since. I did do a 22 miler on it earlier this week and things went well. Those are the original tires and they are still soft and supple. Not dried out like I'm used to finding.
Look how complete the paint still is. Everything you see is dirt and grease and has now been cleaned up.
Look how complete the paint still is. Everything you see is dirt and grease and has now been cleaned up.
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Finally, my latest find is this dang near mint 1999 Bianchi Campione in New Pearl Lime. I cleaned a bunch of dried up grease off this yesterday but haven't gotten it out for a test ride since. I did do a 22 miler on it earlier this week and things went well. Those are the original tires and they are still soft and supple. Not dried out like I'm used to finding.
Look how complete the paint still is. Everything you see is dirt and grease and has now been cleaned up.
Look how complete the paint still is. Everything you see is dirt and grease and has now been cleaned up.
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Waterford St-14, my new do it all rain bike: Walter
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Walter by Matt.zilliox, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Walter by Matt.zilliox, on Flickr[/IMG]
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