Trek better than Cervelo?
08-09-20, 09:59 AM
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I dont know where either of the frames are built. Chances are both are built in Asia, maybe in the same frame factory. There are only about a half dozen different frame mfg, and they build up a frame, and then paint it with the brand name of the company that ordered it.
08-09-20, 10:37 AM
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I've read of Carbon frames shipped from Asia then painted & finished in European companies ,
In the 80's the local bike shop did final prep of Italian Steel bike frames & forks
So Campagnolo sold many Chase & Face frame prep tool sets ..
In the 80's the local bike shop did final prep of Italian Steel bike frames & forks
So Campagnolo sold many Chase & Face frame prep tool sets ..
08-09-20, 11:11 AM
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They are usually painted in Asia too. Not for me, I found great carbon bikes made in Italy and the US for the same price. Just took a little work.
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08-09-20, 07:24 PM
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Trek does not have any of its carbon frames manufactured in China, only in Taiwan. Most of the major bike manufacturers (Giant, Specialized, etc) are the same. Taiwan is pretty much ground zero for high quality carbon frame manufacturing in Asia.
08-09-20, 07:39 PM
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I think that Giant does lots of manufacturing in the mainland. They bring it back to Taiwan to do final "prep" and ship. In todays world, things are not as clear cut as people would like. Like Pivots being from Burma.
08-09-20, 07:47 PM
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As I say in every thread where someone is putting two bikes head to head, ride 'em both and buy the one that speaks to you. I tested half a dozen bikes the day I got my R3, and they ranged from "omigod I hate this" to "if the 1995 Honda Civic was a bicycle, this would be it." Then I rode the Cervelo, and I knew. It will celebrate it's 3rd birthday next month. It has 13,000 miles on it.
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08-09-20, 07:48 PM
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That's interesting...I had thought that they had all but closed shop in the mainland due to tariffs.
08-09-20, 07:52 PM
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80% of carbon frames are made by Giant or Merida. Merida does not sell its bikes here because of a non-compete with Specialized. Who really knows if they care about quality control with subcontractored brands.
I also learned something in my shopping and research. The team bikes that you see racing and competing are in many cases other brands. Canyon for example has team bikes made by Sarto in Italy. Pinarello makes bikes for several other teams as does Basso.
I haven’t shopped for a bike in 12 years and I am now. The only carbon bike I am comfortable buying is a Pinarello Dogma that is made in Italy or a Basso which is made in Italy. There are few carbon manufactures in the USA like Allied in Arkansas and Parlee in Mass. and I am still considering them.
I also learned something in my shopping and research. The team bikes that you see racing and competing are in many cases other brands. Canyon for example has team bikes made by Sarto in Italy. Pinarello makes bikes for several other teams as does Basso.
I haven’t shopped for a bike in 12 years and I am now. The only carbon bike I am comfortable buying is a Pinarello Dogma that is made in Italy or a Basso which is made in Italy. There are few carbon manufactures in the USA like Allied in Arkansas and Parlee in Mass. and I am still considering them.
08-09-20, 09:33 PM
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09-21-20, 09:55 AM
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If you literally have to choose between Di2 and good wheels, I would pick the wheels. But outside of that situation, give me Di2 8 days a week. Most people who criticize Di2 haven't used it, and I've never met anyone who actually has Di2 that regretted the choice. It isn't a requirement to enjoy your bike, but it's a hugely nice upgrade.
09-21-20, 10:02 AM
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09-21-20, 10:30 AM
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You gotta make your own decision but hey, $1500 is $1500. As far as BB issues, anyone who has had them is because of a poor build. As long as you use the correct Loctite and primer (very important) they won't creak, ever. My first S5 I kept for 5 years, never an issue. I'm on my second one and fully expect it to be as reliable. Bottom line is, do your own research as far as what type of Loctite and primer to use, make sure to buy them and give them to your mechanic and don't be afraid of hurting sensibilities because this is your money you're spending.
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both fine
I have had 3 cervelos and a bunch of treks including a current emonda sl6 pro disc. I just test road the caledonia with mechanical ultegra and loved it--- it just felt good even with the heavy wheels and wide tires. It is totally different than an emonda, but I would not hesitate to buy a cervelo. I would never spend extra $ on the di2. In fact,I would buy 105 shimano if they had it....best value , just slightly heavier use xtra $ for wheels etc
02-01-21, 12:35 PM
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Apples and bowling balls. Two totally different bikes so I don't see why you would think they are not totally different.
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