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$10k budget for a new bike

Old 01-06-13, 02:32 PM
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How about a lovely pair of gold plated roller skates?
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Old 01-07-13, 03:19 PM
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Just found this on page 2. Something's not right here people.

Nachoman, why go gold plated? Solid gold rollerskates is where it's at!
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Old 01-13-13, 08:11 PM
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Why even put a limit on 10k. Have your friend reach for the top and get one of these at 40k:




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Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe View Post
I'd also say that if she doesn't know exactly what you want, then there's no reason whatsoever for her to drop $10,000 on a single bike.
This. Unless she knows up front that conventional geo won't work, get a decent off-the-shelf bike for $1000 or so. Ride it for a few months, figure out what you like and don't. Then go blow your load on a custom geometry bike with RedDuraRecord and Zipp Wallet Weaponry wheels.
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Old 01-17-13, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by roadraccer View Post
Why even put a limit on 10k. Have your friend reach for the top and get one of these at 40k:

Why is it that very expensive bikes are almost always photographed with valve caps? Must be going for the Fred market...
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Old 01-18-13, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
Why is it that very expensive bikes are almost always photographed with valve caps? Must be going for the Fred market...
I put caps on all my bikes because they are more aero. Aero trumps the extra weight. I use colored ones to match each's scheme. This is much less Fred than having 9,355 posts.
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Originally Posted by sced View Post
I put caps on all my bikes because they are more aero. Aero trumps the extra weight. I use colored ones to match each's scheme. This is much less Fred than having 9,355 posts.
You have any data to support that valve caps are more aero than uncovered? Would love to see the boundary layer analysis.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
You have any data to support that valve caps are more aero than uncovered? Would love to see the boundary layer analysis.
And there you get to the heart of it.

You've got to have the dimpled valve covers, or the laminar air flow issues kill the advantage.
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Originally Posted by sced View Post
I put caps on all my bikes because they are more aero. Aero trumps the extra weight. I use colored ones to match each's scheme. This is much less Fred than having 9,355 posts.
My valve caps are a set of gold dice, b/c i want everybody to know i'm a playa
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
You have any data to support that valve caps are more aero than uncovered? Would love to see the boundary layer analysis.
I only have empirical data. Same bike+tire pressure, average speed over an ~18 mile hilly loop: 15 rides with caps - 16.34 mph, 11 w/o caps 16.08. There you have it.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
And there you get to the heart of it.

You've got to have the dimpled valve covers, or the laminar air flow issues kill the advantage.
They're ribbed, ribs > dimples.
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Originally Posted by sced View Post
I only have empirical data. Same bike+tire pressure, average speed over an ~18 mile hilly loop: 15 rides with caps - 16.34 mph, 11 w/o caps 16.08. There you have it.
Because there could be nothing that could affect this data like wind or temperature...
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Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
Why is it that very expensive bikes are almost always photographed with valve caps? Must be going for the Fred market...
Funny you mentioned that. I got a high end bike this summer from a very good shop (owners are in nationally known for training and racing and sponsor a good team) and it came with valve caps. So I thought who am I to question?
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There are like 7 new pages since I last checked in on this thread. I'm not about to read all that.

Has she bought a bike yet?
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Originally Posted by YOJiMBO20 View Post
Because there could be nothing that could affect this data like wind or temperature...
Tongue-in-cheekedness is another independent variable.
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