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i guess i pissed him off

Old 11-08-05, 01:54 AM
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30 yards is worthless if your trying to get a draft or pull going...
I usually get kinda close if I really badly need a draft.

I suck at pulling and I dont know when to step it up or slow down, I guess I can pull people that usually ride like 18mph but most people ride at my speed so me pulling them is kind of a waste. Especially some people who I probably slow down by going 20-22 lol
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Old 11-08-05, 06:53 AM
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This issue comes up more than fly vomit.
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Old 11-08-05, 10:33 AM
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That other guy overreacted. It's his problem.
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Old 11-08-05, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DXchulo
You don't just ride up behind someone and sit there without saying anything. That's a big violation of cycling etiquette. If you're going to sit back there, at least let him know you're there. Say you pull up behind someone and it's a windy day or that person has bad hearing or something and doesn't know you're there. Bad things could happen in a situation like that.

You say you were far behind him and not drafting, but how is he to know that? I doubt he was monitoring how far away you were, so if he heard you back there he probably just assumed you were back there drafting and not helping. What if you thought someone was drafting off of you for a few miles? You'd probably be a little upset about it as well.

If you caught up to me like that the 2nd time just to make me mad I'd start blowing snot rockets.
The OP said he was 30 yards behind, that would be a heck of a snot rocket.
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Old 11-08-05, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Eatadonut
I'd be irritated if I couldn't drop someone who wouldn't pass me after a few miles.
+1
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Old 11-08-05, 10:41 AM
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Can't we all just get along?
Actually if you were behind me for that long of time I would have slowed down to allow you to catch up and then struck up a conversation. Meet alot of great folks out there on the road.
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Old 11-08-05, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bluecd
so i either have to pass you or not follow you at all? how far back do i need to stay, 100 yds? 500 yds? a mile?

ive had people suck my wheel, pace me sitting back, pass me, and it doesnt bother me one bit. why would it bother you?
Because it bugs me to have someone pacing me that close without saying anything...it's creepy. Just like it bothers me to have someone following me if I'm walking down the street. If it doesn't bother you, that's fine.
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Old 11-08-05, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by whamptonrides
Because it bugs me to have someone pacing me that close without saying anything...it's creepy. Just like it bothers me to have someone following me if I'm walking down the street. If it doesn't bother you, that's fine.

30 yards is close?
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Old 11-08-05, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
The OP said he was 30 yards behind, that would be a heck of a snot rocket.
Never underestimate my snot-rocketing ability.
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Old 11-08-05, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bluecd
because im a jerk to people that arent cordial.
You taunted him by following him and not passing him. Not everyone likes to be followed. You should have caught up and simply passed him.

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Old 11-08-05, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cs1
You taunted him by following him and not passing him. Not everyone likes to be followed. You should have caught up and simply passed him.

Tim
Wow, I never looked at it that way. I have in the past spotted a rider ahead of me and picked up speed as a motivator to ride faster. If they are really cooking then I just try to keep them in sight. Never any harm intended and I certainly wouldn't climb up on a rider then stay there.
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Old 11-08-05, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 60cycle
30 yards is close?
Yes, close enough to bug me.
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Old 11-08-05, 01:07 PM
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well... okay then.
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Old 11-08-05, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mariner Fan
Wow, I never looked at it that way. I have in the past spotted a rider ahead of me and picked up speed as a motivator to ride faster. If they are really cooking then I just try to keep them in sight. Never any harm intended and I certainly wouldn't climb up on a rider then stay there.

thats what i was doing and i figured 30 yards was far enough away not to crowd him. when i finally pulled up beside him at the stop sign i was thinking maybe he would want some company but i guess he didnt.

all this took place on a local bike trail and encountering many cyclers happens every ride. if we were out on a lonely road then i would of done things differently.

oh and he was spitting & blowing snot rockets up ahead of me.

anyway today was another great day & i enjoyed my ride.
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Old 11-08-05, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by whamptonrides
Yes, close enough to bug me.
30 YARDS?

3 ft in a yard right?( I forget your system )

thats 30*3=90ft

90ft is too close? Jeez im riding 2-5ft from cars and you think that someone 90ft away from you is too close?

Why even ride? Most things are within a 90ft radius of you anyways?
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Old 11-08-05, 05:43 PM
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Sounds like a possible cause of road bike rage.
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Old 11-08-05, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
30 YARDS?

3 ft in a yard right?( I forget your system )

thats 30*3=90ft

90ft is too close? Jeez im riding 2-5ft from cars and you think that someone 90ft away from you is too close?

Why even ride? Most things are within a 90ft radius of you anyways?
Hey, I didn't say that he would be so close that I'm afraid of a crash, I simply said it would bug me if someone paced me, staying 30 yards behind me, for 5 or 6 miles. I would assume that he was doing it intentionally and it would bug me. I would think most people would feel the same way. Maybe it's just me.
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Old 11-08-05, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by whamptonrides
Hey, I didn't say that he would be so close that I'm afraid of a crash, I simply said it would bug me if someone paced me, staying 30 yards behind me, for 5 or 6 miles. I would assume that he was doing it intentionally and it would bug me. I would think most people would feel the same way. Maybe it's just me.
I would just make a turn on the street or let them pass
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Old 11-08-05, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bluecd
i had to work hard to catch him the first time and once i did i slowed to my usual pace which was the same as his. i do this type of personal training all the time. i see someone ahead & ride hard to catch them. most of the time i pass as they are slower riders than me then i rest for a bit at my usual pace until i recover enough to catch the next person. i could of passed him but i would of blown up and wouldnt have been able to stay ahead of him. this guy looked to be a serious rider and i didnt want to be one of those "look at me i passed you sucker" kind of rider so thats why i stayed back. the second time i had to work very hard to catch him so if i annoyed him i succeeded.

edit: at least in my mind i succeeded, i dont know if he was annoyed by the second catch or not but i felt better about it.

If you were going the same pace as him, why were you being rude in not completely catching up with him and then riding together for a few miles? You never know, he could have been David Zubrisky!
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Originally Posted by bluecd
i had to work hard to catch him the first time and once i did i slowed to my usual pace which was the same as his. i do this type of personal training all the time. i see someone ahead & ride hard to catch them. most of the time i pass as they are slower riders than me then i rest for a bit at my usual pace until i recover enough to catch the next person. i could of passed him but i would of blown up and wouldnt have been able to stay ahead of him. this guy looked to be a serious rider and i didnt want to be one of those "look at me i passed you sucker" kind of rider so thats why i stayed back. the second time i had to work very hard to catch him so if i annoyed him i succeeded.

edit: at least in my mind i succeeded, i dont know if he was annoyed by the second catch or not but i felt better about it.

If you were going the same pace as him, why were you being rude in not completely catching up with him and then riding together for a few miles? You never know, he could have been David Zubrisky!
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Originally Posted by bluecd
i had to work hard to catch him the first time and once i did i slowed to my usual pace which was the same as his. i do this type of personal training all the time. i see someone ahead & ride hard to catch them. most of the time i pass as they are slower riders than me then i rest for a bit at my usual pace until i recover enough to catch the next person. i could of passed him but i would of blown up and wouldnt have been able to stay ahead of him. this guy looked to be a serious rider and i didnt want to be one of those "look at me i passed you sucker" kind of rider so thats why i stayed back. the second time i had to work very hard to catch him so if i annoyed him i succeeded.

edit: at least in my mind i succeeded, i dont know if he was annoyed by the second catch or not but i felt better about it.
If you were going the same pace as him, why were you being rude in not completely catching up with him and then riding together for a few miles? You never know, he could have been David Zubrisky!
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I just started road biking this year so if I sound confused, bear with me. A guy is riding down the road/trail minding his own business being followed by bluecd, who is also minding his own business (or is he?). Bluecd rides behind, keeping a steady pace and distance. At a stop, bluecd tries to strike up a conversation and the first guy gives him a look then rides away, still minding his own business. I can't believe there's a problem here except thet the guy rode to the left side of the trail for a while. And that didn't matter either becaue bluecd wasn't even going to pass him. He didn't seem to care about where you were riding or how fast you were going so why are you making an issue of it? WTF?
Makes me want to stick to mtn biking. Usually when we meet on the trail, we're not so paranoid. It also makes no difference if we ride together or not. And whether we do or not, we don't get all pis*ed off because the other guy was faster, slower, stayed behind, or passed, smiled or frowned.
I think your attitudes perpetuate the "roadie" stereotype.

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Originally Posted by jslopez
He could have had a bad day, or that's his riding face or he may need to go to the restroom and the mean glare was more of a frnatic search for a place to relieve himself.

I wouldn't try to read too much into people you meet on the road.

Still, even if you have to go to the restroom, when someone says hi to you, you have to show some respect even if you think he's making fun of you.
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anyway today was another great day & i enjoyed my ride.

That's what you should have done the first time.
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Originally Posted by Extort
If you were going the same pace as him, why were you being rude in not completely catching up with him and then riding together for a few miles? You never know, he could have been David Zubrisky!
because there are a lot of stop signs on this particular trail & instead of suddenly popping up next to a rider and barging in while we're rolling, i usually wait until we stop to strike up a conversation. ive done it many times in the past & people have also done it to me. sometimes we end up riding together, sometimes not, but every time we have at least acknowledged eachother with a hello or a hows it going. usually i dont let myself get bothered by this type of thing but for some reason his FU look just got my goat.

typically on this trail you pull to the left so the person behind can get past & take a pull. im thinking he was mad at me because when he pulled to the left of the trail he expected me to pass & take a pull which i would of gladly done if i was riding his wheel. again i figured i was far enough back for him to realize that i wasnt drafting and taking advantage of him. but, he never actually looked back at me & maybe he thought i was closer than i was. im sure ill run across him again and give it another go. he did give me a hell of a workout.
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