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Old 09-20-19, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by philbob57 View Post
To clarify:

1) I don't play chicken with young schmucks. When I see a bike being ridden no handed coming towards me, and the bike isn't going in a straight line, I'll ride a few yards at the bike. If that doesn't do the trick, I go back into my lane and slow down and suppress the urge to whack the kid.

2) I just slow down for kids who are pretty clearly learning to ride. I'm not happy with the parents, who shouldn't take their kids on a MUP until they can ride in their lanes, but as for the kids themselves, I'm happy to give them the time they need to learn.
If not on a MUP, where is a kid supposed to learn how to ride in a lane? I think those parents are doing exactly the right thing as long as they do everything they can to make their kid's presence known to other cyclists. The only thing I've ever said to "correct" such parents is to tell them they didn't need to apologize because teaching kids is a big part of what the paths are for.

If someone is closing with me head-on in my own lane, I'm yelling at them to move over. They obviously don't get it for some reason, and I'm not going to wait for the light bulb to go on over their head. I don't care what the situation is, I think intentionally riding at their bike at any distance close enough to send some sort of message is a really, really bad idea.
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Old 09-20-19, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by badger1 View Post
The problem with this thread is mistake of fact.

OP didn't see someone riding 'no hands'; op saw someone trying desperately to find their illusory drop bars prior to entering a curve in order to trail-brake before hitting the apex.
OP misunderstood the situation because a big gust of wind blew his hands off the hoods and distracted him. I'd also like to know if OP's really bright daytime lights were wearing helmets.
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Old 09-20-19, 11:18 AM
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Hands off is the only way I can punch out a text or post on instagram tho'
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Old 09-20-19, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
Hands off is the only way I can punch out a text or post on instagram tho'
Or flip off two people at once.
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Old 09-20-19, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Humpy View Post
Honestly?

I think riding around and yelling at people about stuff like this is incredibly ******y.
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Old 09-20-19, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by philbob57 View Post
To clarify:

1) I don't play chicken with young schmucks. When I see a bike being ridden no handed coming towards me, and the bike isn't going in a straight line, I'll ride a few yards at the bike. If that doesn't do the trick, I go back into my lane and slow down and suppress the urge to whack the kid.

2) I just slow down for kids who are pretty clearly learning to ride. I'm not happy with the parents, who shouldn't take their kids on a MUP until they can ride in their lanes, but as for the kids themselves, I'm happy to give them the time they need to learn.
More than one schmuck in this post imo
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Old 09-20-19, 12:13 PM
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Old 09-20-19, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
Hands off is the only way I can punch out a text or post on instagram tho'
Or give a two handed waive. You do wave, don't you? I did an up and back on the GAP starting last week. My left wrist got sore from waving. It go so painful that I had to switch to the head nod.
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Old 09-20-19, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 400E View Post
So my current pet peeve when on my MUP is the occasional rider, usually a male teenager, riding towards me whom I notice as he passes that he's riding hands-off. I reflexively yell something like "Hands on the bars!" as I pass since I think it's pretty rude to ride in the vicinity of another human (pedestrian or cyclist) without full control of the bicycle. All it would take is the front wheel hitting a piece of tree branch on the trail to send that cyclist flying, and there would be a good chance he'd collide with anyone nearby.

Wondering what others think about this?
I am flattered you thought I was so young.

Funny, I though you said “Heading to the bar” when you passed me.
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Old 09-20-19, 12:44 PM
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Besides all that, I think it makes a more effective point if you take your hands off and cover up your eyes as you ride by the hands-off cyclist.
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Old 09-20-19, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 400E View Post
So my current pet peeve when on my MUP is the occasional rider, usually a male teenager, riding towards me whom I notice as he passes that he's riding hands-off. I reflexively yell something like "Hands on the bars!" as I pass since I think it's pretty rude to ride in the vicinity of another human (pedestrian or cyclist) without full control of the bicycle. All it would take is the front wheel hitting a piece of tree branch on the trail to send that cyclist flying, and there would be a good chance he'd collide with anyone nearby.

Wondering what others think about this?
I'm perfectly capable, thanks. You concentrate on keeping to your side.
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Old 09-20-19, 01:15 PM
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My opinion concerning this topic is the same as that in the thread "Cyclist's safety...what to do" and " How do you deal with Harrassment"

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Old 09-20-19, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
Besides all that, I think it makes a more effective point if you take your hands off and cover up your eyes as you ride by the hands-off cyclist.
Get two more riders to do "speak no evil" and "hear no evil".
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Old 09-20-19, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Get two more riders to do "speak no evil" and "hear no evil".
Seriously, I tried to get my wife to cover her mouth, but she wasn't quick enough on the uptake. It wasn't that the guy was just riding no-handed; he had them clasped behind his back, nose up in the air and looked so smug I couldn't resist the impulse.
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Old 09-20-19, 01:47 PM
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When did we become such busy-bodies, always checking up to make sure others are behaving in a manner that we approve.

Good Lord this is America.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
When did we become such busy-bodies, always checking up to make sure others are behaving in a manner that we approve.

Good Lord this is America.
IDK. I don't see a problem with trying to educate people. When I was touring last year a couple of people who were on an organized, supported tour buzzed me and spoke up just as they were basically in my ear. Unnerved me due to the setting and somewhat hazardous conditions existing at the time. I suggested that they give an advance warning as a courtesy, in only because if spooking me causes me to swerve, I and my fully-loaded bike are going to win that battle. I told one guy that I was riding a semi and he a Mazda Miata.

Perhaps ironically, I got yelled at by a salmon this spring. I pulled all the way over to the curb on the right and stopped. Wasn't intending on saying a word and just let him pass. He told me I could have moved out into traffic so he could have hugged the curb. Not only was that ludicrous in and of itself, his salmon buddy was behind him was and already occupying that spot. I would have had to go out near the double yellow line to safely avoid both of them.
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Old 09-20-19, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
get off my lawn!
Dang kids these days with their transistor radios and hip language...
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Originally Posted by Humpy View Post
Honestly?

I think riding around and yelling at people about stuff like this is incredibly ******y.
I don't know what's behind the asterisks, but I agree.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
When did we become such busy-bodies, always checking up to make sure others are behaving in a manner that we approve.

Good Lord this is America.
Your second statement answers the first. We've ALWAYS been a bunch of busy-bodies making sure that others behave in a manner that we approve. As evidence, I give you blue laws.
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I only ride no handed on the slight downhills to keep up speed. I am an Air Guitar Master.
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes View Post
Your second statement answers the first. We've ALWAYS been a bunch of busy-bodies making sure that others behave in a manner that we approve. As evidence, I give you blue laws.
That may be so. But I live in the Great American West, the final frontier in a manner of speaking. Here in the West, once upon a time, laissez-faire was the law of the land.

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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
That may be so. But I live in the Great American West, the final frontier in a manner of speaking. Here in the West, once upon a time, laissez-faire was the law of the land.
Not any more. Now we seem to live in a country of "If I don't like it, then nobody else should do it either."
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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
Even people who know what they are doing can crash riding no hands. If it can happen to Chris Froome--who is a pretty good bike rider--it can happen to you.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/12/sport...gbr/index.html
I think the OP was riding on a MUP and the 'no-hands' rider likely noodling along at 20kph, not descending a hill in the wind at 60kph.

Like I said, a crash while riding with no hands is rare and the likelihood of having a crash just as the OP is riding by even lower.

Much ado about nothing. You're far more likely to have a problem passing a walker who decides to change direction as you go by or from an animal.
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Was about to go look for this to post it myself.
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