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Old 09-22-19, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by zarbog View Post
What is a salmon ? Vision of you talking to fish that talk back is disturbing.
A rider riding against traffic.
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Old 09-22-19, 10:17 AM
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Old 09-22-19, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BririaBoarder View Post
I'm amazed no-hands riding can even be done.

Even when I'm signaling my turns, my arm is out there for seconds only...I need it for steering!
It's a zen flow thing. It's also a good check for front wheel wobbles and rim issues. Headset issues too.
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Old 09-22-19, 03:02 PM
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when I was a kid I could ride my bike from my house to the city park about 2 miles away with no hands on the handlebars. Now I can't take them off for more than a few seconds.
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Old 09-22-19, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985 View Post
Glad there are none of these so-called "MUP" things in my area, they sound awful. I get aggravated just reading about them here.
They are great. I ride the greenways (what they're called in my area) about 75% of the time. Rode 127 miles one Sunday on one several weeks ago.

Lots of shade from the sun, no damn cars to worry about, and nice and scenic in a number of ways.
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Old 09-23-19, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 400E View Post
So my current pet peeve when on my MUP is the occasional rider, usually a male teenager, riding towards me whom I notice as he passes that he's riding hands-off. I reflexively yell something like "Hands on the bars!" as I pass since I think it's pretty rude to ride in the vicinity of another human (pedestrian or cyclist) without full control of the bicycle. All it would take is the front wheel hitting a piece of tree branch on the trail to send that cyclist flying, and there would be a good chance he'd collide with anyone nearby.

Wondering what others think about this?
I see these sometimes...doesn't really bother me that much. I suppose it would if they didn't look in control). What bothers me much more is anyone riding with one hand, while with the other they're yakking on their cell. I have a secret desire to poke a stick through their spokes.
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Old 09-23-19, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Leebo View Post
It's a zen flow thing. It's also a good check for front wheel wobbles and rim issues. Headset issues too.
And it's fun. Remember fun? It's why we all started riding bikes in the first place.
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Old 09-23-19, 11:43 AM
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Hands free

It really is about them crashing, particularly if like another fellow, said elbows out and head well braced.
More of a worry is the Tri athlete on tri bike, banging away up hill in big ring, riding for the first time in a bunch. Dodging their weaving is unsettling to the bunch and the only place for them is either way off the front, or well away from other climbers.
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Old 09-23-19, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 400E View Post
So my current pet peeve when on my MUP is the occasional rider, usually a male teenager, riding towards me whom I notice as he passes that he's riding hands-off. I reflexively yell something like "Hands on the bars!" as I pass since I think it's pretty rude to ride in the vicinity of another human (pedestrian or cyclist) without full control of the bicycle. All it would take is the front wheel hitting a piece of tree branch on the trail to send that cyclist flying, and there would be a good chance he'd collide with anyone nearby.

Wondering what others think about this?
Good question though: Is riding this way illegal (if it is dangerous to anyone, including the rider himself, it should be).
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Old 09-23-19, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 400E View Post
So my current pet peeve when on my MUP is the occasional rider, usually a male teenager, riding towards me whom I notice as he passes that he's riding hands-off. I reflexively yell something like "Hands on the bars!" as I pass since I think it's pretty rude to ride in the vicinity of another human (pedestrian or cyclist) without full control of the bicycle. All it would take is the front wheel hitting a piece of tree branch on the trail to send that cyclist flying, and there would be a good chance he'd collide with anyone nearby.

Wondering what others think about this?
Personally, I regard operating in a manner that puts others at risk as d***head behavior. But I have never found a way to call somebody on it that doesn't seem like escalation. As my granddad used to say, "Before you get down in the mud to wrestle with a pig, remember, the pig lives there."
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Old 09-23-19, 12:38 PM
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Really, hands off riding?

The kids around here ride their 7/8/9 km to school every day regardless of the rain/snow/occasional sunshine/ and what have you. So many of them have their ear-buds attached and their hands - both hands - rapidly punching in whatever on their smartphones - I guess that is called texting? I do not have a smartphone just my classic/vintage Samsung flip phone so I really do not know what they are doing with that phone thing. For the most part they are totally oblivious to the world around them and I have had to occasionally, and loudly, make my presence on the bike road (fietspad) known. A few times I really woke up the hands-off rider and brought them back to the real world. There are also quite a few without the texting machine that thrive on riding with their hands behind their heads like they were relaxing on the beach somewhere. I, unfortunately, do not have the balance thing anymore to allow me to ride "hands-off". I have tried, but the old body just does not do this thing anymore.
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Old 09-23-19, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
Check your local regulations. In many jurisdictions, riding "no hands" is against the law. E.g.:

"Trick riding, including riding with no hand on the handle bars, is not allowed on any road, bicycle way, or sidewalk."

https://stevenspoint.com/640/Bicycle-Rules
I wouldn't want to live in a community that even takes the time to create local laws limiting stupid behavior like trick riding. Sheesh. Let nature take its course.
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Old 09-23-19, 01:12 PM
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I don't think these local laws are designed to limit stupid behaviors as much as they are designed to protect the innocents that too often are victims of the stupid behaviors. Your "Let nature take its course" is fine until it hurts the innocent.
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Old 09-23-19, 01:24 PM
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Old 09-23-19, 01:51 PM
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I think the bigger question is whether you say something to someone riding pants-off.
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Old 09-23-19, 02:39 PM
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The responses seem a little entitled when complaining about someone using a MUP in a way that doesn't match the writer's expectation. These paths are wonderful resources where they are available, especially in congested areas. If a teen kid is out riding a bike instead of sitting in front of a TV, then I wouldn't complain that he is riding hands free if not causing other problems. The OP saw his behavior for what, 20 seconds?
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Old 09-23-19, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sumgy View Post
Is there no end to the moaning from cyclists about just about everyone and everything?
You sound like motorists, or old people.
Bravo! Enough of nannyism! Besides, if the OP only noticed he was using no hands when he went by, OP was not watching on coming objects and riders enough.

Personally, I find cyclists blowing stop signs and red lights have more danger for me due to auto drivers resentment and blowback anger than a no hands rider that I can prepare to avoid.

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Old 09-23-19, 02:46 PM
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riding hands-off is literally an important skill to learn on a bike, if you ever need to take off or put on gloves during a group ride or something similar. it's about as "trick riding" as bunnyhopping a pothole.

these laws exist because a bunch of people complained to cops about them, because it "looks dangerous".
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Old 09-23-19, 04:01 PM
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The OP must really plotz when he sees somebody riding on the handlebars.
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Old 09-23-19, 04:16 PM
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Say something to hands off cyclist

Originally Posted by 400E View Post
So my current pet peeve when on my MUP is the occasional rider, usually a male teenager, riding towards me whom I notice as he passes that he's riding hands-off. I reflexively yell something like "Hands on the bars!" as I pass since I think it's pretty rude to ride in the vicinity of another human (pedestrian or cyclist) without full control of the bicycle. All it would take is the front wheel hitting a piece of tree branch on the trail to send that cyclist flying, and there would be a good chance he'd collide with anyone nearby.

Wondering what others think about this?
The last hands off cyclist that I saw crossed an intersection in front of me on a road when I was stopped at a light and he was texting at the time

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Old 09-23-19, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
I think the bigger question is whether you say something to someone riding pants-off.
I'm hands-off to that subject...
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Old 09-23-19, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sumgy View Post
Is there no end to the moaning from cyclists about just about everyone and everything?
You sound like motorists, or old people.
Listen here, you young whippersnapper! Some of us ARE "old people." We are experienced, devious, cunning, sneaky, underhanded, and sometimes quick to anger.
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Old 09-23-19, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lightning Pilot View Post
Listen here, you young whippersnapper! Some of us ARE "old people." We are experienced, devious, cunning, sneaky, underhanded, and sometimes quick to anger.
I must have gotten past it when I turned 51.

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My wife, age 63, rides no-handed quite a bit when we are out together. I usually point out what an inconvenience it would be should she fall, but in our 33 years riding together she rarely pays me heed. That's probably what I like about her. Hasn't fallen yet either.
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Old 09-23-19, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mad max View Post
My wife, age 63, rides no-handed quite a bit when we are out together. I usually point out what an inconvenience it would be should she fall, but in our 33 years riding together she rarely pays me heed. That's probably what I like about her. Hasn't fallen yet either.
Hah! You 'fell' for her and she 'fell' for you!
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