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View Poll Results: What PSI would you run? ENVE says 60, Conti says 80-109. Details in first post.
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65-69
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14.29%
70-74
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17.86%
75-79
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7.14%
80-84
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10.71%
85-89
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7.14%
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Poll: ENVE says 60psi, Continental says 80-109psi. What to do...

Old 10-09-19, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
So don't run tubeless. If I didn't get flats very frequently, I wouldn't. But I do. So I do.
How does tubeless help if you get attacked by wolves?
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Old 10-10-19, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
How does tubeless help if you get attacked by wolves?
1 - in some cases if you get a puncture with tublesss you don't have to stop to fix a flat - it will seal itself while you cleanly outride the pack of wolves.
2 - wolves love orange seal. If they smell it they'll rip open your tires to get it, while you make a clean getaway on foot.

Tada!
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Originally Posted by sumgy View Post
So how does tubeless help if you tear a sidewall or run over glass or a nail?
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Depends on the size of the resulting cut. In 3+ years of running tubeless, I've had three cuts that didn't permanently seal; two of those cuts totalled the tires. Tubeless obviously isn't going to help in these cases, but they're few and far between for me. What's a regular occurrence, though, are run of the mill punctures that would leave me changing a tube of the side of the road. Those have been essentially eliminated.
+1. I used to get 10-12 punctures per year from thorns(every thing that grows in Phoenix has thorns), but so far this year I've been flat free for 9890 miles,

Tires are a little more expensive, but not buying a dozen tubes and CO2 cartridges(or more) every year will help lower costs.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
so far this year I've been flat free for 9890 miles
Now youíve gone and done it.
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Old 10-10-19, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by smashndash View Post
Now youíve gone and done it.
Actually I did have one tire go flat.

The crap LB tape peeled up enough to cause a slow leak.
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Old 10-10-19, 12:03 PM
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I wonder if the ENVY warning is related to this. https://www.bicycleretailer.com/prod...g#.XZ9w4397mBY

Perhaps too much tire inflation makes the sharp edge issue worse. (OP, run your hand over the inside of the rim edge. This apparently has been quite sharp on some of their rims in the past. (The mold line from construction.)

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Old 10-10-19, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
+1. I used to get 10-12 punctures per year from thorns(every thing that grows in Phoenix has thorns), but so far this year I've been flat free for 9890 miles,

Tires are a little more expensive, but not buying a dozen tubes and CO2 cartridges(or more) every year will help lower costs.
This has pretty much been my experience, too. I got a flat a year or two ago, tire lost pressure and then sealed, I was able to add some air and continue my ride. Guess you could say I got a softie instead of a flat.

You know what really sucks? Getting a flat when it's raining and 40F, having to stop, take the wheel off, take the tire off, find the cause and deal with it, put a new tube in, get the tire back on, and put the wheel back in. By the time all that is said and done, I'm shivering, and then getting started again means being cold for the next ten minutes after I start again.
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Originally Posted by sumgy View Post
So how does tubeless help if you tear a sidewall or run over glass or a nail?
See pic - sealed with the screw in. Pulled the screw and it sealed again after I pulled it. To be safe I put a plug in but I think I could have gotten home without the plug.

Tires are 700x38 Gravel Kings on my gravel bike at about 65-70 psi.

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Old 10-10-19, 07:21 PM
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Rode 15 miles at 75 psi. I think Iím going back to 70. I didnít feel appreciably faster but I did feel a lot more of the road imperfections.
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Originally Posted by billyymc View Post
See pic - sealed with the screw in. Pulled the screw and it sealed again after I pulled it. To be safe I put a plug in but I think I could have gotten home without the plug.

Tires are 700x38 Gravel Kings on my gravel bike at about 65-70 psi.
Let's just say I am INCREDIBLY surprised as I have had punctures that size using Stans tubeless on my MTB at around 30psi, and it was a walk home.
What tubeless mix is plugging holes that big for you?
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Old 10-11-19, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sumgy View Post
Let's just say I am INCREDIBLY surprised as I have had punctures that size using Stans tubeless on my MTB at around 30psi, and it was a walk home.
What tubeless mix is plugging holes that big for you?
Orange seal - but the pic is a bit deceiving. The shaft of the screw was only about 1/8 of an inch in diameter. Not quite as dramatic as the picture would imply, but for my first puncture on tubeless I was impressed...at first I didn't even realize I had a puncture, I just heard the screw hitting the pavement with every wheel rotation.

I rode another 40 miles of mixed pavement and gravel that day. The next week on a steep gravel descent the plug I put in pulled loose (probably user error - first time plugging). I replugged it in the middle of a 30 mile ride, went home and unmounted the tire (almost brand new), washed it out with a hose, put a regular glue patch on the inside of the tire, refilled with orange seal, put a but of super glue in the hole from the outside and have ridden another 500 trouble free miles since then (although with a couple more noticeable punctures that sealed without plugging).

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