MiloFrance 

Nice to find an informative thread when researching, particularly one that's several years old and not a zombie! So how can you tell if a frame is a Billato built? The sticker? (researching this still).

sumgy

Nope.
No luck.
They read my msg and did not respond.

jamesdak 

Bummer, they've responded to me in the past using email.

Maybe try here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/437412037076241/

sumgy

Thanks for that.
Not really bothered enough to join a group just to ask the question.
Will leave it a mystery I guess.

jamesdak 

Came back to this to update with my Concorde frame. Wasn't sure who the builder was. A forum member on Paceline said it was definitely Billato built. So I posted over on the Billato owner's facebook page and Roberto Billato responded saying they did make it. So I'm added this bike to this thread to help others searching in the future.




I'm also throwing in a completed picture of the last Giordana I've had built up. This one turned out really sweet and the few rides I got in on it before the snows began were quite fun.

nomadmax 

This 87-88 Billato built Guerciotti SL will be back on the road come spring

velogimp

I purchased a 1987 or 1988 (I think) Greg Lemond frame on eBay ten or twelve years ago and built the bike using a variety of Super Record (rear derailleur and seat post), Record (crank and Italian thread bottom bracket). New Record shift leavers, Chorus brakes, Mavic wheels laced to Dura Ace hubs with six speed cluster, Cinelli bars, Speedplay zero pedals, and Vetta saddle. I like to ride this bike, so I did not want to compromise on braking power, gear range, or the pedals that I use on my other bikes. I have other, more period correct components that I can use if I want to enter a vintage event. This appears from the decals to be a frame that Billato built for Lemond as a tribute to his 1986 Tour de France win, since there is no mention on the decals of more recent wins. I was trying to include photos but, since I have not yet posted ten messages on this forum, I appear to be prevented from doing so.

velogimp

I am up to nine posts on this forum, so if I post this short statement, I should be able to post photos on my next posting? I will give it a try.

velogimp

Here is my Billato built Lemond as described above.

jamesdak 

^ Wow!!!!!!! Red, White, and Blue and a Billato built Lemond. The Trifecta!

I would LOVE to find one of these in my size. I am so envious.

Charles Wahl

The (probably) Billato frame that I have is another Ten Speed Drive Guerciotti, the GLX (SLX) model from 1984, with chromed fork and mostly chrome chain stays on both sides -- unremarkable compared to a lot of the beautiful stuff pictured, but the attention to detail is about the best in my stable, for sure. Slightly better than a 1984 Motobécane Team Champion (last year for French manufacture, which is still blingier because the whole rear end is chromed, along with the fork) and equal to a 1983 Serotta Club Special. Funny that all 3 of these are from 1983-1984, and are the newest ones in my collection. I guess that's my personal high-water mark for "manufacturing excellence", though I do have older ones that are, it has to be said, have and show more "hand craft" (basically all of English origin) dating back through the 70s to the 50s.

Steel Charlie

This maybe Billato, maybe Mondonico from +/-1987
Whatever it is I love it

Snowflake6

Just picked this up a couple of weeks ago. It's an early 1980's Cramerotti. Guissepe Cramerotti was an Italian racer who retired to Canada and opened a shop called La Bicicletta in Vancouver, BC. He had frames made by Billato in Italy, then finished them here in Canada and sold them under his own Cramerotti brand. They were medium- to high-end bikes, depending on the model. This is a medium-level bike, i'm guessing. It came to me with a mishmash of components, Campagnolo hubs, 105 RD, Campagnolo FD, Record downtube shifters, and Modelo brakes and levers. A friend had a complete Campagnolo Chorus groupset so i'm going to rebuild it with that.

Full album:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wt4pdVy2e831yocX7

Snowflake6

Status report on the Cramerotti... Campagnolo set fully disassembled, cleaned, polished, re-assembled, and installed. Found the seatpost that came with the set is a Record/Super Record post and 27.2mm dia, and I need 26.6. Found a 26.6 Chorus post on eBay that matches the rest of the components so picked that up... Awaiting its arrival now. Frame sandblasted and powdercoated in gunmetal metallic grey... The colour came out way better than I had hoped.