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New road bikes w/ downtube shifters and straight top tubes?

Old 10-06-20, 08:02 PM
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Oh, and forgot to mention that if OP were to tell us their preferred frame size, budget and location, they could have lots of suitors knockin' on their door...
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Great suggestions, and a number that I don't know of. As always, there is custom--build whatever you want! Aside from that, I think finding a frameset that you really like, in solid (internal condition), and repaint and re-decal that into a mint-looking ride.
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Franklin Frames in Ohio will make most any style frame you like I think, really nice custom workmanship
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Old 10-06-20, 11:40 PM
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Masi is also having product shortages, but they make a pretty nice replica.
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Old 10-07-20, 12:23 AM
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I think Soma road frames still take DT shifters.

Their top tubes are not exactly horizontal, but close to it.
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Old 10-07-20, 04:05 AM
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The Marinoni SL is pretty cool.

I think it has downtube braze-ons.

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Old 10-07-20, 04:21 AM
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Market forces....

Both the noun and verb.

There's not a lot of demand for DT shifters in case one wanted to make a living on them; the supply chain is a fractured web.
The time when DT cable stops are no longer available (new) is approaching. They will become scarce and then none.

I imagine it's fairly difficult to sell a relatively heavy steel bike to a niche market, especially at a cost competitive with a myriad of other options.
"Steel" represents a different thought process to many people these days. Were I to build frames, I'd try to use recycled steel if possible.

While there's interest in what the OP mentions, it's not backed by a proletarian planet-wide pocketbook push.
In a world fueled by forces striving to separate you from what money you have, some choices don't make it.

Market forces.
Both the noun and verb.

That doesn't mean an '88 Ironman with 10-sp DA downtube shifters, an external-cup BB, light crankset and modern stem, bars, saddle, wheels, etc is not a rocket. It will be the Van Halen (RIP) of your group, the star in the lower sky, the highest of the mid-hanging fruit, everyman's fulfilment of speed and motion in an economical and pragmatic attack on market forces. You build, you ride, you overcome, you amaze your friends, woo the undecided, and dominate the world before you, heightened in stature and endowment.

Yep, straight top tube, DT shifters. Ironman.
(YMMV)

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Old 10-07-20, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
I think Soma road frames still take DT shifters.
Their top tubes are not exactly horizontal, but close to it.
Stanyan comes to mind.
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Old 10-07-20, 11:24 AM
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You might like this vintage inspired road bike by State:

https://www.statebicycle.com/collect...-green-8-speed

A few different colors are available.
I saw someone with that same green retro road bike by State at the park the other day. It’s really beautiful in person.

I wonder if we are about to see increased demand and then increased production of vintage style new parts and new bikes. The pandemic-fueled bike demand has forced so many vintage bikes back onto the roads. At least in my city I see them mostly used by young people; a whole new generation is discovering vintage road bikes. They’re everywhere. Given millennials and zoomers’ general love of vintage things/style and interest in non-disposable well crafted items that last I think these events will change things.

When I was in high school, not much music was being released on new vinyl records and they were pretty scarce. The market was mostly just used LPs. New were either cheap and ****ty or a small number of super high end models. Nowadays almost everything comes out on new vinyl and there is a much, much wider market of really good quality turntables and equipment at a variety of price points.
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Originally Posted by evwxxx View Post
Franklin Frames in Ohio will make most any style frame you like I think, really nice custom workmanship

Speaking of....

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One could easily "upgrade" to DT shifters.
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Old 10-07-20, 11:42 AM
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$550.00 for this bike seems like a bargain assuming it will last as long as some of the vintage bikes we all love...

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Old 10-07-20, 01:30 PM
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Condor Classico Road, lugged (28.6mm ST, 1" steerer, threaded)
https://www.condorcycles.com/collect...-road-frameset



Condor Classico Stainless, fillet brazed (SS fork & rear triangle, 31.8mm ST, 1-1/8" steerer, threadless)
https://www.condorcycles.com/collect...nless-frameset
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Old 10-07-20, 03:43 PM
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What's the fun in buying a new frame?

The hunter gatherer in me wants to search for that elusive vintage grail bike.
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Originally Posted by branko_76 View Post
ah yes, the $2,800 "push-me-pull-you"

By “push me pull you” do you mean that it’s really heavy? I’ve never used a Rivendell, so I have no idea.
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Originally Posted by Bicicletta89 View Post
By “push me pull you” do you mean that it’s really heavy? I’ve never used a Rivendell, so I have no idea.
I think that was referring to the disembodied hands in the picture.
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Originally Posted by Bicicletta89 View Post
By “push me pull you” do you mean that it’s really heavy? I’ve never used a Rivendell, so I have no idea.
in the photo there are two hands having a tug-of-war with it
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Originally Posted by therearegoats View Post
All,

Does anyone know of any manufacturers out there that still make classic road bikes with down-tube shifters and straight top tubes? I know Bianchi does, but I'm looking for something a bit cheaper. I'll build my own one of these days, but time is lacking right now.

Thanks a bunch,
Robert
Robert, just curious why you would want one? i have been riding one all summer and like the simplicity, and it just has a 6 speed rear tranny, more than enuf for flat landers. the bike i ride is an old trek 1000, simple everything and no worry about expensive brifter breaking.
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Originally Posted by branko_76 View Post
in the photo there are two hands having a tug-of-war with it
Lol! Didn't even notice the hands.
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Originally Posted by therearegoats View Post
All,

Does anyone know of any manufacturers out there that still make classic road bikes with down-tube shifters and straight top tubes? I know Bianchi does, but I'm looking for something a bit cheaper. I'll build my own one of these days, but time is lacking right now.

Thanks a bunch,
Robert
Marinoni sells both frames as well as complete bikes with a wide range of components. I think the prices might be in Canadian dollars, even! I'm not allowed to post the URL, but look for the SL model under the road bikes tab.
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MARINONI - Columbus tubes

Several people have mentioned MARINONI and I selected the MARINONI SL (Columbus Tubing) for my build after looking at the Bianchi Eroica. Cycles Marinoni Inc. - SL

The choice was influenced by the fact I am Canadian and the bike is manufactured in Montreal, QC, Canada and a custom build and paint is available.
Any build will use current groups (brifters - not DT shifters) from Campagnolo or Shimano. If you wish to be vintage and "Eroica" compliant you will have to search for the proper wheels, pedals, brake levers and DT shifters (Dia-Compe) etc.
I did choose this route as I wished to have a bicycle that would be safe, problem free and be mine. I used my LBS for the build, the only disadvantage is the restricted tire size (27 mm).

My build used vintage (1980's) Campagnolo SR brakes, levers, pedals) with modern Campagnolo Potenza drive train,
silver polish for stem, bars & seat post (DedaElementi) with Brooks saddle and bar tape,
wheelset used Ambrosio MONTREAL tubular rims laced to Campagnolo Chorus hubs.

After this I did find an 2000's MARINONI 'touring' frame of Columbus SPX which allows for 35 mm tires to give me two fantastic steel rides.
Turas Mor 2018
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Originally Posted by branko_76 View Post
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$550.00 for this bike seems like a bargain assuming it will last as long as some of the vintage bikes we all love...

What brand is that? Edit: I realized this is the State brand mentioned in a previous post. I think it is very attractive.
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That State bike pictured in the previous post has a straight fork, without the bend which acts like a spring and contributes to the comfort and pleasure of riding a steel frame.
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You could just keep your eyes peeled, for a Bianchi in your budget. 🤔😁😉 Not every day, but nice deals are out there. 🙂
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That State bike pictured in the previous post has a straight fork, without the bend which acts like a spring and contributes to the comfort and pleasure of riding a steel frame.
Nothing in this world is perfect. Some focus on the 98% while others focus on the 2%.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Nothing in this world is perfect. Some focus on the 98% while others focus on the 2%.
So true! Every bike is going to have something that isn’t ideal. Even a custom bike will have compromises surely. Just get one you like and enjoy it!
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