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Road Cycling ďIt is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.Ē -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 02-27-21, 03:51 PM
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I got rained on, but getting outside was worth it.
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I see a bright future for the mighty Owls. The YSU Penguins? Not so much.
Wow, those are really low scoring basketball games.
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FWIW, after credits and dealer discounts a buddy of mine paid less for his eTron than he did his Honda Pilot. I think after accounting for the tax credit he got it for 50
with taxpayer and shareholder subsidies present, it shows the E car is not ready for prime time.
Someday.
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Hah!! He does. End result below.


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Wow, those are really low scoring basketball games.
Spring football. It's the future. Try to keep up.
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Ah, what a relief to ride outside without the studs. It was like a weight had been lifted!

Ended up meeting up with a few of the guys for a short ride, which was nice, too.
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The tax credit can really make a difference - up to $7,500 on EVs and PHEVs. But, the credit you get is limited by the income tax you owe for the year of purchase. So, if the car qualifies for the $7,500 credit, but your tax liability for that year is only $5,000, your credit is limited to $5,000.

Plus, the credits ends after a manufacturer sells 200,000 EV/PHEVs. So, itís no longer available for Teslaís and will expire in March for GM products.

Iím really curious about the base Taycan. Base price is $79,000 but with that brand the options kill you. With the credit it still might be attractive. Iím going to see what the year brings, and may take a look at them at some point. But, Iím sure my wife will tell me itís her turn next, and it would be unwise to argue.
I have a hard time justifying spending over 50 on a car. The next phrantic family truckster is likely to be something of the MDX, Highlander, XC90, Pilot, Ascent variety (or if I get my way a shaggin wagon V60 x-country).

I looked at some of the info on the VW ID.4, but Iím not super thrilled with the quality of some parts on my Passat and am not sure Iíd get another one.
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with taxpayer and shareholder subsidies present, it shows the E car is not ready for prime time.
Someday.
Now do oil and gas subsidies and tax breaks.
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Ah, what a relief to ride outside without the studs. It was like a weight had been lifted!.
How much weight?
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The BB has arrived, and the Cannondale has been dropped off at the LBS for the BB & crank swap. The owner said, "Sure, I can do that! The thing is, timing. Can you leave it till Tuesday?" I reassured him I knew this wasn't a drop-in kind of job.

I also received the official Shimano FD bracket - they sold 31.8mm brackets to mount braze-on derailleurs, for bikes with oversize tubes. So far, so good. The thing is, the seat tube on the Cannondale 3.0 road frame is not directly in line with the center of the BB, but rather well forward of center. So, I'm going to have to make some kind of shim so the cage of the derailleur is correctly aligned with the chainring. I figure, as much Coke as Mrs. GeneJockey and The Younger Boy drink, I should be able to find the raw material somewhere.....
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How much weight?
Enough that I feel merely too fat for this sport.
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Now do oil and gas subsidies and tax breaks.
for every gallon of gas sold the feds get 18.3 cents per gallon and 24.3 cents per gallon for diesel. States get even more, it varies but usually in the 30 cents per gallon range. PA has one of the highest at 58.7/gallon and 75.2 for diesel.

Every E car costs the government if there is a tax credit.

Tax policies are what they are but oil companies make money so they pay taxes. Tesla made money last year and I'm shocked they did but they have a 5 Billion dollar accumulated loss. No taxes being paid for a while.
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Enough that I feel merely too fat for this sport.
They have a weight, which a proper weight weenie would know.
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States get even more, it varies but usually in the 30 cents per gallon range. PA has one of the highest at 58.7/gallon and 75.2 for diesel.
How much is Missouri's? To the tenth of a cent.
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How much is Missouri's? To the tenth of a cent.

I'm done with this nonsense.
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I'm done with this nonsense.
You're the one who brought it up. LOL
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They have a weight, which a proper weight weenie would know.
Oh, you mean the actual tire and wheel weight difference? Dunno, but that's not the most significant difference - it's the fact that those studded tires roll like octagons.
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I remember when gas used to be cheaper when I went south of the border (GA). Haven't been down there in a while, but it looks like that may no longer be the case.
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$20 Billion in subsidies to the fossil fuel industry annually. in the US alone, so there's that. Sure, lithium mining ain't so clean, but here's two words: Exxon Valdez. Here's two more: Deepwater Horizon. You pays your money and you takes your choice.

The point is that everything being said about electric cars not being ready for consumers was perfectly true maybe 6 or 7 years ago. But not so much now.
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I remember when gas used to be cheaper when I went south of the border (GA). Haven't been down there in a while, but it looks like that may no longer be the case.
Prices are lower than they were 12 years ago.
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I'm done with this nonsense.
I remember when Oregon's was 10 cents less than Washington's. I would drive over to Vancouver every Sunday to fill up the car and take a little scenic Sunday drive.
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3 of us did 70 miles with 4K climbing. It was so windy at the start I almost said no. Felt dangerous until we climbed over into the next valley, then it was just windy but nice. Traffic seemed light and there weren't that many cyclists out, either. We did see some riders going the other direction waiting for a friend. We rode on to see of we could help, turns out he was on an e-bike that had no e. Nothing we could do and he was between a descent and a climb. Time to call AAA.
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Yes, I heard. If I had that kind of change I would still opt for the Toyota version so as not to be in the company of the beemer snobs.
BMWs are fun cars to drive but BMW people certainly do have a bad rep:



Pardon me, coming through.
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Prices are lower than they were 12 years ago.
Sadly I did not have the option to time travel to buy petro.
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I would drive over to Vancouver every Sunday to fill up the car and take a little scenic Sunday drive.
Wow, times have changed. When I was in Canada we took a scenic drive south of the border to fill up.
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Sadly I did not have the option to time travel to buy petro.
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