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Old 01-16-21, 04:04 PM
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My boss gave me this old rotten, faded bike that somebody had abandoned on his property. After after a lot of rubbing compound was applied, we discovered that it was a hand made Ron Cooper from the 1970s.
I rode it in the MS150 a while back (after my "good" bike busted a wheel a few days before). I later made it a fixie before selling it.

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I finally got one. I had an Armstrong and a Hercules, both converted 3-speeds, years ago, but now I have a real road bike.

Above, as received. Just-my-size 55cm C-T 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse, full double-butted Reynolds 531. Current condition as the frame-up restoration begins:

(Slow) progress to date: threw away (rotted) tires and rim strips, (Schrader) tubes, cut out spokes, gave away (steel 27") rims, located 18mm aluminum 700C rims, straightened rear dropout, verified 126mm (yaa!) OLD
Threw out old Weinmann brake pads, bought KoolStop (accept no substitutes) Continentals
Next: figure out spoke length, build wheels, rebuild BB (keeping Sugino crankset), select chainring sizes (leaning toward 46-43) and freewheel cog count (6 or 7) and sizes (13 to 26, 28, maybe 30 at most). Looking at 32 to 35mm 700C touring tires.
I am inclined to keep the (OEM??) Campag. downtube shift levers and Weinmann 999 brakeset, and of course the Brooks Swallow saddle.
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My 1968 Raleigh.
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Still no identification on this bike other than it's British, and it's from the late 40s or 50s. I built up the frame so no parts are original. Any guesses?




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Carlton tentatively identified as a Team BMB from 1967
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Still no identification on this bike other than it's British, and it's from the late 40s or 50s. I built up the frame so no parts are original. Any guesses?



That sure looks like my Carlton -- same head lugs and seat cluster, Campag. braze-ons for downtube shift, same rear dropouts, same rear brake cable guides. The only differences I can see are my chromed rear triangle and fork and the tops of the seat stays. Does yours have a serial number on the left rear dropout? Need a head tube decal? I recently received two reproduction decals from a chap in the U.K.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
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Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
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My 1968 Raleigh.
Ah yes -- I remember those dual-control 5-speed Sturmey hubs and the big stick shift levers.
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That sure looks like my Carlton -- same head lugs and seat cluster, Campag. braze-ons for downtube shift, same rear dropouts, same rear brake cable guides. The only differences I can see are my chromed rear triangle and fork and the tops of the seat stays. Does yours have a serial number on the left rear dropout? Need a head tube decal? I recently received two reproduction decals from a chap in the U.K.
They do look similar. Mine did have the chrome rear triangle and fork but the chrome was beyond saving so I had them paint over it. It had just a drive side shifter so I had it changed to accept Campag on both sides. The fork is Accles & Pollock and is stamped with the same serial as the bb which is 95112 with a 7 under it. Here's a video one of our bf member @jjhabbs made of the bike. His own collection is amazing.

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They do look similar. Mine did have the chrome rear triangle and fork but the chrome was beyond saving so I had them paint over it. It had just a drive side shifter so I had it changed to accept Campag on both sides. The fork is Accles & Pollock and is stamped with the same serial as the bb which is 95112 with a 7 under it. Here's a video one of our bf members made of the bike. His own collection is amazing.https://youtu.be/4OSjn4tx6jU
I think the serial number rules out Carlton, but I'll let some of our experts on British bikes weigh in. At least in the 1960s, Carlton stamped the serial numbers into the left dropout. I am told my Kxxxx denotes a 1962 build.
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Oh what a door has been opened with this thread.

Here are some of the Raleighs... I have several other bicycles from other makers also.


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Originally Posted by surveyor6 View Post
My boss gave me this old rotten, faded bike that somebody had abandoned on his property. After after a lot of rubbing compound was applied, we discovered that it was a hand made Ron Cooper from the 1970s.
I rode it in the MS150 a while back (after my "good" bike busted a wheel a few days before). I later made it a fixie before selling it.

That's a pisser - I lusted after a Ron Cooper for ages but never had the $. That one even looks close to my size
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Here's the Super Tourer which has been my go-to winter bike. Absolutely in love with the thing- still need to get it repaired (it now has a seat tube dent from a bike shop mishap) once I start riding my road bikes again.


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British? You mean like this one? 1982ish Ron Cooper. As pictured, Campy 10sp triple drivetrain.




It currently has a 7sp triple friction drivetrain (mix 'n' match, Suntour VGx RD) and Suntour brakes. I rode it in the 2019 Eroica California Pedro Blancas route (pictured below with kabuki12). Fantastic bike.

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Mrs 400's 1987 Raleigh Granada Lady. The rare step-thru 531 framed bike. I understand that not many of these were imported from England.

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That's a pisser - I lusted after a Ron Cooper for ages but never had the $. That one even looks close to my size
I couldn't afford A Cooper either. I am on more of a Fuji or KHS budget.
-The steel road bike I wanted but never could afford was the Gilmore, made in Arizona. They had these little Thunderbird cutouts in the lugs. Not Brittish,though.

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I couldn't afford A Cooper either. I am on more of a Fuji or KHS budget.
-The steel road bike I wanted but never could afford was the Gilmore, made in Arizona. They had these little Thunderbird cutouts in the lugs. Not Brittish,though.
They're readily available out here. Two or three on Tucson/Phoenix CL at any given time. He's still building bikes too -- but a new one is well out of my price range. Also it's Gilmour, which should aid your search.
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Yes, Gilmour. When I would google his bike frames, It gave me Articles about David Gilmour of Pink Floyd.
He wrote "Shine On You Crazy Diamond".
I came pretty close to buying a used Gilmour frame at the Tucson swap meet one year, but I needed to pay off some stuff first.
-I really looked forward to the Tucson bike swap every year, though I lived in the Phoenix area.
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Originally Posted by sheddle View Post
Here's the Super Tourer which has been my go-to winter bike. Absolutely in love with the thing- still need to get it repaired (it now has a seat tube dent from a bike shop mishap) once I start riding my road bikes again.

WOW! Kudos on keeping it original. That frame color is incredibly unique -- wish I'd been able to save the paint on mine when it took on a new life:
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My 73/4 Falcon San Remo. Have some NOS Universal brake hoods coming from Italy although Im beginning to wonder if they are walking over....





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72 Mercian . Nice enough but too small for me .Should move it on
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Harry Quinn,,built in 1973. The name speaks for itself.
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I collect bikes from Birmingham that begin with the letter D.

First one is Dunelt

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Oh what a door has been opened with this thread.

Here are some of the Raleighs... I have several other bicycles from other makers also.


Im going out on a limb here by guessing you are single.
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Im going out on a limb here by guessing you are single.
That would be an incorrect guess.

Several of those are my wife's bicycles.
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