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Old 02-11-21, 12:16 PM
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Texans canít drive in winter weather!

Pile ups everywhere just watch the news. Iím not driving anywhere too many crazy Texas drivers! I will have fun covering pipes and breaking the ice on the cow water tank with a hammer. Lower teens by Mon and Tue... Iím use to 102-103 degree weather drinking a cold beer in the shade in front of an industrial fan. This cold is barbaric .. I remember walking to school in blizzards in Ohio but at that time that is all I knew. I guess this year we will get a taste of real winter. Now I understand why we have so many winter Texans.
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Old 02-11-21, 12:38 PM
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Buck up, Buttercup. It's supposed to get up to a hi of 10F here today in the land of cheese and beer. On the bright side, not a mosquito in sight.
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Yeah, seems at least 100 drivers on 1-35 found out about ice on the roads this morning. Last I heard there were a few fatalities. The police say it will take all day to clean it up. No smiles on this, MH
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Lol we're looking at lows to -20įf over this weekend and highs below 0. Can't wait till March. Got the bike at the LBS right now for the tune-up; it cracks 30į and I'll be out.
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Old 02-11-21, 01:22 PM
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In college, I had an engineering co-op job in Fort Worth on alternate semesters. Even though I was driving a CJ-5, I would not drive anywhere when the occasional ice/snow storm hit, because I did not want to present a target to those idiot TX drivers.

It seemed like they just couldn't grasp that if slippery surfaces made it difficult to accelerate, they just...might...also make it difficult to brake. So they would drive at the same speed as when the road was dry, and apply the brakes way too late. I would watch the local news and be endlessly entertained by the local film crews capturing the fools playing 'bumper car" with each other.
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Not sure they needed the red circle, but...

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Originally Posted by skijor View Post
Buck up, Buttercup. It's supposed to get up to a hi of 10F here today in the land of cheese and beer. On the bright side, not a mosquito in sight.

...good time to look around at your friends, and say, "Thank god there are no poisonous snakes here, eh ?"
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Old 02-11-21, 01:48 PM
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Yíall (or is it all-yíall) get it bad down there. Seriously mean black ice, limited highway crews, no snow tires, and probably not many with 4wd. Here in Montana weíre ready for it but we still see some nasty pile-ups (maybe itís all those TX and CA transplants). I have studded snow tires all around on the winter vehicles and still drive like a grandpa.

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Old 02-11-21, 02:01 PM
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basically no normal driver/ car handles well when the road turns into a sheet of ice. here in Texas, snow is extremely rare and when we do get some, its mostly ICE. it's almost never softly, fluffy, crunchy snow like where i grew up in the Midwest, but the roads turn into a skating rink first, then if we're lucky, some snow starts falling so there's something fun to do while work and school are canceled. but most of the time, we just get ice.

fortunately I have not had to drive to work in almost a year. I'm looking out my window right now and the trees in my yard have magical, treacherous ice coating them. no snow, just slick AF ice on everything. give it another day and I wont be able to make a snowman, nor will I be able to walk through my backyard and stay upright.

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Old 02-11-21, 03:45 PM
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Not equipped for icy weather here no infrastructure. Most schools will close and that is a smart move. Actually some snow would be cool but only for a day or two.
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Old 02-11-21, 03:52 PM
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I have news for you Hondo, Texans don't drive well in the spring summer and fall too.
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Old 02-11-21, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by no motor? View Post
I have news for you Hondo, Texans don't drive well in the spring summer and fall too.
yup with the speed limit at 80 mph and the toll roads are 85 mph which really means 90-95 ...... too much makeup woman in a Mercedes on the toll roads at 110 mph never ends up good. Then crazy Bubba too fast rolling over his pickup at 100 mph ... I top out at 90 mph to stay safe.
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Old 02-11-21, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
basically no normal driver/ car handles well when the road turns into a sheet of ice. here in Texas, snow is extremely rare and when we do get some, its mostly ICE. it's almost never softly, fluffy, crunchy snow like where i grew up in the Midwest, but the roads turn into a skating rink first, then if we're lucky, some snow starts falling so there's something fun to do while work and school are canceled. but most of the time, we just get ice.

fortunately I have not had to drive to work in almost a year. I'm looking out my window right now and the trees in my yard have magical, treacherous ice coating them. no snow, just slick AF ice on everything. give it another day and I wont be able to make a snowman, nor will I be able to walk through my backyard and stay upright.
I'll bet there's just no road prep. Here in the heart of Ohio, Interstates get brine before winter conditions, along with arterials and secondaries. After the white stuff starts, the plows can get the snow off because of the prep, and throw down rock salt as they go to prevent refreezing. Freezing fog is the nastiest, since untreated surfaces get a layer of black ice, but the brine on the streets will keep it from crystallizing.
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Old 02-11-21, 04:22 PM
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I mentioned the story before of having my '77 Impala with full set of studded snows in Houston in the late 80s during a 'close the city down' ice storm - everything covered in a sheet of ice. Took it out to dinner with friends and we were the only moving vehicle on the loop with cars stuck on the sides and the middle free for us to travel.
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Old 02-11-21, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam View Post
I'll bet there's just no road prep. Here in the heart of Ohio, Interstates get brine before winter conditions, along with arterials and secondaries. After the white stuff starts, the plows can get the snow off because of the prep, and throw down rock salt as they go to prevent refreezing. Freezing fog is the nastiest, since untreated surfaces get a layer of black ice, but the brine on the streets will keep it from crystallizing.
They salt the overpasses and bridges. But because this happens only once every few years, they don't keep a Midwest-style army of trucks and supplies around to do everything. I don't know why the roadways where the worst pileups were happening today were open at all though.
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Originally Posted by chewybrian View Post
Not sure they needed the red circle, but...

Aerial photos show its on a car carrier which is what I figured. Does look scary from online video.

I think the lack of snow driving is just a southern thing. I remember showing up at a friend's place in Feb in WV, I'd driven through a NY snow storm and through PA where the storm was still continuing so when I hit WV I just figured the plows were slow and lazy but at least the traffic was non-existent so I could actually do the speed limit without worrying about it. Got to her house and discovered they'd actually declared a snow emergency and closed all the highways, if that much snow was an issue I'd have never left home all winter in central NY.
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I remember driving south of Ft Worth to see a client a few times in winters in the late-1990s/early 2000s. One of our office staff was from there and mentioned to pay attention to the speed signs and SLOW DOWN when driving on those highway bridges that go over the creeks. When the nightime temp drops below freezing the moisture in the air settles on the bridges and freezes into ice (roads built on dirt stay warm enough from daytime sun heating that the moisture doesn't freeze). Damned if I didn't see at least a few spin-outs and accidents when I was driving down there.
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Aerial photos show its on a car carrier which is what I figured. Does look scary from online video.

I think the lack of snow driving is just a southern thing. I remember showing up at a friend's place in Feb in WV, I'd driven through a NY snow storm and through PA where the storm was still continuing so when I hit WV I just figured the plows were slow and lazy but at least the traffic was non-existent so I could actually do the speed limit without worrying about it. Got to her house and discovered they'd actually declared a snow emergency and closed all the highways, if that much snow was an issue I'd have never left home all winter in central NY.
Having spent plenty of time in Appalachia, I'd forgive WV for closing highways in significant snow. Some of the hills and downhill curves will render all-season tires and brakes useless in bad conditions, and it could be a while before help comes.
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Our county has one sand truck and they rarely get to use it. We get below freezing temps at night 6 - 10 times a year in most winters, but almost never accompanied by rain/snow/sleet. We've only had icy roads once in the last 20 years. But every couple of years the forecast says it might happen and they get out and sand the heck out of the bridges. You have to be careful riding over them for the next week.
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Nebraskans are the worst, though, you gotta admit...
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Would this be a good time to mention that I had to turn the A/C back on this week?
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To be fair, even a large number of native Chicagoans drive like idiots the second any sort of precipitation hits. Usually the type of people who complain about the cold despite having lived here their entire lives.
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Old 02-13-21, 09:15 AM
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BTW, this is the most severe winter weather Texas has seen since 1989. that's over 30 years. the infrastructure, the drivers, the cars, etc are not remotely prepared for this. six people died in that crash in Fort Worth a few days ago, so I'm glad all of you are having a good chuckle about it.

related: the trees are not built for this either. i'm seeing lots of photos of sagging and shattered trees. as a result, many people I know lost power all night Thursday. when you have no power, you have no central heating. when it's 30į, that's a cold, cold night. hopefully your home holds some warmth in long enough for you to rough it while the linemen freeze their asses off outside trying to fix it. thankfully, mine has not gone out yet, but several people who live within five miles of me lost power for most of the day or night on Thursday.

on a less severe note, the local mountain biking community has big plans to not ride, but spend the next week or two clearing the trails. downed trees everywhere are blocking singletrack.

it's about to get colder, dipping into single digits Monday and Tuesday. this kind of weather happens VERY rarely for the average person's lifetime in Texas. This is going to be a rough week for us and I expect many more deaths in traffic and from exposure to the cold for which people here are not prepared.

in typical Texas fashion, it will be about 70į next weekend.
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Agree. If it was in the low 30s or even high 20s at night that would be OK even without heat. But getting into the teens and single digits is bad when daytime highs are in the low 30s.
It was '89 storm where I had studded snows in Houston. I grew up in rural New England and was very good at driving on ice, especially with studs.
Our relatives in Austin are concerned.
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