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Tax Refund=New Bike...what do you think?

Old 01-20-09, 10:02 PM
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Tax Refund=New Bike...what do you think?

A very good friend of mine owns a bike shop near me, and I almost always go to him for purchases...his shop is where I bought my Marin Muirwoods commuter bike, which I am very happy with.

I am looking to get on a mid level road bike, and he sells KHS brand bikes. He has offered me a discount on a 2008 KHS Flite 500, which he normally sells for a little over a grand, for 700 dollars. I have researched them and they seem like good bikes, but I can't get a review online anywhere...

It has carbon chain stays, fork, and seat post...the rest is double butted aluminum. I am going to test ride tomorrow probably, but I won't purchase until I get my tax refund.

What do you guys think of this bike?

https://www.khsbicycles.com/05_flite_500_08.htm
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Old 01-20-09, 11:06 PM
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Tax Refund = Pay Off Credit cards and put towards wedding if there is anything left.
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Tax Refund = Pay Off Credit cards and put towards wedding if there is anything left.
+1 coming from someone who did just that and still had to put half his wedding on credit.
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Tax Refund = I.O.U. if you live in CA
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Sounds like a good deal. One thing you may want to consider - Tektro brakes don't come with very good pads. Upgrade to Kool-Stops and you should be fine. It's a very inexpensive upgrade.

Congratulations on your weight loss - that's quite a feat!
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I think that, since you are into loaning your money out interest-free, next year you should loan it to me.
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Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
Tax Refund = I.O.U. if you live in CA
I know Funny, too, because they charge you a $2 "fee" if you owe them money (because they didn't get to make interest off of it) but I doubt they will give you any compensation for keeping your money. I wish I could send them my return with an invoice for $2 extra
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I have that bike and I don't have any complaints. Although if I could go back in time I would have saved up $1200-ish and bought a bike with at least a 105 groupset. Unfortunately I didn't realize that I would take to road cycling as much as I did so I chose not to spend that much on my first new bike.



I don't want to offer too much of a review because I have so little to compare it to but feel free to ask any specific questions that you might have.
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Originally Posted by dysFTP View Post
I think that, since you are into loaning your money out interest-free, next year you should loan it to me.

You do realize people are buying negative yield treasury bills right?

I give ~$20 more on each paycheck than claiming 0 so I dont spend it on bike shwagg... if more americans did that.. or other forms of actually saving money we would have a lot less problems.
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Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
Tax Refund = I.O.U. if you live in CA
Of course this only applies to your state return.


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for an entry level bike it looks good. I have heard fine things about the microshift shifters. for 500 with that much carbon go for it.
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Tax Refund = Bike shwag = Good for the economy

Unless you are drowning in debt and/or losing your home to foreclosure, save up a bit more like the others have said and get a bike with at least a 105 group. Don't want to sound like such a shill here, but do look at Bikes Direct. For the same amount of money, you can get a much better bike with better components. If you can save up just an additional $195 on top of that $700, you can get one of these.

https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/.../falkirkIX.htm

I personally think the specs on this bike is far better than the KHS offering AND you get Ultegra! Free shipping and no sales tax. Both my bikes are mail order too and I love em!
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Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
Tax Refund = I.O.U. if you live in CA
That's just the rumor, but only covers your California State Income tax (not Federal). You'll still get your Federal money.
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How much would it be to just replace the stock stuff with 105 or Ultrega, or better yet Dura Ace?
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Bernanke approves of your choice. Spend spend spend.

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I wouldn't. It's been said, but I would try to get something with 105 or even full tiagra.
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What is the reasoning behind wanting 105 or even full tiagra? Is there anything wrong with the flite 500 set up?
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Originally Posted by metalchef87 View Post
What is the reasoning behind wanting 105 or even full tiagra? Is there anything wrong with the flite 500 set up?
This is something you need to experience yourself. Ask your friend if you can try out a few of the bikes in his shop so you can feel the difference. Then you can decide if it's money well spent.
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I have a 2002 KHS flight 500. I perfectly think that it is worth the money for entry level. My bike is still going strong for only having Sora stuff. It shifts well for a triple crank. It is what got me to buy a higher end bike. I plan to upgrade my components on the KHS because I love the feel of the steel and it is a basic classic design. It will be my heavy fun thrasher bike.
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I don't know. I've never tried anything but 105 (except for two very brief occasions), but I might be worried about reliability if your plan on really riding this thing.
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Originally Posted by neo****zy View Post
Tax Refund = Bike shwag = Good for the economy

Unless you are drowning in debt and/or losing your home to foreclosure, save up a bit more like the others have said and get a bike with at least a 105 group. Don't want to sound like such a shill here, but do look at Bikes Direct. For the same amount of money, you can get a much better bike with better components. If you can save up just an additional $195 on top of that $700, you can get one of these.

https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/.../falkirkIX.htm

I personally think the specs on this bike is far better than the KHS offering AND you get Ultegra! Free shipping and no sales tax. Both my bikes are mail order too and I love em!
Wrong answer for a n00b with a good LBS.

Originally Posted by metalchef87 View Post
A very good friend of mine owns a bike shop near me, and I almost always go to him for purchases...his shop is where I bought my Marin Muirwoods commuter bike, which I am very happy with.

I am looking to get on a mid level road bike, and he sells KHS brand bikes. He has offered me a discount on a 2008 KHS Flite 500, which he normally sells for a little over a grand, for 700 dollars. I have researched them and they seem like good bikes, but I can't get a review online anywhere...

It has carbon chain stays, fork, and seat post...the rest is double butted aluminum. I am going to test ride tomorrow probably, but I won't purchase until I get my tax refund.

What do you guys think of this bike?

https://www.khsbicycles.com/05_flite_500_08.htm
I'm underwhelmed at that price. The carbon seatpost is probably carbon-wrapped aluminum which is more cosmetic than functional. Carbon stays are a bit gimicky as well. The components are all pretty generic. See what he can do for you on a Flite 720.
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Well I have around 700 dollars to spend...what do you recommend?
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Originally Posted by metalchef87 View Post
Well I have around 700 dollars to spend...what do you recommend?
Go test ride bikes like the Trek 1.2 and the base model Specialized Allez. They actually MSRP less than the KHS and are comparable. If you like the KHS better and love the shop that sells it, buy it.
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Go test ride bikes like the Trek 1.2 and the base model Specialized Allez. They actually MSRP less than the KHS and are comparable. If you like the KHS better and love the shop that sells it, buy it.
Good advice I suppose....I'll go test ride next week.
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Originally Posted by blacksquid View Post
Of course this only applies to your state return.


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That's just the rumor, but only covers your California State Income tax (not Federal). You'll still get your Federal money.
Yeah - aware of that, but I'm with the other poster - I don't like to make a habit of giving the state a long term interest free loan.
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