Frames and Framebuilding (1980) Handcut Lugs -- Insights from Art Stump
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Frames and Framebuilding (1980) Handcut Lugs -- Insights from Art Stump
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SpeedofLite,
Thanks for the interesting article, creating "fancy" lugs is a lost art for the most part and can now only be seen on the frames by upper-end frame builder...with a price to match. This may have always been the case but some of the mass-produced cast lugs were at the very least "fancy", requiring just a little more handwork to thin them to perfection.
I suspect fountains with a filigree were made much in the same way...hard to imagine the work that went into them for mass production.
Thanks again.
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Thanks for the interesting article, creating "fancy" lugs is a lost art for the most part and can now only be seen on the frames by upper-end frame builder...with a price to match. This may have always been the case but some of the mass-produced cast lugs were at the very least "fancy", requiring just a little more handwork to thin them to perfection.
I suspect fountains with a filigree were made much in the same way...hard to imagine the work that went into them for mass production.
Thanks again.
Best, Ben
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Beautiful pens and photo! Was there a "golden age" for that type of embellishment on pens?
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Sorry, I was not trying to hijack your thread...For fountain pens I would say the late 1800's to around the 1930's was the heyday for this type of work. The newer pieces are often cast and a bit clumsy and not as refined for my tastes....now back to "fancy bicycle lugs"
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Thank you! Art was a regular drop-in when I worked at Bikecology in the early 1970s. Particularly impressive was his personal 19-pound black chrome machine, with A D STUMP prominent on the downtube. Delightful fellow, always friendly and eager to share his knowledge with fellow cyclists.
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Thanks! I didn't know of Art Stump. Those lugs? Quite different from but bring to mind for me Peter Mooney's on several frames I used to see regularly in my racing days in the late '70s. He was a clubmate and several other clubmates rode his frames. (Mine has simple Nervex lugs. Post head injury. Money was tight so mine was a no frills frame. Peter regularly used the long point lugs but I asked about the Nervex because my Fuji Pro had Japanese copies, Peter said he had a set still. Cheaper lugs, more work, same price, For my riding style -which he had seen a lot of - plenty stiff and strong.)
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Hand cut lugs can be both extremely time consuming and very fulfilling at the same time. I did this seat lug while building a friend's frame. The extensions down low were reinforcement for brazing a Hellenic seat stays
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