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Old 12-14-15, 11:15 AM
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oh snap, you mean my "raise the left/fill the right" methodology and preaching about mitochondrial density which is stimulated by vO2 efforts has been right all along. LSD is fun and good for losing weight, which is the only reason I ever do it.

In other news, my legs are sore from bicycle pedaling and the nubbin of pain in my ass when I ride is down to the size of an acorn instead of a grapefruit and riding didn't seem to make it worse. I hung on the back of the Saturday race ride and went to the front selection group for a minute before deciding that I wasn't certain if I was exacerbating the injury and returned back to the tail.

It's super sketchy at the back of that ride so I really ended up sitting about 2 seconds behind the pack which made for a decent steady workload.
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
Speaking of slow rides, this is making the rounds today:

The Myth of Winter Base Training For Cyclists | TrainingPeaks
Heh, I saw that. I never tire of articles explaining to me that I don't need more endurance training. Maybe as a generalization, that's true. I know for a fact, though, that I do need more endurance training.

But that's fine. What's annoying is these articles come out every year to tear down the mythical Straw Base. But I don't see a lot of people building a base period around 12 hours of Z2 a week these days. Most people doing "base training" on fewer hours are mixing in a substantial amount of tempo and/or SST work. And it's a lot harder to trash that kind of program, seeing as it's actually pretty effective.
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Did about 30 minutes on the rollers yesterday to spin out a tough cross race on Saturday. The two weeks "off" from the last one really put the nail in the coffin, I cracked really hard and damn near got lapped. Had fun though. Season's over for real, now.

As for the rollers, it's been years and I need to adapt to them again. I do think the smaller diameter drums are a bit less forgiving than the big PVC rollers I learned on. But I think it's going to be a more pleasant way to tap out hours of engine work than a mag trainer.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
LSD is fun and good for losing weight, which is the only reason I ever do it.
Fudgy - Timothy Leary's dead.
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Originally Posted by revchuck
Fudgy - Timothy Leary's dead.
I did that LSD one time and was awake for like 48 hours. I played paintball on day 2 and didn't shoot a single guy over the course of like 4 hours.
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I only did it one time because I really really enjoyed it. Like, too much.
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Looking fwd to my FTP test tomorrow... Will likely record the highest value that I've obtained since I first started riding with a PM 18months ago.
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3 rest days since my wisdom teeth came out today. Everything seemed to go well. Hopefully back on the bike Thursday.
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3:15 Saturday with two ~20min efforts at FTP. I think this was a PR for my wettest ride. It seems like it rained an inch during the ride (weather underground reports 0.72 for the day).

3:30 XC ski yesterday - the first of the season. Trying to figure out what TSS I should assign to this. I feel like it contributes substantially to fatigue, but probably not so much to bike fitness.

Today is rest, with a little bit of yoga.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Looking fwd to my FTP test tomorrow... Will likely record the highest value that I've obtained since I first started riding with a PM 18months ago.
In the words of Napoleon Bonaparte, "That is the point, no?".
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3 of z2 hours this morning - chilly (for us), but clear out.

Actually I tried to make it z2 (60-75% of ftp from what I gather), but I'm really bad at holding a steady pace on rolling terrain. If it was totally flat, it'd be easy, or all slightly uphill, it'd be easy..
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Old 12-14-15, 02:31 PM
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So apparently golden cheetah has updated my modeled critical power from 252 (since Oct) to 263. Not that I use this model as the basis for anything, but if something is telling me I'm better, I'll take it!
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
In the words of Napoleon Bonaparte, "That is the point, no?".
yeah!!!

EDIT: In the words of Napoleon Dynamite: "Do you drink lowfat milk because you think you're fat? Cause you're not. You could drink whole milk if you wanted to."
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Had three hard days in a row, off road, Friday - Sunday.

Today was an easy day on the trainer out on the porch, watching the rain come down. I read a book on my Kindle, with my landlord's collies curled up three feet away, snoring loud enough to wake the dead.
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I may have to start shaving my legs year round, I didn't even need leg warmers today.
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I may have to start shaving my legs year round, I didn't even need leg warmers today.

I think my arms and legs almost got too much sun on yesterdays ride.

And it wasn't even sunny out.
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Originally Posted by mattm
3 of z2 hours this morning - chilly (for us), but clear out.

Actually I tried to make it z2 (60-75% of ftp from what I gather), but I'm really bad at holding a steady pace on rolling terrain. If it was totally flat, it'd be easy, or all slightly uphill, it'd be easy..

can i tag along one these days?
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2' intervals. Geez, I thought I hated 1' intervals. I hate these twice as much. Trying to keep them steady in the 25mph gusts didn't help.
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Originally Posted by Impreza_aL
can i tag along one these days?
Sure, come out to Spectrum! I do it almost every Saturday.
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Question - is there a point of diminishing returns on threshold interval length? We usually speak of doing 10-20' threshold intervals, I was thinking of doing 2x25' later this week.
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I don't think so, I think it's just hard to find enough road to do much longer than 20 minutes. I've done a couple of 2x1hr @ 90% this fall, if anything it seems slightly more potent.
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Old 12-14-15, 08:07 PM
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It's also harder to concentrate for longer periods of time. I think it can be beneficial because of this though because it trains you to keep focus, and when you're burning like 1000+kJ/hr you have to practice eating at pace without choking as well.
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Old 12-14-15, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by revchuck
Question - is there a point of diminishing returns on threshold interval length? We usually speak of doing 10-20' threshold intervals, I was thinking of doing 2x25' later this week.
Look at your resting HR the next morning and if you are willing to spend $50 - your AM SpO2. If your SpO2 is above 98 and your resting HR is not elevated - then no. Otherwise yes. Of course there may be other things to do with your time. What are you trying to do?
You could weigh yourself and take your BP to tell you about hydration., but unless doing really hard stuff I doubt that would help.

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