Estate Sale “Box Of Bike Stuff”
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Well, I couldn’t help myself, had to go back on half-off Sunday. At least I only spent $15 today. I’m excited about the Sedisport ATB chain; I used to buy those for my first mountain bike. I also had those lowfat pedals at some point. It’s like a time capsule of all the stuff I chewed through as a teenager.
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Gorramit! You had to post this. I ran to CL and discovered two garage sales with bike stuff, including this odd Fuji. What the what??
It's Sunday and I'm certain all the good stuff is gone.
It's Sunday and I'm certain all the good stuff is gone.
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From one banana slug to another, I’ll tell ya, most of what you find is not worth buying. I’ve been having great luck lately at estate sales in wealthy neighborhoods. The wealthy folks bought nice stuff and didn’t use it, and the estate sale company doesn’t know what it is because it doesn’t fall into the “collectibles“ category. Most of the time, though, it’s depressing, worn out junk. But there’s nothing more fun than dumping out a ziploc bag of bike tools and seeing what you got for $3!
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From one banana slug to another, I’ll tell ya, most of what you find is not worth buying. I’ve been having great luck lately at estate sales in wealthy neighborhoods. The wealthy folks bought nice stuff and didn’t use it, and the estate sale company doesn’t know what it is because it doesn’t fall into the “collectibles“ category. Most of the time, though, it’s depressing, worn out junk. But there’s nothing more fun than dumping out a ziploc bag of bike tools and seeing what you got for $3!
From one banana slug to another, I’ll tell ya, most of what you find is not worth buying. I’ve been having great luck lately at estate sales in wealthy neighborhoods. The wealthy folks bought nice stuff and didn’t use it, and the estate sale company doesn’t know what it is because it doesn’t fall into the “collectibles“ category. Most of the time, though, it’s depressing, worn out junk. But there’s nothing more fun than dumping out a ziploc bag of bike tools and seeing what you got for $3!
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Way to go!
From one banana slug to another, I’ll tell ya, most of what you find is not worth buying. I’ve been having great luck lately at estate sales in wealthy neighborhoods. The wealthy folks bought nice stuff and didn’t use it, and the estate sale company doesn’t know what it is because it doesn’t fall into the “collectibles“ category. Most of the time, though, it’s depressing, worn out junk. But there’s nothing more fun than dumping out a ziploc bag of bike tools and seeing what you got for $3!
From one banana slug to another, I’ll tell ya, most of what you find is not worth buying. I’ve been having great luck lately at estate sales in wealthy neighborhoods. The wealthy folks bought nice stuff and didn’t use it, and the estate sale company doesn’t know what it is because it doesn’t fall into the “collectibles“ category. Most of the time, though, it’s depressing, worn out junk. But there’s nothing more fun than dumping out a ziploc bag of bike tools and seeing what you got for $3!
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Those are indeed headset wrenches for 1" headset setups and they also hold freewheel and bottom bracket install/removal splined "sockets", like for the sealed cartridge bottom brackets when they came out. I'd place them at late 1980s at the earliest to early 1990s. I have the same wrenches, but some of them are missing the plastic edge covers so they dig into my fingers when I need to apply a lot of torque.
I would love that cinelli stem, even though it's missing the binder bolt. If you find yourself heading back out to that spot, please consider allowing me to paypal you some $ to pick it up and ship it to me in SoCal.
I would love that cinelli stem, even though it's missing the binder bolt. If you find yourself heading back out to that spot, please consider allowing me to paypal you some $ to pick it up and ship it to me in SoCal.
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Park Cone Wrench Knockoffs
JacobLee spank226 madpogue
I have a bunch of Park cone wrenches that I bought way back when they first came out. The green handled ones look like knockoffs:
Why?
1. Besides the green plastic dip coating, they have 2 holes for hanging them...
2. The "mm" characters are spaced away from the stamped numbers and are not as clear as the ones used on real Park tools . Many Park tools were and probably still are made for them by Snap-On Tools.
3. The bottom of the wrench openings are squared off rather than rounded as on real Park cone wrenches.
Early Park cone wrenches
Later version with the Park name on the handle.
Schwinn branded Park cone wrench
About 20 years ago I visited the Snap-On plant in San Diego, CA on business. That's where they made special tools like these cone wrenches.
Notice the cleanly stamped characters in these Snap-On wrenches. That's something that was rarely seen in other brands of hand tools BITD.
Park discontinued the thin chrome plated cone wrenches pictured above. The new ones are black oxide coated rather than chrome plated steel. They,re more robust but I prefer the older thin ones for 13mm and 14mm nuts.
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I have a bunch of Park cone wrenches that I bought way back when they first came out. The green handled ones look like knockoffs:
Why?
1. Besides the green plastic dip coating, they have 2 holes for hanging them...
2. The "mm" characters are spaced away from the stamped numbers and are not as clear as the ones used on real Park tools . Many Park tools were and probably still are made for them by Snap-On Tools.
3. The bottom of the wrench openings are squared off rather than rounded as on real Park cone wrenches.
Early Park cone wrenches
Later version with the Park name on the handle.
Schwinn branded Park cone wrench
About 20 years ago I visited the Snap-On plant in San Diego, CA on business. That's where they made special tools like these cone wrenches.
Notice the cleanly stamped characters in these Snap-On wrenches. That's something that was rarely seen in other brands of hand tools BITD.
Park discontinued the thin chrome plated cone wrenches pictured above. The new ones are black oxide coated rather than chrome plated steel. They,re more robust but I prefer the older thin ones for 13mm and 14mm nuts.
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Those are indeed headset wrenches for 1" headset setups and they also hold freewheel and bottom bracket install/removal splined "sockets", like for the sealed cartridge bottom brackets when they came out. I'd place them at late 1980s at the earliest to early 1990s. I have the same wrenches, but some of them are missing the plastic edge covers so they dig into my fingers when I need to apply a lot of torque.
I would love that cinelli stem, even though it's missing the binder bolt. If you find yourself heading back out to that spot, please consider allowing me to paypal you some $ to pick it up and ship it to me in SoCal.
I would love that cinelli stem, even though it's missing the binder bolt. If you find yourself heading back out to that spot, please consider allowing me to paypal you some $ to pick it up and ship it to me in SoCal.
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JacobLee spank226 madpogue
I have a bunch of Park cone wrenches that I bought way back when they first came out. The green handled ones look like knockoffs:
Why?
1. Besides the green plastic dip coating, they have 2 holes for hanging them...
2. The stamped numbers are not as clear as the ones used on real Park tools. Many Park tools were and probably still are made for them by Snap-On Tools.
Early Park cone wrenches
Later version with the Park name on the handle.
Schwinn branded Park cone wrench
About 20 years ago I visited the Snap-On plant in San Diego, CA on business. That's where they made special tools like these cone wrenches.
Notice the cleanly stamped characters in these Snap-On wrenches. That's something that was rarely seen in other brands of hand tools BITD.
verktyg
I have a bunch of Park cone wrenches that I bought way back when they first came out. The green handled ones look like knockoffs:
Why?
1. Besides the green plastic dip coating, they have 2 holes for hanging them...
2. The stamped numbers are not as clear as the ones used on real Park tools. Many Park tools were and probably still are made for them by Snap-On Tools.
Early Park cone wrenches
Later version with the Park name on the handle.
Schwinn branded Park cone wrench
About 20 years ago I visited the Snap-On plant in San Diego, CA on business. That's where they made special tools like these cone wrenches.
Notice the cleanly stamped characters in these Snap-On wrenches. That's something that was rarely seen in other brands of hand tools BITD.
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Made in USA
A lot of cheap junk stuff came into the US marked "MADE IN USA"....
That was well before the Japanese adopted quality standards in the late 60's and early 70's.
Certain countries still flagrantly stamp "MADE IN...." on products they export. Switzerland on the other hand stamps "MADE IN SWITZERLAND" on any/many products that go through their customs and get exported.
20-35 years ago I was involved in the manufacture of medical bone implants for a Swiss company. They were made completely here in NorCal. The parts were sent to Switzerland where they were inspected, laser etched with "Made In Switzerland" and sold all over the world.
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Back in the early 50's, some Japanese renamed a small village outside of Tokyo "Usa".
A lot of cheap junk stuff came into the US marked "MADE IN USA"....
That was well before the Japanese adopted quality standards in the late 60's and early 70's.
Certain countries still flagrantly stamp "MADE IN...." on products they export. Switzerland on the other had stamps "MADE IN SWITZERLAND" on any/many products that go through their customs and get exported.
20-35 years ago I was involved in the manufacture of medical implants for a Swiss company. They were made completely here in NorCal. The parts were sent to Switzerland where they were inspected, laser etched "Made In Switzerland" and sold all over the world.
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A lot of cheap junk stuff came into the US marked "MADE IN USA"....
That was well before the Japanese adopted quality standards in the late 60's and early 70's.
Certain countries still flagrantly stamp "MADE IN...." on products they export. Switzerland on the other had stamps "MADE IN SWITZERLAND" on any/many products that go through their customs and get exported.
20-35 years ago I was involved in the manufacture of medical implants for a Swiss company. They were made completely here in NorCal. The parts were sent to Switzerland where they were inspected, laser etched "Made In Switzerland" and sold all over the world.
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My initial thought about those wrenches was, “Who stamps USA on a product, but leaves off the brand name?”
Now I’m thinking, “Who counterfeits cone wrenches?” Sheesh, I can’t think of a less lucrative scheme.
Thanks for the info!
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Unbranded Park Cone Wrenches
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Snopes and other online sources of knowledge
The internet tells me that's not true, and if it's on the internet, it must be true...I mean false, I mean...oh you know what I mean: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/made-in-usa/
I was there... That is, in the early 1950's there were multitudes of cheap Japanese stamped one sided "tin" toys made from recycled US beer cans. They were mostly cars, planes and military items with the graphics lithoed on them. On the back side you could still read the can labels. I remember seeing some toys with MADE IN USA in tiny letters. There were also things like cheap pocket knives and other novelty items.
I clearly remember reading articles (I was about 7 or 8 years old but I could read and comprehend) about the town in Japan named Usa. The value of those cheap imports was so low and the quantities so limited that I doubt the US Customs was very concerned about the misuse of the MADE IN USA labels.
I was there... in Japan in 1964-65. Portrait of the artist as a young man...
Cameras and consumer electronics were just beginning to receive international recognition for their quality. That was what helped foster the Japanese reputation for quality products.
Getting back to the internet and Snopes, they seem to do a good job of research but, WHERE THEY THERE????
I retired last year after 40 years working in all types of manufacturing. Some of my cohorts coined the phrase "25 year olds with laptops" to which I added: Whose life experiences consisted of ~20 years of playing 1st person shooter games and 15 years of social media!!!
A frequent comment heard from some of those folks: "How do you know that, how do you know that?" "I couldn't find it on the internet???" (therefore it can't exist)....
Well my friend, there's no substitute for 40 years of hands on experience!
Several friends of my had fun with a young engineer at Apple who asked in disbelief "How do you know that", but that's a different story....
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How old are you in that photo there? 4 or 5 years old? Because Usa, Japan was founded in 1967 and you said you were reading about it when you were 7 or 8 years old. Impressive.
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Well I'm certainly not doubting your first hand knowledge on the subject, and seeing as I wasn't alive until '77 and don't live in the USA I guess I'm zero from two, so the internet is really my only resource.
How old are you in that photo there? 4 or 5 years old? Because Usa, Japan was founded in 1967 and you said you were reading about it when you were 7 or 8 years old. Impressive.
How old are you in that photo there? 4 or 5 years old? Because Usa, Japan was founded in 1967 and you said you were reading about it when you were 7 or 8 years old. Impressive.
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Well I'm certainly not doubting your first hand knowledge on the subject, and seeing as I wasn't alive until '77 and don't live in the USA I guess I'm zero from two, so the internet is really my only resource.
How old are you in that photo there? 4 or 5 years old? Because Usa, Japan was founded in 1967 and you said you were reading about it when you were 7 or 8 years old. Impressive.
How old are you in that photo there? 4 or 5 years old? Because Usa, Japan was founded in 1967 and you said you were reading about it when you were 7 or 8 years old. Impressive.
A rumour spread that products made in a town named "Usa, Ōita" located in Ōita Prefecture, Japan and exported to the US in the 1960s carried the label MADE IN USA, JAPAN, to create the appearance that the product was made in the US. It is, however, a myth that Japan renamed the town "Usa" following World War II so that goods exported from Japan could be labeled as such. The town has existed from the 8th century (see Usa Jingū), predating the existence of the "United States of America" (first used in the 1776 United States Declaration of Independence) by more than a millennium, and is not a major manufacturing center; furthermore, the United States Customs Service would probably have recognized such labeling, had it occurred, as fraudulent and thus would have prohibited goods so labeled from being imported into the United States.[4]