Cycling in the Cold
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Cycling in the Cold
Greetings, all. One years since I had a heart attack, and I got lots of good advice from folks here, plus encouragement. Just a quick question. When I was in rehab the nurses said no riding if it's below freezing. It's in the high 20s here today (Fahrenheit). In the past, I dressed appropriately and was fine. However, since I did get that advice, should I do the trainer instead? I have cold weather attire, but perhaps it's best to avoid courting danger...
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I'm 2 1/2 years out from the same My cardiologist said the same thing That's not an option around my place, have cows to feed whether it's nice or freezing arse cold. I've never had a problem with it, but I do bundle up I don't wear a mask either. I also go for long walks when it's in the 20's. Personally I'd test the waters, do some short rides not far from home. I'd bet you'll be fine. For me anyway shoveling snow or plodding through knee deep snow hasn't been an issue. But as I said I kind of tested things out at first, slow and steady... ..
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And as a side note these nurses in rehab are dealing with real fragile folks as you well know, right after a life altering event That's great advice at the time they're dealing with us. But you know you better than anyone, if it feels good...... Do it
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Greetings, all. One years since I had a heart attack, and I got lots of good advice from folks here, plus encouragement. Just a quick question. When I was in rehab the nurses said no riding if it's below freezing. It's in the high 20s here today (Fahrenheit). In the past, I dressed appropriately and was fine. However, since I did get that advice, should I do the trainer instead? I have cold weather attire, but perhaps it's best to avoid courting danger...
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Read your own post again. You're going to make that decision on a post from someone else?
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In Sweden, outdoorsy activities during winter are very common. Tour (ice) skating, cross-country skiing, downhill skiing etc etc. In terms of exertion, these should be well comparable to bicycling.
And there's a bunch of cardiac event survivors, who keep doing these things.
That they're all suicidal or at least reckless is a possibility, although not the most likely one.
So there's probably another explanation:
- maybe doctors here follow another protocol
- maybe there was an implicit time limit to the recommendation that you didn't understand
- or something else
Since you've been under care, I assume that you're not entirely cut off. I'd suggest contacting your doctor/the clinic/the rehab people and ask for further clarification on what activites that are OK, and under what conditions.
And there's a bunch of cardiac event survivors, who keep doing these things.
That they're all suicidal or at least reckless is a possibility, although not the most likely one.
So there's probably another explanation:
- maybe doctors here follow another protocol
- maybe there was an implicit time limit to the recommendation that you didn't understand
- or something else
Since you've been under care, I assume that you're not entirely cut off. I'd suggest contacting your doctor/the clinic/the rehab people and ask for further clarification on what activites that are OK, and under what conditions.
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I'm not a doctor but I would imagine breathing cold air deep into your lungs during (cardio activities) could add additional stress to your heart......
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I really enjoy the briskness of the cold air and can ride with temperatures in the 20s. I have noticed that my heart rate goes up when it’s that cold which makes sense. If it was me, I’d ride an easier pace, watch my metrics like heart rate and above all listen to my body.
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I don't ride when the roads might be icy. One injury can ruin your whole season. I ride indoors instead. Works fine.
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I ride with temps in down to 25 if no wind. Not because of the lung issue but any wind at temps around 25 degrees the wind chill gets too much. If there is no wind cold has never been a problem. I easily run with temps in single digits again with no wind. Until I was about 50 I ran outside really no matter what and under pretty nasty conditions. But now at 57 I have less coordination and any ice at all is a scare and so I use the treadmill.
I would never go by what a nurse said ( no offense to nurses I am married to one) but would ask the doctor. I am unsure about cold weather if you have had a heart attack but for the ordinary person breathing in cold air is no problem it warms right up in the lungs It is a myth that you can somehow freeze your lungs out, at least with temps down around zero. Wind will always be the factor
I would never go by what a nurse said ( no offense to nurses I am married to one) but would ask the doctor. I am unsure about cold weather if you have had a heart attack but for the ordinary person breathing in cold air is no problem it warms right up in the lungs It is a myth that you can somehow freeze your lungs out, at least with temps down around zero. Wind will always be the factor
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"Cold temperatures cause arteries to tighten, restricting blood flow and reducing the oxygen supply to the heart, all of which can set the stage for a heart attack. "In cold weather, there is more oxygen demand by the heart because it is working harder to do the work and maintain body heat,"
I always take several capsules of CocoaVia before riding, a cocoa extract. The stuff is proven to increase nitric oxide, which relaxes blood vessels.
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When someone asks question like this it makes me uncomfortable. I might give them my experience, but only the individual can decide what's best for their health, particularly when its something that could be potentially life-threatening. Personally, I hate the cold.
Last edited by KraneXL; 11-23-18 at 07:28 AM.
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Hmm, doctor gives you a strict guidance. You go to the internet and ask on a non-medical forum if you should follow your doctors orders. You might need to rethink how you go about making decisions and where you get your information to influence them.
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I've ridden in temps down to 20F, which doesn't happen too often in this part of Texas. Just a personal challenge. The hardest part is keeping the fingers and toes warm longer than an hour.
The only thing I do differently (besides the usual stuff to dress appropriately) is to wear disposable paper surgical masks when the temp approaches or drops below freezing. Makes a big difference in comfort. Fewer problems with sinus congestion and pain, less stressful on the body than breathing cold, dry air.
Some folks wear balaclavas and fabric stuff but those get soaked and snotty pretty quickly. Paper masks are cheap, weigh nothing and take up very little space, and I can carry two or more for a longer ride and change them as needed.
And there are cosmetic choices besides the usual blue. I haven't seen any bike themed masks though.
I've ridden on light dustings of snow a few times, up to an inch or so deep, but only when I'm sure the weather conditions didn't allow for thawing and re-freezing. Riding on shallow "dry" snow feels pretty much the same as normal riding. My hybrids' utility tires with chevron tread or cyclocross/gravel tread were good enough.
One thing I won't do is ride when the roads might be slick with ice. Texas drivers don't know how to drive on ice. It's not even safe to walk on the sidewalk since drivers will slide around corners right across roads, sidewalks and yards.
The only thing I do differently (besides the usual stuff to dress appropriately) is to wear disposable paper surgical masks when the temp approaches or drops below freezing. Makes a big difference in comfort. Fewer problems with sinus congestion and pain, less stressful on the body than breathing cold, dry air.
Some folks wear balaclavas and fabric stuff but those get soaked and snotty pretty quickly. Paper masks are cheap, weigh nothing and take up very little space, and I can carry two or more for a longer ride and change them as needed.
And there are cosmetic choices besides the usual blue. I haven't seen any bike themed masks though.
I've ridden on light dustings of snow a few times, up to an inch or so deep, but only when I'm sure the weather conditions didn't allow for thawing and re-freezing. Riding on shallow "dry" snow feels pretty much the same as normal riding. My hybrids' utility tires with chevron tread or cyclocross/gravel tread were good enough.
One thing I won't do is ride when the roads might be slick with ice. Texas drivers don't know how to drive on ice. It's not even safe to walk on the sidewalk since drivers will slide around corners right across roads, sidewalks and yards.
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I concur with Mitkraft above. You ought to be using the guidance of the medical professionals you paid to give you that guidance. But, if you're going to go against that advice, I wouldn't do it all at once. Go on a short ride and see how it affects you. Make each ride a bit longer. Maybe contact your doc and communicate with him/her more specifically about doing this.
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22 degrees this morning, and when I did ride yesterday in the 25 degree weather, I did OK, but was reminded that the medications make me more sensitive to the cold. Trainer it is, then.
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The coldest I rode last January was -5. I ride at night in a heavy wilderness area on our main roads. Granted, I dont ride far at night and dont ride any faster than to keep a decent pace for 1/2hr or so. I just dont like being stuck in the house.
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I try to avoid riding in temps below the freezing point for two reason:
1. Ice. Too many bad experiences with ice that lingers in shaded areas long after the snow is gone.
2. https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/...s-have-asthma/
1. Ice. Too many bad experiences with ice that lingers in shaded areas long after the snow is gone.
2. https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/...s-have-asthma/
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This may be my first winter not riding in 5 seasons. May, we shall see. Right now, still have one tag to fill in the archery deer season. Still not sure how wolves react to my riding in the dark.
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I got the same advice from the rehab nurse, so I checked with my cardiologist (who's a cyclist -- this is important!). Cardio's advice was basically do anything you want, just don't push too hard. So I bundle up and ride. I figure that, since I end up sweating, most of my skin is warm inside all those layers, and I just don't need to set any speed records when I'm burning more energy moving those same layers.
If you've got a doctor who's not a cyclist, you'll probably get the "Don't ever ride your bike on a road" advice. Gee, the guy two doors up parks his cars across the sidewalk -- that's not going to give me much exercise riding up there and back.
If you've got a doctor who's not a cyclist, you'll probably get the "Don't ever ride your bike on a road" advice. Gee, the guy two doors up parks his cars across the sidewalk -- that's not going to give me much exercise riding up there and back.
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I used to love the cold weather, flogging myself over the snow covered hills. The cold is now like an allergy. I keep out of it. This is what Gyms are made for . . .
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"so I checked with my cardiologist" I think that is the key point to this whole thread.
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I've been doing some cold weather riding. Gatorskins on. 3 fingered gloves a necessity. Neoprene toe warmers plus neoprene overboots for <30F. Baclava. I don't record or look at ave speed. Cutting miles way back to <20.
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A heart attack isn’t a sign you should back away from life and doing the things you like to do. It is a sign that you need to make your physical and mental health your priority.
^^^^ A quote from WebMD. ^^^^
I'm not sure how many times someone sez to speak with their doctor before changing any activity Then turn around and say if you don't like what your doctor sez find one that knows about the same activity you're inquiring about.
Once your cardiologist has you fixed, he sends you off to the cardiac rehab facility. Once you're done with the cardiac rehab, they send you home with the knowledge that you will be able to make most decisions on your own. If you are not sure of what activities you can partake in, consult with your cardiologists again. If they detect any anxiety on your part to engage in an activity they'll error on the side of caution and tell you to forego that said activity But on the other hand if you let them know you can't wait to get started riding a bike again and want to peddle on cold days also, they're more than likely to tell you that you can get started anytime and just take it easy to start
^^^^ A quote from WebMD. ^^^^
I'm not sure how many times someone sez to speak with their doctor before changing any activity Then turn around and say if you don't like what your doctor sez find one that knows about the same activity you're inquiring about.
Once your cardiologist has you fixed, he sends you off to the cardiac rehab facility. Once you're done with the cardiac rehab, they send you home with the knowledge that you will be able to make most decisions on your own. If you are not sure of what activities you can partake in, consult with your cardiologists again. If they detect any anxiety on your part to engage in an activity they'll error on the side of caution and tell you to forego that said activity But on the other hand if you let them know you can't wait to get started riding a bike again and want to peddle on cold days also, they're more than likely to tell you that you can get started anytime and just take it easy to start