On the Road Again Project Challenges - Again
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On the Road Again Project Challenges - Again
"On the Road Again" Challenges Anyone who's spent any amount of time in C&V knows that there are many here who enjoy projects. There are also many who enjoy riding. And there are those who enjoy a bit of storytelling. And those whose best is brought out by a challenge. Once again, in the spirit of Narhay's klunker challenge, a repeat is being offered with some minor modifications. It's starting a bit late this year, as I've spent nearly every spare moment these past four weeks rehabbing the property we purchased next door into a rental... thereby getting it "On the Road Again" (it is a mobile home that has gone from Virginia, to Georgia and back again) as well.
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The On the Road Again Challenges.
I am feeling ambitious and trying to be inclusive. The idea is to put a bike that was not working (and I'll be lenient on defining "working"), on the road in some improved state during 2024. Like the former challenge, there is the requirement that the bicycle be ridden 100 km (bonus for Miles) and final entries/documentation culminating on the Autumnal Equinox to compensate for the late start. Plenty of time here. Pictures are strongly encouraged. (at minimum, before and after photos are needed) Progress reports help maintain interest and provide motivation so expect the thread to be alive.
Here's where there are twists, There will be five distinct categories. While it is certainly possible for a bike to meet more than one of them - or for an exceptionally talented person to have a bicycle that does meet all five, the rules/guidelines are separate. The categories will be:
1. Mucho-cheapo
2. Frankenbike
3. Restoration
4. It started with a part
5. From the frame up
The details:
Mucho-cheapo: This is the only category with a budget, but with a couple differences from years past: $108 is the limit for spending on the bike and parts in 2024. The focus is on resourcefulness and ingenuity on a budget. "Horse-trading" has a place here, but the judge(s) are going to raise eyebrows if the Confente that you miraculously got in a trade for a beaten-up U-08 gets entered (if you catch the drift). That said, go ahead and dig into your parts stash to find a seatpost, an old Titleist derailleur and whatnot. In the spirit of the competition, please don't put the 50th Anniversary gruppo that you've been holding onto since 2011 on it. One other difference - in the interest of safety. Tires and tubes are excluded from the budget limit. One further note. Efforts beyond finding a $50.00 beater and giving it a generic overhaul will be rewarded.
Clarifications: If you paid for, or traded an item acquired since 1/1/24 for the part in 2024, consider it as part of the $108.00 limit. Items on-hand as of 1/1/24 count as $0. Items traded for items that were on hand as of 1/1/24 also count as $0.
Parts can not be sold, with the sale price applied to the project cost as a negative amount to offset other costs.
For example, if you use or trade a part that was on-hand prior to 1/1/2024 for one that is used on the project, that's Zero. If you sell the part for $50, it doesn't change your budget to $158.
Frankenbike: While you may choose to live within the Mucho-cheapo budget, that is not necessary. The idea here is to take something and make one or more parts of it something different from what it started with. Aero bars on a MTB? Fair game. A fixed gear Varsity? check. Tall-bike? ok. Tractor lights on a night rider? Go for it. Proud of a gugificazione? Room for that too. Ingenuity, and creativity are your friends in this one.
Restoration: I have immense respect for people who have the eye for and exercise the attention to detail necessary to perform a faithful restoration. There's no reason why they shouldn't have a category. It is recognized that Restorations can take years. Locating just the right part(s) can be even more daunting than paying for them. Recognizing this, if the project has been actively advanced in 2024, it is eligible. If it's not quite in it's final state, it is also eligible.
It started with a part: This category will tap into not only your project completion skills, but also having a knack for documenting your creative process. Did you ever come across a component that took you down a bit of a rabbit hole of a project, or became a theme for your build? Perhaps it's one of those 3-pulley derailleurs that inspired you to build a bike that can be ridden up a cliff, or some awesomely cool fenders that just had to go on something. A colored part that led to repainting the frame? Whatever it is, here's your category.
From the frame up: Whether you paint it or not, if you build a bike up from nothing you have a category.
Please note that this is intended to be fun. If you have feedback or suggestions, I'm willing to hear them. Likewise, if you're interested in being a co-judge for one of the categories, shoot me a PM.
Let's see what we can do!
..
The On the Road Again Challenges.
I am feeling ambitious and trying to be inclusive. The idea is to put a bike that was not working (and I'll be lenient on defining "working"), on the road in some improved state during 2024. Like the former challenge, there is the requirement that the bicycle be ridden 100 km (bonus for Miles) and final entries/documentation culminating on the Autumnal Equinox to compensate for the late start. Plenty of time here. Pictures are strongly encouraged. (at minimum, before and after photos are needed) Progress reports help maintain interest and provide motivation so expect the thread to be alive.
Here's where there are twists, There will be five distinct categories. While it is certainly possible for a bike to meet more than one of them - or for an exceptionally talented person to have a bicycle that does meet all five, the rules/guidelines are separate. The categories will be:
1. Mucho-cheapo
2. Frankenbike
3. Restoration
4. It started with a part
5. From the frame up
The details:
Mucho-cheapo: This is the only category with a budget, but with a couple differences from years past: $108 is the limit for spending on the bike and parts in 2024. The focus is on resourcefulness and ingenuity on a budget. "Horse-trading" has a place here, but the judge(s) are going to raise eyebrows if the Confente that you miraculously got in a trade for a beaten-up U-08 gets entered (if you catch the drift). That said, go ahead and dig into your parts stash to find a seatpost, an old Titleist derailleur and whatnot. In the spirit of the competition, please don't put the 50th Anniversary gruppo that you've been holding onto since 2011 on it. One other difference - in the interest of safety. Tires and tubes are excluded from the budget limit. One further note. Efforts beyond finding a $50.00 beater and giving it a generic overhaul will be rewarded.
Clarifications: If you paid for, or traded an item acquired since 1/1/24 for the part in 2024, consider it as part of the $108.00 limit. Items on-hand as of 1/1/24 count as $0. Items traded for items that were on hand as of 1/1/24 also count as $0.
Parts can not be sold, with the sale price applied to the project cost as a negative amount to offset other costs.
For example, if you use or trade a part that was on-hand prior to 1/1/2024 for one that is used on the project, that's Zero. If you sell the part for $50, it doesn't change your budget to $158.
Frankenbike: While you may choose to live within the Mucho-cheapo budget, that is not necessary. The idea here is to take something and make one or more parts of it something different from what it started with. Aero bars on a MTB? Fair game. A fixed gear Varsity? check. Tall-bike? ok. Tractor lights on a night rider? Go for it. Proud of a gugificazione? Room for that too. Ingenuity, and creativity are your friends in this one.
Restoration: I have immense respect for people who have the eye for and exercise the attention to detail necessary to perform a faithful restoration. There's no reason why they shouldn't have a category. It is recognized that Restorations can take years. Locating just the right part(s) can be even more daunting than paying for them. Recognizing this, if the project has been actively advanced in 2024, it is eligible. If it's not quite in it's final state, it is also eligible.
It started with a part: This category will tap into not only your project completion skills, but also having a knack for documenting your creative process. Did you ever come across a component that took you down a bit of a rabbit hole of a project, or became a theme for your build? Perhaps it's one of those 3-pulley derailleurs that inspired you to build a bike that can be ridden up a cliff, or some awesomely cool fenders that just had to go on something. A colored part that led to repainting the frame? Whatever it is, here's your category.
From the frame up: Whether you paint it or not, if you build a bike up from nothing you have a category.
Please note that this is intended to be fun. If you have feedback or suggestions, I'm willing to hear them. Likewise, if you're interested in being a co-judge for one of the categories, shoot me a PM.
Let's see what we can do!
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I'm in! I guess I'll go for the "mucho cheapo" category again, although I'm going to feel a little bad because I know I'll be replacing some stuff with parts that have been in my possession for quite some time which adds $0 to the total.
Anyway....
I picked up a Motobecane Grand Record at the local bike thrift store a a couple weeks ago for $37.50 ($35 plus tax).
As purchased, loaded up at the thrift store:
Here is a "before" pic:
The only thing I've done to it up to this point was air up the extremely dry rotted tires and rode up and down my short driveway a couple times. I also gave hardware and some components some lube, in preparation for teardown during The Challenge timeframe. I'm happy The Challenge has begun, because I've been itching to get working on this.
I began disassembling some things today, the rack was the first thing to go!
Anyway....
I picked up a Motobecane Grand Record at the local bike thrift store a a couple weeks ago for $37.50 ($35 plus tax).
As purchased, loaded up at the thrift store:
Here is a "before" pic:
The only thing I've done to it up to this point was air up the extremely dry rotted tires and rode up and down my short driveway a couple times. I also gave hardware and some components some lube, in preparation for teardown during The Challenge timeframe. I'm happy The Challenge has begun, because I've been itching to get working on this.
I began disassembling some things today, the rack was the first thing to go!
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I think I am in this year...the blasphemous 1973ish Raleigh International might be my victim. Not sure if it will get paint, but it might. $60 initial outlay. I doubt I can get it in under $108 so it might be into another category. Maybe Frankenbike or the frame up?
Still 100km or 100 miles?
I need to atone for past failures!
Edit: Doh...didn’t read the whole thing. Any deadline? Also, I see that anything on hand counts $0. Might be able to hit a few categories after all! Including the coveted Klunker Crap Category.
Still 100km or 100 miles?
I need to atone for past failures!
Edit: Doh...didn’t read the whole thing. Any deadline? Also, I see that anything on hand counts $0. Might be able to hit a few categories after all! Including the coveted Klunker Crap Category.
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Am I allowed more than 1 entry in 1 category?
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I think I am in this year...the blasphemous 1973ish Raleigh International might be my victim. Not sure if it will get paint, but it might. $60 initial outlay. I doubt I can get it in under $108 so it might be into another category. Maybe Frankenbike or the frame up?
Still 100km or 100 miles?
I need to atone for past failures!
Edit: Doh...didn’t read the whole thing. Any deadline? Also, I see that anything on hand counts $0. Might be able to hit a few categories after all! Including the coveted Klunker Crap Category.
Still 100km or 100 miles?
I need to atone for past failures!
Edit: Doh...didn’t read the whole thing. Any deadline? Also, I see that anything on hand counts $0. Might be able to hit a few categories after all! Including the coveted Klunker Crap Category.
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I am "in" again this year in the Mucho Cheapo category. It will be either one (or maybe both) of these:
This $30 mid-70's JC Penney 10 Speed Racer
With rear Shimano disc brake.
Or this $20 '87 High Sierra that is far crustier than the picture shows.
This $30 mid-70's JC Penney 10 Speed Racer
With rear Shimano disc brake.
Or this $20 '87 High Sierra that is far crustier than the picture shows.
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Frame up: either the newer (by minutes or hours) CapO (named after company founder and owner, Otto Cap) Sieger or the Carlton Franco-Suisse
Both are full Reynolds 531, with double-butted main triangle
All stripped down and ready to rebuild.
Repainted Capo Sieger frame, serial number very close to that of my other Sieger, so who was I to say no to it?
The chrome and original blue paint on the Carlton is nice, but so is the Rathausmann on the seat tube of the Sieger.
Both are full Reynolds 531, with double-butted main triangle
All stripped down and ready to rebuild.
Repainted Capo Sieger frame, serial number very close to that of my other Sieger, so who was I to say no to it?
The chrome and original blue paint on the Carlton is nice, but so is the Rathausmann on the seat tube of the Sieger.
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Burleigh?
I'm thinking of participating in this challenge so I started looking for suitable candidates. I came across a FB Marketplace ad for a "Burleigh road bicycle". I've come up empty trying to find information on this bike. Has anyone ever seen or heard of this bike before? Is it bike shop quality or was it sold at Toys R Us in 1970s? It appears to have a lugged frame and there is a downtube sticker that says "Chrome Molybdenum".
Here are a couple of images from the ad:
Here are a couple of images from the ad:
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^ From the short-lived Milton Berle/Raleigh collaboration!
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I'm in! I guess I'll go for the "mucho cheapo" category again, although I'm going to feel a little bad because I know I'll be replacing some stuff with parts that have been in my possession for quite some time which adds $0 to the total.
Anyway....
I picked up a Motobecane Grand Record at the local bike thrift store a a couple weeks ago for $37.50 ($35 plus tax).
As purchased, loaded up at the thrift store:
Here is a "before" pic:
The only thing I've done to it up to this point was air up the extremely dry rotted tires and rode up and down my short driveway a couple times. I also gave hardware and some components some lube, in preparation for teardown during The Challenge timeframe. I'm happy The Challenge has begun, because I've been itching to get working on this.
I began disassembling some things today, the rack was the first thing to go!
Anyway....
I picked up a Motobecane Grand Record at the local bike thrift store a a couple weeks ago for $37.50 ($35 plus tax).
As purchased, loaded up at the thrift store:
Here is a "before" pic:
The only thing I've done to it up to this point was air up the extremely dry rotted tires and rode up and down my short driveway a couple times. I also gave hardware and some components some lube, in preparation for teardown during The Challenge timeframe. I'm happy The Challenge has begun, because I've been itching to get working on this.
I began disassembling some things today, the rack was the first thing to go!
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1993 Trek 750
I picked up a 1993 Trek 750 a few years back. It's in great shape and I've always liked the lugged Trek hybrids. It has the same geometry as the 520 but it was a heck of a lot cheaper. The frame has been hanging on a hook and I figured this thread will give me an excuse to build it up. So this goes into the from the frame up category. I plan to build this into a "modern" bike (or at least as modern as I want to ride) with 3 x 9 gearing (or maybe 3 x 7), bar end shifters, cantilevers, and 700 x 38c tires. Below are 3 pics of the bike as "found in the wild." It's been stripped down to the frame. I did a cross country tour back more than a few years ago on a 1983 Trek 720. I'm thinking this bike will make a fine replacement for the 720 to do some touring . . .
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I picked up a 1993 Trek 750 a few years back. It's in great shape and I've always liked the lugged Trek hybrids. It has the same geometry as the 520 but it was a heck of a lot cheaper. The frame has been hanging on a hook and I figured this thread will give me an excuse to build it up. So this goes into the from the frame up category. I plan to build this into a "modern" bike (or at least as modern as I want to ride) with 3 x 9 gearing (or maybe 3 x 7), bar end shifters, cantilevers, and 700 x 38c tires. Below are 3 pics of the bike as "found in the wild." It's been stripped down to the frame. I'd like to some touring on this . . .
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2,4, and 5 describes every bike in my garage as well as the spill over in my daughter's shed
The only thing I don't do is ride cheap bikes or do restorations.
The only thing I don't do is ride cheap bikes or do restorations.
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Current status and final choice for challenge
So, firstly, spent $80 (not $60...I looked it back up in FB messages). Sold two items for a grand total of $75, but shipping adjustment meant around $60ish.
So starting with a $21 slate.
As it stands...decided it will be refinished in some goofy Dave way...Chrome is meh, but working to make the best it’s going to be.
So starting with a $21 slate.
As it stands...decided it will be refinished in some goofy Dave way...Chrome is meh, but working to make the best it’s going to be.
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And the results. Meh. The chrome sucks.
PSa: do not use foil method on Raleigh chrome. I now have one satin chrome seat stay and one “shiny” chrome stay.
Not bad enough to change the plan.
PSa: do not use foil method on Raleigh chrome. I now have one satin chrome seat stay and one “shiny” chrome stay.
Not bad enough to change the plan.
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Does this brake look funny? The pad is almost at the end of its arm in the brake there. The further I insert the pad into the brake then the more inward the brake will pivot. This is a 700c wheel, and it's not a touring rim (Mavic Open Sport). I was told the frame was for 700c and it came without the brake. I'm wondering maybe was this meant to be 27"? 1989 Kuwahara Caravan. 89 seems to be a bit late in the game for a touring bike with 27" wheels no?
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Does this brake look funny? The pad is almost at the end of its arm in the brake there. The further I insert the pad into the brake then the more inward the brake will pivot. This is a 700c wheel, and it's not a touring rim (Mavic Open Sport). I was told the frame was for 700c and it came without the brake. I'm wondering maybe was this meant to be 27"? 1989 Kuwahara Caravan. 89 seems to be a bit late in the game for a touring bike with 27" wheels no?
I agree that 27” was largely on the way out before this bike came out.
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1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
04-13-24, 06:14 AM
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Does "the Pig" count? Can't say that moniker really fits it now though. I built it from a frameset about 3 weeks ago, mostly from parts I had on hand that were purchased for other projects and never used or were just to good of a deal to pass up so I'd say it definitely qualifies for the "from the frame up". Missed "mucho cheapo" by about $10 though. It's currently on FB Marketplace and while it has received way more attention than I expected I haven't had any serious lookers so if it hasn't sold in 2 weeks I'm pulling the ad and I'll started putting miles on it. I have several others that are getting the cobwebs blown off them and put on the road this year as well so I will most likely have other entries.
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04-19-24, 09:21 AM
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I'm going to look at this tonight:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/...c-95868b70c04d
The seller lives on the ocean so I fully expect the seatpost and/or stem to be frozen in place. But for $15 why not?
Photo from the ad.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/...c-95868b70c04d
The seller lives on the ocean so I fully expect the seatpost and/or stem to be frozen in place. But for $15 why not?
Photo from the ad.
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04-19-24, 09:44 AM
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Frame up: either the newer (by minutes or hours) CapO (named after company founder and owner, Otto Cap) Sieger or the Carlton Franco-Suisse
Both are full Reynolds 531, with double-butted main triangle
All stripped down and ready to rebuild.
Repainted Capo Sieger frame, serial number very close to that of my other Sieger, so who was I to say no to it?
The chrome and original blue paint on the Carlton is nice, but so is the Rathausmann on the seat tube of the Sieger.
Both are full Reynolds 531, with double-butted main triangle
All stripped down and ready to rebuild.
Repainted Capo Sieger frame, serial number very close to that of my other Sieger, so who was I to say no to it?
The chrome and original blue paint on the Carlton is nice, but so is the Rathausmann on the seat tube of the Sieger.
04-20-24, 07:03 AM
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Does this brake look funny? The pad is almost at the end of its arm in the brake there. The further I insert the pad into the brake then the more inward the brake will pivot. This is a 700c wheel, and it's not a touring rim (Mavic Open Sport). I was told the frame was for 700c and it came without the brake. I'm wondering maybe was this meant to be 27"? 1989 Kuwahara Caravan. 89 seems to be a bit late in the game for a touring bike with 27" wheels no?
04-20-24, 11:24 AM
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Yes, Wien / Vienna, where the Capo bicycle company was founded in 1930 and resurrected by Otto Cap's son, Harald, ca. 1990. He is on top of the Vienna statehouse.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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My 1990 Cannondale ST400 originally came with 27 inch rims. When I bought it, it had a 27 in the front, and 700 on the rear. Since the original cantilevers didn't have enough adjustment for 700 rims, the previous owner had installed a Weinmann centerpull brake. That was just one of the many "hacks" they did to keep the bike on the road.
My next question is, what common vintage rear derailleur can work with a 9 speed cassette? I tried a cyclone mk-II long cage and it only goes up to the 8th cog (2nd gear). I think the cable is tight enough, and the adjustment screw is all the way out. The shifter is a Shimano BS50 in friction mode. I have a deore dx somewhere, would that work? Or is it the shifter? This is actually the first time I've tried anything over 7 cogs, so I've no clue.
Alternatively, if I use a smaller cassette such as a 7 or 8 speed, would I need to stick a spacer on the hub? Or no?
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04-21-24, 06:53 AM
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I Took The Plunge
My wife, aka The Enabler, and I drove down to Ocean City and I purchased the Ross that I previously posted. The bike has been sitting for a few years because the seller's grandkids had abandoned it. I handed her the $15.00 asking price but she would only accept $10.00 because I had used my gas to drive there to take it off her hands. I think if I had decided not to buy the bike, she may have paid me to take it away. 
I haven't ridden drop bars or downtube shifters for many years but to stay within the Mucho Cheapo budget I may suck it up for a 100 miles. I'm starting the tear down this afternoon with fingers crossed that everything comes apart nicely.
There might be a pretty nice bike under the grime and rust.
The SunTour Superbe was a pleasant surprise. And I'm not usually a fan of spoke protectors but this is kind of neat.
I haven't ridden drop bars or downtube shifters for many years but to stay within the Mucho Cheapo budget I may suck it up for a 100 miles. I'm starting the tear down this afternoon with fingers crossed that everything comes apart nicely.
There might be a pretty nice bike under the grime and rust.
The SunTour Superbe was a pleasant surprise. And I'm not usually a fan of spoke protectors but this is kind of neat.
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