Trek Emonda Pictures. Let's See Them!
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But the saddle and tape will be replaced SOON!
EDIT: I think this is the saddle I'll end up with:
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This rant isn't about Emonda's ride quality. It's about what they are marketing most about this bike. The lightest production bike from Trek.
WOW! Just checked the Trek website. Trek's entry level S4 for a bike that they claim is their lighest yet weighs 20 lbs? $1600 gets you a heavy 20 lb bike, the model they claim is their lightest yet. A $1500 Allez Comp weighs less.
It costs $2600 to get a 18 pound Emonda? WTF? The whole point of this bike is that it's the lightest yet. Next year with a $300 wheel upgrade, my bike will weigh less. It's already hovering at the 18 lb.
Trek wants $4,500 to give you unremarkable 15 lbs. For less, if you built a Allez E5 Smartweld with SRAM Red, would weigh 15 lbs. $970 for the frame, $2500 for SRAM Red group. $400 for 1500 gram wheels.
But to get what Trek advertises, a bike that weighs less than an Allez with SRAM Red, you have to pay $12,000.
Ultra lightweight
Émonda is the ultimate lightweight road racing machine, pushing the boundaries of what's possible for bicycle weight and ride performance.
But less than $8,000 you won't get the ultimate lightweight road machine. You can get a responsive lightweight Specialized AL for far less.
WOW! Just checked the Trek website. Trek's entry level S4 for a bike that they claim is their lighest yet weighs 20 lbs? $1600 gets you a heavy 20 lb bike, the model they claim is their lightest yet. A $1500 Allez Comp weighs less.
It costs $2600 to get a 18 pound Emonda? WTF? The whole point of this bike is that it's the lightest yet. Next year with a $300 wheel upgrade, my bike will weigh less. It's already hovering at the 18 lb.
Trek wants $4,500 to give you unremarkable 15 lbs. For less, if you built a Allez E5 Smartweld with SRAM Red, would weigh 15 lbs. $970 for the frame, $2500 for SRAM Red group. $400 for 1500 gram wheels.
But to get what Trek advertises, a bike that weighs less than an Allez with SRAM Red, you have to pay $12,000.
Ultra lightweight
Émonda is the ultimate lightweight road racing machine, pushing the boundaries of what's possible for bicycle weight and ride performance.
But less than $8,000 you won't get the ultimate lightweight road machine. You can get a responsive lightweight Specialized AL for far less.
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This rant isn't about Emonda's ride quality. It's about what they are marketing most about this bike. The lightest production bike from Trek.
WOW! Just checked the Trek website. Trek's entry level S4 for a bike that they claim is their lighest yet weighs 20 lbs? $1600 gets you a heavy 20 lb bike, the model they claim is their lightest yet. A $1500 Allez Comp weighs less.
It costs $2600 to get a 18 pound Emonda? WTF? The whole point of this bike is that it's the lightest yet. Next year with a $300 wheel upgrade, my bike will weigh less. It's already hovering at the 18 lb.
Trek wants $4,500 to give you unremarkable 15 lbs. For less, if you built a Allez E5 Smartweld with SRAM Red, would weigh 15 lbs. $970 for the frame, $2500 for SRAM Red group. $400 for 1500 gram wheels.
But to get what Trek advertises, a bike that weighs less than an Allez with SRAM Red, you have to pay $12,000.
Ultra lightweight
Émonda is the ultimate lightweight road racing machine, pushing the boundaries of what's possible for bicycle weight and ride performance.
But less than $8,000 you won't get the ultimate lightweight road machine. You can get a responsive lightweight Specialized AL for far less.
WOW! Just checked the Trek website. Trek's entry level S4 for a bike that they claim is their lighest yet weighs 20 lbs? $1600 gets you a heavy 20 lb bike, the model they claim is their lightest yet. A $1500 Allez Comp weighs less.
It costs $2600 to get a 18 pound Emonda? WTF? The whole point of this bike is that it's the lightest yet. Next year with a $300 wheel upgrade, my bike will weigh less. It's already hovering at the 18 lb.
Trek wants $4,500 to give you unremarkable 15 lbs. For less, if you built a Allez E5 Smartweld with SRAM Red, would weigh 15 lbs. $970 for the frame, $2500 for SRAM Red group. $400 for 1500 gram wheels.
But to get what Trek advertises, a bike that weighs less than an Allez with SRAM Red, you have to pay $12,000.
Ultra lightweight
Émonda is the ultimate lightweight road racing machine, pushing the boundaries of what's possible for bicycle weight and ride performance.
But less than $8,000 you won't get the ultimate lightweight road machine. You can get a responsive lightweight Specialized AL for far less.
But lets be clear about something. There is NO comparison between an Specialized Smartweld frame and a Emonda 500 series frameset which costs about $500 more than a Smartweld. The Emonda 500 series rides night and day better than the Smartweld. For $1K the Smartweld isn't a bad frameset. Me personally? I would rather find a low miles Tarmac Expert, Pro or Sworks for $1.5K versus ANY Smartweld bike...no comparison...or build an Emonda. The weight thing is nebulous. Yes, Trek's marketing is a bit foggy...components obfuscate true frameset weight. The Emonda is an excellent bike however.
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My 2005 OCLV with 9-sp DA weighed 17.8 lbs with cages and pedals. Transferring those same components (except for the crankset and seatpost, which didn't fit) to the Emonda SL frame put me at 15.6 lbs, so I'm not complaining about the weight.
When I built my original bike in 1993, an OCLV frameset cost $1299. The new Emonda SL frameset costs $1429. A $130 difference in 21 years? Yeah, I'm not complaining about the price at all (forget the fact that Trek has now given me two free frameset in that time).
But by all means, feel free to nitpick!
When I built my original bike in 1993, an OCLV frameset cost $1299. The new Emonda SL frameset costs $1429. A $130 difference in 21 years? Yeah, I'm not complaining about the price at all (forget the fact that Trek has now given me two free frameset in that time).
But by all means, feel free to nitpick!
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I really think Trek may have had to make a quick change in plans once they figured out what they had in the Emonda. I think they originally were going for the weight weenie lightest/stiffest bike in the world crowd, and probably had planned a limited production of the lower level models. So all their marketing and press were directed that way. Once they figured out how well the bike rode with the lower level carbon, they didn't really have time to turn around and change everything up. Which would explain why the SL models are so scarce and it is taking them so long to catch up with production. They are still marketing it as the "lightest bike EVAR!!1!!111!", but the real story that has folks buying the SL models is how well it rides for a bike at that price point. I suspect next year we will see a new "aero" Madone with a wider range of models and the Emonda will be the race/dream bike without so much focus on the weight. Or at least that is what Trek will do if they are smart.
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Emonda SL frame in the size I need won't be available until March 2015. Got some time, may go for this. Thinking of building another bike next year with Ultegra.
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I'm curious: Why did Trek give you two free framesets? Are they a sponsor or were there problems with frames?
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I not seeing much saddle to bar drop on these bikes. For the latest/lightest race bike, it doesn't seem to me that any would qualify as having a "competitive fit" (a couple are even bordering on a French fit). The two examples from cashwatson007 show the biggest drop, but I suspect those may be stock photos. Is there something about the geometry that lends itself to a reduced saddle-to-bar drop, or are my eyes deceiving me?
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I rode the 2005 bike until this past September, when I was cleaning it and noticed a crack near the seat tube water bottle mount. Brought the bike to the LBS, they sent a few pics to Trek, and my new Emonda frameset was in the mail the next day. Also no questions asked.
The ironic thing is that I also have an OCLV mountain bike, which I've brutalized, yet that frame's never had a single issue.
Here's an Emonda with a racier, H1 fit:
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^Thanks for the explanation re fit on the Emonda. Re the previous exchanges, it is great that Trek was willing to replace the frames, but no failures would have been better IMO. Hope your new Emonda is trouble-free.
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I'm thinking of replacing my Madone 6.9 SSL frame in the next year or two and have been leaning towards the Emonda frameset, as the new Madone has the bottom mount brake, which I despise. One thing I've always liked about my frame is that it was made in the USA (not just assembled, but made there too.) Now this probably doesn't really matter that much, but when paying $4200cdn for a frameset, little things like that make it a bit easier to swallow.
Does anyone know if the Emonda SLR frameset is still *made* (not just assembled) in the USA?
My Madone 6.9 H1 with WH7900-C24-TL wheels, 7970 Di2, Quarq ELSA p/m 53/39, 11-28 DA cassette, SQLab 611 saddle (264g), and DA9000 pedals weighs in at 15.7lbs. I trust the frame and Trek, which is why I'm looking at an Emonda down the road.
Does anyone know if the Emonda SLR frameset is still *made* (not just assembled) in the USA?
My Madone 6.9 H1 with WH7900-C24-TL wheels, 7970 Di2, Quarq ELSA p/m 53/39, 11-28 DA cassette, SQLab 611 saddle (264g), and DA9000 pedals weighs in at 15.7lbs. I trust the frame and Trek, which is why I'm looking at an Emonda down the road.
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Honestly, I keep hoping my 9700 (the mountain bike frame) buys the farm, because I'd REALLY like a brand new OCLV mountain frame that will take disc brakes (something mine doesn't have), but so far the thing's been bulletproof.
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Q:
Are there ANY Trek frames still built in the U.S.A. ?
Asked on 9/6/2014 by Jeffrey from California
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Hi. The Emonda SLR and Madone 7 series frames are made in the United States.
Answered on 9/14/2014 by Chris at Trek from Waterloo, WI
Are there ANY Trek frames still built in the U.S.A. ?
Asked on 9/6/2014 by Jeffrey from California
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Hi. The Emonda SLR and Madone 7 series frames are made in the United States.
Answered on 9/14/2014 by Chris at Trek from Waterloo, WI
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Me too!
I don't see why not. They already make the thing in the matte grey, in white, and in red. I'd have LOVED to have this one instead:
I don't see why not. They already make the thing in the matte grey, in white, and in red. I'd have LOVED to have this one instead:
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ya, I'm not complaining to much though, I saw an S6 in black/red and it looks good in person, but I like the white SL5 and matte black better.
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I wish they offered an SL frame based Project One. Right now they only have S or SLR as options. So you can build a $3500 bike or a $10000 bike, but not much in between. It is almost like they don't really want to do the custom bikes. If they did, they would make more mid-priced frame options available.
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You can go Project 1 with SLR frame not the S or SL.
My SLR build up is underway will have pictures soon.
My SLR build up is underway will have pictures soon.
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Incorrect. Trek Website shows S and SLR models.
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/proje...#model/emondas
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/proje...#model/emondas
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one thing I found rather nice about the emonda was a couple of the 'little things'. like the RD hanger is annodized to match the bike, on the S6 and S5 they were Red and Orange respectively, not a big deal, but a little detail touch that I was impressed with