How to Secure Cut Cable Ends?
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How to Secure Cut Cable Ends?
I need to re-route the cables on my bike. The cables are good, but as I cut off the cable cup, I have to be extremely careful as I route them back into housings. If I am not careful the cable end will separate and will not fit into housing.
I have used a superglue before. Just put a drop of super glue on cable end and wait for a minute.
The problem with the superglue is that I never have it handy. The small tubes I buy either lost or dry out quickly. So they are good for singly use only. And I need to buy them in advance, which means I have to plan to use it. I am not good at planing.
Is there anything else I can use to keep a cut cable end together?
I have used a superglue before. Just put a drop of super glue on cable end and wait for a minute.
The problem with the superglue is that I never have it handy. The small tubes I buy either lost or dry out quickly. So they are good for singly use only. And I need to buy them in advance, which means I have to plan to use it. I am not good at planing.
Is there anything else I can use to keep a cut cable end together?
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In over 20 years of working on bikes I never had a huge issue with cable ends after cutting. The only ones that were difficult were some brake cables that were supposedly high end, as they had many more strands that were more intertwined and therefore were more prone to fraying when cut.
If one uses the proper cutting tool and then re-twist the cable end a bit if needed, as well as opening the end of the housing with an awl, there is very seldom a problem.
How did we ever get by in the 70's and 80's without Superglue, tension meters, torque wrenches and the Internet? Our shop had one reference book - Sutherland's, and almost no part came with any type of instructions. The rest was handled by logic and a methodical approach.
If one uses the proper cutting tool and then re-twist the cable end a bit if needed, as well as opening the end of the housing with an awl, there is very seldom a problem.
How did we ever get by in the 70's and 80's without Superglue, tension meters, torque wrenches and the Internet? Our shop had one reference book - Sutherland's, and almost no part came with any type of instructions. The rest was handled by logic and a methodical approach.
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If you want to use super glue you can buy 12 tubes of it at Harbor Freight for 2 or 3 dollars. Use what you need and throw the rest of the tube away. When I started with bikes in the 1960s you soldered the ends together. Roger
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It is not a huge issue, just nuisance
Not economical It is better to use $.99 glue tube than $5 cable.
I didn't think about Harbor Freight, I will definitely will buy a pack from them.
I have tried to use solder, but for some reason it did not stay on the cable, but slipped off. How did you do it?
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That was intentional overstatement. It was not even to annoyance level. At worst once in a great while I would have to recut the cable. I know that's not always practical when the cable is already installed, but that's why one needs to leave a decent amount after the clamp.
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It also helps if you rotate the inner wire such that it twists the strands back into alignment as you push it back into the housing, although lined housings are more likely to have the strands catch.
If you have stainless wires you need a special aggressive flux and silver-bearing solder for success. I generally just put in a new wire if I am having trouble. Buying them in bulk helps keep the cost down.
If you have stainless wires you need a special aggressive flux and silver-bearing solder for success. I generally just put in a new wire if I am having trouble. Buying them in bulk helps keep the cost down.
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How did we ever get by in the 70's and 80's without Superglue, tension meters, torque wrenches and the Internet? Our shop had one reference book - Sutherland's, and almost no part came with any type of instructions. The rest was handled by logic and a methodical approach.
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If you use a torch and a pair of vise grips to cut the cable in the first place it will never fray again. Just heat up the cable where you want to cut it then twist the vise grips in the direction of the strands of cable and it makes a perfect end.
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At an Arts & crafts store I managed to find a solder that would handle just like regular rosin-core solder for an electrical iron, and still whet and stick to SS cables.
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How did we ever get by in the 70's and 80's without Superglue, tension meters, torque wrenches and the Internet? Our shop had one reference book - Sutherland's, and almost no part came with any type of instructions. The rest was handled by logic and a methodical approach.
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Each period has had it's own challenges. My point was mainly that it does not always take a complex solution to solve a problem.
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I still have my Post Versalog slide rule complete with leather case, belt hanging loop and 113 page instruction book that cost over $25 in 1960. These days you can buy an electronic scientific calculator with vastly greater range and accuracy for less than half of that.
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I can agree about the torque wrench, but tension meters are indispensible for scratch builds of wheels. Any approximate method of setting spoke tension is just a recipe for short-lived spokes. Very few of us have the sensory qualifications to build wheels by tone or feel.
Yes, some changes since that time call for a different approach, but there are still relatively few wheels that call for a tension meter and relatively few situations that require a torque wrench, and a lot of people who seem to think that they are required items. As for simpler, we had French, Swiss, Italian, English, and Whitworth (Raleigh) threading "standards," English and Metric nuts and bolts, well over a dozen common freewheels, each with it's own remover, three different spoke nipple sizes, and this formula to use to determine spoke length: .
Each period has had it's own challenges. My point was mainly that it does not always take a complex solution to solve a problem.
Each period has had it's own challenges. My point was mainly that it does not always take a complex solution to solve a problem.
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Wow, I haven't seen one of those demo slide rules since high school chemistry class in the late 1950's! Where did you get it?
I still have my Post Versalog slide rule complete with leather case, belt hanging loop and 113 page instruction book that cost over $25 in 1960. These days you can buy an electronic scientific calculator with vastly greater range and accuracy for less than half of that.
I still have my Post Versalog slide rule complete with leather case, belt hanging loop and 113 page instruction book that cost over $25 in 1960. These days you can buy an electronic scientific calculator with vastly greater range and accuracy for less than half of that.
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Buy Henkel (German company marketed in the US as Loctite) superglue. It comes in small bottles that are designed to slow the drying out of the glue and be easy to open. Provided you always close the bottle quickly, the glue can last for 2 years after first use. Containers for many US born products have seemingly no thought put into them .
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I use Gorilla superglue in 15g container. I store it upside down and get plenty of use, haven't thrown any away yet.
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Buy Henkel (German company marketed in the US as Loctite) superglue. It comes in small bottles that are designed to slow the drying out of the glue and be easy to open. Provided you always close the bottle quickly, the glue can last for 2 years after first use. Containers for many US born products have seemingly no thought put into them .