Which bike defines America?
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Which bike defines America?
So I'm in a bit of American mood as of late. I don't know if it's because of hanging around with the people here at BF or the lovely girl that has crossed my path earlier this year (who is of American descent), but I suddenly find myself eating peanut butter-jelly sandwiches whist reading the old classic paperback novels or watching westerns. Further exploring this transatlantic line the thought occurred me - which bicycle defines America?
Is it a grand and easy cruiser, like the Monark Silverking? Is it the paramount of the bike industry from Schwinn? Is it one of the early high-wheelers and safeties that sparked road construction, urban sprawl and female emancipation (if some accounts are to be believed)? Could it be one of the customs in which the old world craft reached it's pinnacle in the new one, for instance a Carlsbad Masi or one of the many current independent frame builders?
The reasons for nominating can be manifold - technological, cultural, economic or even personal... As usual, the thread is useless without pics, but no other restrictions to the answers apply. I'm sure there's no definite answer, but I'd like to hear your nominations.
Is it a grand and easy cruiser, like the Monark Silverking? Is it the paramount of the bike industry from Schwinn? Is it one of the early high-wheelers and safeties that sparked road construction, urban sprawl and female emancipation (if some accounts are to be believed)? Could it be one of the customs in which the old world craft reached it's pinnacle in the new one, for instance a Carlsbad Masi or one of the many current independent frame builders?
The reasons for nominating can be manifold - technological, cultural, economic or even personal... As usual, the thread is useless without pics, but no other restrictions to the answers apply. I'm sure there's no definite answer, but I'd like to hear your nominations.
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Seriously though, the Cruiser is the original American bike, and from the cruiser two other American bikes have descended: MTB and BMX.
The cruiser reflects the American obsession with cars and motor vehicles.. the original cruisers were meant to look just like motorcycles without motors. MTBs and BMX bikes both evolved from cruiser bikes, and BMX especially retains that motorcycle-inspired vibe (the M in BMX even standing for motor). MTBs on the other hand reveal our exploratory spirit; our country is large and vast, with many wide open spaces to explore.
Finally, cruisers, BMX and MTBs are all more recreational than utilitarian, which is in line with the fact most Americans view bikes more as toys than useful vehicles.
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Well, it wouldn't be competitive, we leave that to the Japanese.
Well, it wouldn't be all that beautiful, we leave that to the Europeans.
Well, it wouldn't be cheap, we leave that to outsourcing everywhere else.
However, we can dress up like a clown and still conquer, so the 7-11 Huffy it is.
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or whatever Curious George rides.
Well, it wouldn't be all that beautiful, we leave that to the Europeans.
Well, it wouldn't be cheap, we leave that to outsourcing everywhere else.
However, we can dress up like a clown and still conquer, so the 7-11 Huffy it is.
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or whatever Curious George rides.
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The couch bike guys are from Canada.
30-40 years ago, Schwinn defined America in the bicycle sense.
Now, it's Trek.
30-40 years ago, Schwinn defined America in the bicycle sense.
Now, it's Trek.
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I'd have to say it would be the namesake Schwinn American, in black or red, with a Wald basket and a non-drive side photo.
... and a doggie.
... and a doggie.
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Seriously though, the Cruiser is the original American bike, and from the cruiser two other American bikes have descended: MTB and BMX.
The cruiser reflects the American obsession with cars and motor vehicles.. the original cruisers were meant to look just like motorcycles without motors. MTBs and BMX bikes both evolved from cruiser bikes, and BMX especially retains that motorcycle-inspired vibe (the M in BMX even standing for motor). MTBs on the other hand reveal our exploratory spirit; our country is large and vast, with many wide open spaces to explore.
Finally, cruisers, BMX and MTBs are all more recreational than utilitarian, which is in line with the fact most Americans view bikes more as toys than useful vehicles.
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And I'm afraid the bike itself would be less Paramount, and more likely a beach cruiser or a Varsity.
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you can tell because they aren't fat enough
I'm pretty sure the original BMX bikes were Schwinn Stingrays.. i'm not a big bmx guy
The Cruiser also led to the "lowrider" bike, which I think is also a truly American bike.. again taking styling cues from automobiles
I'm pretty sure the original BMX bikes were Schwinn Stingrays.. i'm not a big bmx guy
The Cruiser also led to the "lowrider" bike, which I think is also a truly American bike.. again taking styling cues from automobiles
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America cannot be defined by a bicycle. Sorry, it just can't.
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For as far the development of competition bicycles I think the mountainbike is an important contribution from the US. The roadrace scene tended to be very conservative. MTB development went very rapidly and the market adopted the techniques easily. Of course this businessmodel generated more profits and jobs than a conservative model. Nowadays people can blow their money on buying a new roadbike each couple of years, because the old one is perceived as rubbish within a blink of the eye.
The US lifted the bike to a next level as consumer product.
The US lifted the bike to a next level as consumer product.
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Simply because of its popularity among the masses, I would say the Schwinn Varsity. Few bikes have as much recognition as the Varsity. Also, it seems like everyone has owned one at one time. This is a Schwinn Varsity Tourist.
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Italuminium, As far as truely an American innovation, the mountain bike.
As a kid in the '60s the cruiser, usually a Schwinn or a Columbia defined that era, followed by the highly successful bannana seat bicycles, again led by Schwinn with it's StingRay model. I had a black Schwinn American very similar to the bike in post #7, BTW.
While the Paramount was a quality road bike, it was based more on European engineering of the day, a good thing. It probably wasn't until the mid '80s when American road bikes, exploring alternate tubing materials and diameters started to become popular world wide, but again they don't really define the 'American bike'.
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As a kid in the '60s the cruiser, usually a Schwinn or a Columbia defined that era, followed by the highly successful bannana seat bicycles, again led by Schwinn with it's StingRay model. I had a black Schwinn American very similar to the bike in post #7, BTW.
While the Paramount was a quality road bike, it was based more on European engineering of the day, a good thing. It probably wasn't until the mid '80s when American road bikes, exploring alternate tubing materials and diameters started to become popular world wide, but again they don't really define the 'American bike'.
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For as far the development of competition bicycles I think the mountainbike is an important contribution from the US. The roadrace scene tended to be very conservative. MTB development went very rapidly and the market adopted the techniques easily. Of course this businessmodel generated more profits and jobs than a conservative model. Nowadays people can blow their money on buying a new roadbike each couple of years, because the old one is perceived as rubbish within a blink of the eye.
The US lifted the bike to a next level as consumer product.
The US lifted the bike to a next level as consumer product.
True, about the MTB. And let's not forget that the US played a large part both in the development of the bicycle and the rise of bicycle racing as a serious sport. I don't think that helps answer the question, though.
The most "classic american" image I can think of, involving a bicycle, is of a boy delivering newspapers. The bicycle has balloon tires, fenders, and a gas tank. It has to have a gas tank.
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True, about the MTB. And let's not forget that the US played a large part both in the development of the bicycle and the rise of bicycle racing as a serious sport. I don't think that helps answer the question, though.
The most "classic american" image I can think of, involving a bicycle, is of a boy delivering newspapers. The bicycle has balloon tires, fenders, and a gas tank. It has to have a gas tank.
The most "classic american" image I can think of, involving a bicycle, is of a boy delivering newspapers. The bicycle has balloon tires, fenders, and a gas tank. It has to have a gas tank.
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Schwinn Black Phantom.
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Trek 720 was the first thing that popped into my head when I read the title. I cant help but think of the sheer number of Americans who explored this country by bike in the 80's on a 720.
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40 years ago I'd definitely say the Schwinn Varsity.
20 years ago it was definitely a Cannondale MTB.
Today?
I guess Trek, whatever their most popular/cheapest hybrid is...regardless of where they're built.
20 years ago it was definitely a Cannondale MTB.
Today?
I guess Trek, whatever their most popular/cheapest hybrid is...regardless of where they're built.
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I don't know - 40 years ago the Stingray and it's variants were pretty iconic bikes, and reflected well the quintessentially American muscle car culture. Much as the previous Aerocycle, autocycle, and Black Phamtom/Panther reflected American fascination with airplanes and big cars.