Does anyone use wing mirrors?
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I have a super mount for a helmet mounted mirror (3rd Eye Hardshell Helmet - 03, the one that clamps on). I never liked either the not-so-secure clamp to the slippery plastic nor the location the mirror liked to take, so I made my own bracket out of aluminum sheet bent to suit, then fiberglassed on both sides with cloth and epoxy resin. Mount it to the helmet visor with two small sexy screws. Really nice! Only drawback - on a prototype basis, quite labor intensive. I wish that 1) mirror makers and helmet makers would find a standard like say 2 screw holes and a agreed on gentle radius and 2) make these brackets out of plastic (20 cents?) and sell them for $4. Cool part is that I just snap off the visor and mirror to clean the helmet. (I've now done both the Bell Image (or some similar name; it is discontinued but roughly the Formula) and POC Trabec.)
I make the brackets to last several helmets but for $4 I would have no trouble buying new ones each helmet.
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I make the brackets to last several helmets but for $4 I would have no trouble buying new ones each helmet.
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i had a fantastic blackburn bar-end mirror i'd used for many years that finally died. not much selection in terms of bicycle mirrors here in china, mostly garbage bendy armed with plastic clips.
want something solid and durable so checked taobao for the motorcycle mirrors. they deal with shock and vibration right? you can find the same chinese motorcycle stuff on ebay.
note that moto bars seem to have the same external dimension - 22mm - but a larger internal as they are thinner wall steel. the bar end plugs will be too large by a couple mm. if rubber plug, they can be cut down with a razor, others you need to find a replacement rubber plug.
some of the mirrors have a plug that works like a bar extension, and the mirror arm slips onto that. in that case the extension has the same external dimension as the bars, so you can clip the mirror arm directly onto your bars.
decent prices, you get a pair for $3-5 bucks in china, maybe $15 in the usa.
this one has a plug expansion too large for some bars. the metal is crappy and corrodes and flakes quickly. the folding arm is a nice feature, but doesn't hold tight enough.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-...s/352100937769
this one has a rubber plug you can cut down to fit inside your bars. better quality housing, and very little vibration. the end plug part is removable and will mount directly on the bars. drawback is the arm bend....if you have bar ends, you can set up the mirror to use on the grips OR on the bar ends, but NOT both.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-...d/113163487761
and finally, these no-arm bar ends are like awesome. very simple, visible when on grips or bar-ends, isolated so no vibration at all. the expander is too large, so i replaced with a rubber plug. didn't see 'em on ebay, so here's a taobao listing.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...d=522869820117
i was planning on doing a write up and starting a new thread but am too embarrassed - i don't have any links to youtube channels or webbylogs to monetize it....
want something solid and durable so checked taobao for the motorcycle mirrors. they deal with shock and vibration right? you can find the same chinese motorcycle stuff on ebay.
note that moto bars seem to have the same external dimension - 22mm - but a larger internal as they are thinner wall steel. the bar end plugs will be too large by a couple mm. if rubber plug, they can be cut down with a razor, others you need to find a replacement rubber plug.
some of the mirrors have a plug that works like a bar extension, and the mirror arm slips onto that. in that case the extension has the same external dimension as the bars, so you can clip the mirror arm directly onto your bars.
decent prices, you get a pair for $3-5 bucks in china, maybe $15 in the usa.
this one has a plug expansion too large for some bars. the metal is crappy and corrodes and flakes quickly. the folding arm is a nice feature, but doesn't hold tight enough.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-...s/352100937769
this one has a rubber plug you can cut down to fit inside your bars. better quality housing, and very little vibration. the end plug part is removable and will mount directly on the bars. drawback is the arm bend....if you have bar ends, you can set up the mirror to use on the grips OR on the bar ends, but NOT both.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-...d/113163487761
and finally, these no-arm bar ends are like awesome. very simple, visible when on grips or bar-ends, isolated so no vibration at all. the expander is too large, so i replaced with a rubber plug. didn't see 'em on ebay, so here's a taobao listing.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...d=522869820117
i was planning on doing a write up and starting a new thread but am too embarrassed - i don't have any links to youtube channels or webbylogs to monetize it....
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Different ones attach different ways. Some attach with adhesive, some with a small clamp on visor, some grip on to eyeglasses, lots of options.
In post number 7 above I showed a Third Eye brand one that clamps on to my helmet visor. That is this one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/THIRD-EYE-H...w/220929802215
It is the one called the hard shell mirror.
Third EyeŽ Mirrors
The way I clamp it on it only fits on the left side, if I was to bike tour in the UK where they drive on the other side of the road I would be looking for an alternative.
I like that it has a threaded clamp, it takes several minutes to remove and re-install, but I can take it off for travel to prevent damage.
In post number 7 above I showed a Third Eye brand one that clamps on to my helmet visor. That is this one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/THIRD-EYE-H...w/220929802215
It is the one called the hard shell mirror.
Third EyeŽ Mirrors
The way I clamp it on it only fits on the left side, if I was to bike tour in the UK where they drive on the other side of the road I would be looking for an alternative.
I like that it has a threaded clamp, it takes several minutes to remove and re-install, but I can take it off for travel to prevent damage.
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It depends on the helmet and the mirror. Different mirrors attach different ways and may depend on the helmet having a certain shape. My Take-a-Look depends on having some kind of thin edge to attach to, and I attach it to the helmet visor. You'll have to find something that works with your helmet. What kind do you have, BTW?
Here's a picture of mine. The only way I could get the mirror on was upside-down. You want the prongs pointing down so gravity works with you to keep it on, but I couldn't make it fit, I had to do it upside-down. So then I needed some way to be sure it doesn't fall off going over a bump, so I used a couple twisties just to be sure. I could have gone with something more permanent like a zip-tie or tape, but I also need to be able to take the mirror on and off for some activities*, which the twisties let me do.
Some activities: I use the bike for some hikes, in which case I clip the helmet to the back of my pack for the hiking portion of the program. The helmet rolls around back there, and there's no way the mirror would survive, so it comes off. Also some day I want to bike down and hook up with public transit, and same issue there.
Here's a picture of mine. The only way I could get the mirror on was upside-down. You want the prongs pointing down so gravity works with you to keep it on, but I couldn't make it fit, I had to do it upside-down. So then I needed some way to be sure it doesn't fall off going over a bump, so I used a couple twisties just to be sure. I could have gone with something more permanent like a zip-tie or tape, but I also need to be able to take the mirror on and off for some activities*, which the twisties let me do.
Some activities: I use the bike for some hikes, in which case I clip the helmet to the back of my pack for the hiking portion of the program. The helmet rolls around back there, and there's no way the mirror would survive, so it comes off. Also some day I want to bike down and hook up with public transit, and same issue there.
I however find it to stay on perfectly well, the design of the 3 pt attachemtn system is such that you can adjust it for diff thicknesses of things, so you can put the right pressure to stay on.
Not permanently attched, but works pretty darn well.
I have put a bit of tape on it at times, but at times not, still a good design overall.
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I also got the newer model but haven't tried it yet. it has a shorter arm & is supposed to provide a better view. lately I've been using a new helmet w a face shield but haven't ridden on roads in a while. I might have to ditch the shield to use my glasses if I can't rig it to work with the new helmet. for me, the take-a-look works best in a more upright position. when I'm down in the drops my left shoulder obscures some of my view. but it still better than nothing
took this pic while riding holding the camera within the sight line, meaning where I could see it where the oncoming traffic would be
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Italian road bike mirror
I used to have a helmet/glasses mirrors, Few years ago I switched to Italian road bike mirrors on all of my bikes.
https://www.italianroadbikemirror.com/
It made out of glass and it is very clear, way better than plastic mirrors. I am thinking of adding another one on the other side of my bars on my long distance bike.
Took a little bit to get used to it after the helmet mounted mirror, but now it is OK. It is on a small side but not dorky .
https://www.italianroadbikemirror.com/
It made out of glass and it is very clear, way better than plastic mirrors. I am thinking of adding another one on the other side of my bars on my long distance bike.
Took a little bit to get used to it after the helmet mounted mirror, but now it is OK. It is on a small side but not dorky .
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Avoid helmet, or eye glass mounted mirrors. In a crash you could lose an eye or cut your face up.
https://ortliebusa.com/product/bike-mirror-10/
My cateye mirror works fine.
https://ortliebusa.com/product/bike-mirror-10/
My cateye mirror works fine.
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Avoid helmet, or eye glass mounted mirrors. In a crash you could lose an eye or cut your face up.
https://ortliebusa.com/product/bike-mirror-10/
My cateye mirror works fine.
https://ortliebusa.com/product/bike-mirror-10/
My cateye mirror works fine.
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Is a wing mirror one that mounts on a helmet, or on a handlebar? If it's the handlebar type, I started using a Mountain Mirrycle (sp?) about four years ago and I would never ride without one again. I thought it would vibrate too much to be of any use, but I don't notice any vibration at all. GREAT accessory.
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+1. even listening to headphones these tell me when to ditch off to the shoulder. Turn up and down from the mounting base not the arm.
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My recent trike came to me with mirrors on the bar ends. I dislike them. Id much rather have a motorcycle style mirror. Not sure if I will bother.
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I am in the mirror-as-indispensable-accessory camp. I feel safer when I've got one. I tried one or two helmet mounted models, but they didn't work for me. For many years now I have ridden with a mirror that velcros to the hood of my brake lever, and it works well enough.
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that was considerate of you to pull over to let them by, only takes a few seconds.
The real times a mirror (any mirror that gives you a proper view) really saves your life are when it gives you those few seconds to realize the truck coming behind you, perhaps on a downhill, so he cant slow down greatly, is going to meet up right where you are at the same time an oncoming truck, or car pulling a trailer, or whatever, and there is no wide shoulder, and probably a corner involved that interferes with your line of sight front or back.
while its only been a handful of times, well a few handfuls, mirrors were a huge part in saving my life and giving me that heads up that allowed me to take proper action in situations that could have very easily been dire.
its also just part of my routine to regularly check my mirror, and especially when a corner,downhill or narrowing of road is involved, and wider vehicles getting into the situation.
we wouldnt drive our cars with out mirrors, and our vulnerability on two wheels combined with great closing speeds means we have to use this simple tool to reduce and manage real risks.
The real times a mirror (any mirror that gives you a proper view) really saves your life are when it gives you those few seconds to realize the truck coming behind you, perhaps on a downhill, so he cant slow down greatly, is going to meet up right where you are at the same time an oncoming truck, or car pulling a trailer, or whatever, and there is no wide shoulder, and probably a corner involved that interferes with your line of sight front or back.
while its only been a handful of times, well a few handfuls, mirrors were a huge part in saving my life and giving me that heads up that allowed me to take proper action in situations that could have very easily been dire.
its also just part of my routine to regularly check my mirror, and especially when a corner,downhill or narrowing of road is involved, and wider vehicles getting into the situation.
we wouldnt drive our cars with out mirrors, and our vulnerability on two wheels combined with great closing speeds means we have to use this simple tool to reduce and manage real risks.
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Trucks , do it pulling modular homes , those wing mirrors stick out a lot, so be mindful of those
, especially when the truck is returning from the delivery... the mirrors are still there.. but the wide load pilot truck is not ..
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, especially when the truck is returning from the delivery... the mirrors are still there.. but the wide load pilot truck is not ..
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What's the difference between the take a look compact and original? I want to mount it onto a bike helmet. I've read the compact is not able to do this?
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--again, I havent actually seen a compact version, didnt know there was one.
do look at this video done by this couple who rode around the world, their video review sold me on trying a Take-a-Look.
Take-A-Look Mirror | TravellingTwo: Bicycle Touring Around The World
This video review must be 9 or 10 years old now, and everything she says about it has been exactly my experience--tough, infinitely flexible in setting it up at the mounting point (three contact points on a stiff pivot system) for whatever thickness whatsit it gets stuck onto, whether a helmet visor or eyeglasses arm, and, yes the metal rods can be easily bent slightly with no harm/issues at all.
Hold mirror adjustments very securely, never sags or changes position on its own.
And yes, mine too has had bumps and bangs for 8 or 9 years and is still in great shape.
and yes, can get flipped easily to the right hand side of your head if you ride in the UK or Japan or New Zealand.
ps, looked at the website, here is the page clearly showing the adjustability
https://www.bikepeddlerbikeproducts.com/events
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Hi, I tried mirrors of various kinds but they didn't work out for me. I had more joy using the Garmin Varia Radar, which I really like.
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for some reason I'm thinking the compact version has a larger mirror, or because it is closer to your eye, the mirror appears to show a larger image? I should really try it out, cuz I bought it at least a whole year ago!
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As far as bike mounted mirrors go, which are considerably less utility and have a narrower angle of view because you can't swivel them like you can one mounted on your glasses using your neck, the best I have seen is th Bike Eyez mirror. Problem here is that it will be blocked by panniers. The other is the Italian Bike Mirror which is the most sleek of the bike mounted mirrors but you're limited in view like you would be with any bar mounted mirror. The Italian Bike Mirror is also almost immune from being knocked out of alignment.
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I'm one of the "always" wusses. Actually, a couple of posts back there was a video about wearing a take-a-look by attaching it to a helmet visor instead of one's glasses. Never considered it as none of my helmets have a visor. When wearing it on my glasses, if I reached up to wipe my brow, or reposition my glasses, etc. I invariably bumped them. On the helmet might help as I do prefer their more diminutive size.
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I'm one of the "always" wusses. Actually, a couple of posts back there was a video about wearing a take-a-look by attaching it to a helmet visor instead of one's glasses. Never considered it as none of my helmets have a visor. When wearing it on my glasses, if I reached up to wipe my brow, or reposition my glasses, etc. I invariably bumped them. On the helmet might help as I do prefer their more diminutive size.
If you had the regular TAL mirror, I'd bet you did hit it more often. If you use the compact version, I'm positive you'd find it to be less of an issue by a significant amount - would be worth a try.
Good job on the helmet. I'm right there with you. My family has had way too much experience with traumatic brain injury and it's nothing to fool with for anyone much less anyone well over 25 yo. That's not being a wuss, that's being smart.
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