Brompton - CHPT3 vs. Black Lacquer
03-08-18, 01:10 PM
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That is an upgrade I would probably wouldn't do until the headset that is already installed died. I love King headsets but to me not worth the cost at this point in the game. The wait must be the most difficult part at this point.
03-08-18, 02:21 PM
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I certainly wouldn't replace the headset on functional grounds, so it's a matter of spending the money for blingy coolness. Which, let's be honest, is a perfectly valid reason!
03-08-18, 03:07 PM
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After owning a few Bromptons over the years, and talking to a lot of other owners -
headset is not the 1st thing I'd worry about.
-It's nice that Brompton includes a pump with most models(except superlight/titanium).
But just like most portable pumps; it sucks. I carry a Topeak Morph G.
-Depending on you weight, how much you stand, masher or spinner; right/drive side pedal
gives up too fast for some. Some in as little as three months.
MKS ESPRIT SUPERIOR PEDALS by 1nterceptor, on Flickr
-Front carrier block is a very useful option. Can accept many kinds of luggage; big or small.
I'm using a Demano messenger bag since 2013:
headset is not the 1st thing I'd worry about.
-It's nice that Brompton includes a pump with most models(except superlight/titanium).
But just like most portable pumps; it sucks. I carry a Topeak Morph G.
-Depending on you weight, how much you stand, masher or spinner; right/drive side pedal
gives up too fast for some. Some in as little as three months.
MKS ESPRIT SUPERIOR PEDALS by 1nterceptor, on Flickr-Front carrier block is a very useful option. Can accept many kinds of luggage; big or small.
I'm using a Demano messenger bag since 2013:
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03-09-18, 03:44 AM
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Get the cheap Tange sealed bearing headset which fits, I forget the name. I did years back and it's perfect.
03-09-18, 09:39 AM
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Now I need to decide whether I want to throw on my Brooks B-17 narrow (over 500 grams!) or just get a Fabric saddle (closer to 200 grams). I know this isn't a weight weenie build but the Brooks just sounds like it'll be an anchor!
03-09-18, 10:22 AM
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It's a 1.125" OD, threaded fork, 1" ID, get the measurements from the frame when you remove the stock parts..
03-09-18, 10:38 AM
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As much as the Brooks look great, I agree they are boat anchors. I finally took mine off because I could never get use to it and I replaced it with a Specialized Avatar Gel. The bike doesn't have that classic look anymore but that's the price I paid. I wouldn't mind trying the Brooks C series saddles.
03-09-18, 11:07 AM
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Thanks. I read about that one too. Velo Orange has a Grand Cru one too in a couple different colors for a fraction of the Chris King price...
Now I need to decide whether I want to throw on my Brooks B-17 narrow (over 500 grams!) or just get a Fabric saddle (closer to 200 grams). I know this isn't a weight weenie build but the Brooks just sounds like it'll be an anchor!
Now I need to decide whether I want to throw on my Brooks B-17 narrow (over 500 grams!) or just get a Fabric saddle (closer to 200 grams). I know this isn't a weight weenie build but the Brooks just sounds like it'll be an anchor!
03-09-18, 01:39 PM
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lol ... Just saw the thread.... I have both of them, chpt3 6spd and Black Lacquer 2spd. Bought last year from Thanksgiving sale with 15% off and free shipping.
I live in bay area. When I go to San Francisco, I used to ride my Titanium Ni edition 6 speed but now I just ride my 2 speed Ti Brompton. (12T/17T) The bike is about 8kg so it is easier for me to carry around the bart stations and cycling up hills in San Francisco.
BTW, I like the Brompton grips because of lightweight. However, I replaced them with Ergon Brooks grips because they caused my hand numbness.
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Here is the picture of my Black Raw Laquer 2 speed. My chpt3 is on the shelf.
I live in bay area. When I go to San Francisco, I used to ride my Titanium Ni edition 6 speed but now I just ride my 2 speed Ti Brompton. (12T/17T) The bike is about 8kg so it is easier for me to carry around the bart stations and cycling up hills in San Francisco.
BTW, I like the Brompton grips because of lightweight. However, I replaced them with Ergon Brooks grips because they caused my hand numbness.
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Here is the picture of my Black Raw Laquer 2 speed. My chpt3 is on the shelf.
I posted a picture of a knife I have on a knife forum I belong to, and shortly thereafter received a fairly creepy PM from someone else on that forum that with data encrypted on that iPhone picture...he knew where I (and my knife(s)) lived.
I'm cautious, but not paranoid but that gave me pause. An unintended consequence of today's technology I never thought of.
Just saying...one Brompton is worth more than my ENTIRE knife collection.
03-09-18, 01:57 PM
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Just an FYI-
I posted a picture of a knife I have on a knife forum I belong to, and shortly thereafter received a fairly creepy PM from someone else on that forum that with data encrypted on that iPhone picture...he knew where I (and my knife(s)) lived.
I'm cautious, but not paranoid but that gave me pause. An unintended consequence of today's technology I never thought of.
Just saying...one Brompton is worth more than my ENTIRE knife collection.
I posted a picture of a knife I have on a knife forum I belong to, and shortly thereafter received a fairly creepy PM from someone else on that forum that with data encrypted on that iPhone picture...he knew where I (and my knife(s)) lived.
I'm cautious, but not paranoid but that gave me pause. An unintended consequence of today's technology I never thought of.
Just saying...one Brompton is worth more than my ENTIRE knife collection.
03-09-18, 02:07 PM
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Point being, there's a lot of hidden data to be "mined" encrypted in a lot of digital media...photos included.
I was surprised a picture of a pocket knife I own essentially held my residence address in it's inner sanctum and more surprised someone would actually look at that data...
YMMV
03-09-18, 02:27 PM
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I was speaking of my experience with a picture I posted elsewhere...w/o any boxes or labels showing.
Point being, there's a lot of hidden data to be "mined" encrypted in a lot of digital media...photos included.
I was surprised a picture of a pocket knife I own essentially held my residence address in it's inner sanctum and more surprised someone would actually look at that data...
YMMV
Point being, there's a lot of hidden data to be "mined" encrypted in a lot of digital media...photos included.
I was surprised a picture of a pocket knife I own essentially held my residence address in it's inner sanctum and more surprised someone would actually look at that data...
YMMV
03-10-18, 03:46 PM
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Oh, there is no protection there of bearings against water, i.e. Phil Woods are fair weather BBs. When swapping BB I go for TA Axix Pro with Ti axle.
03-10-18, 04:54 PM
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They do offer a mud guard, + to add another seal, slip O rings on before fitting the crank arms..
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03-10-18, 07:20 PM
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I have some velo orange cartridge headsets that have given me years of flawless service but my brompton has a CK Gripnut which has given me 0 problems. nice not to worry about headsets, bottom brackets or hubs. I can remember when routine maintenance was required. Still when my campy bb, headset and hubs are freshly lubed and adjusted properly they do just fine, too.
03-10-18, 10:03 PM
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Personally I think replacing headset or BB right away is bonkers. It's your money if you like the bling, but a new Brompton doesn't need it.
03-13-18, 09:44 AM
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Thanks for the being the voice of reason! I was getting carried away. Just keeping it as is for now. Just going to throw my Brooks B-17 narrow on there and call it a day for now (it'll match nicely since even the rails are black).
PS: Just got word that the bike has arrived at the bike shop!
03-14-18, 04:57 AM
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Thanks for the being the voice of reason! I was getting carried away. Just keeping it as is for now. Just going to throw my Brooks B-17 narrow on there and call it a day for now (it'll match nicely since even the rails are black).
PS: Just got word that the bike has arrived at the bike shop!
PS: Just got word that the bike has arrived at the bike shop!
03-14-18, 07:50 AM
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Since the current bottom brackets are not the ones fitted to your bike, presumably no replacement is necessary. Also, it's a brand new bike. Changing a bottom bracket would neatly void the warranty.