Surly Cross-Check "shortage"
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Surly Cross-Check "shortage"
This, from the most recent Surly blog post:
I've been trying to read between the lines and there's not much to find. How do you get a year shortage of such a basic bike? Perhaps they are modernizing the frame or substantially changing the spec for MY 2021 and want to sell out old stock?The rest of the blog post is about building up a Pack Rat as a single speed commuter, you might enjoy:https://surlybikes.com/blog/pack_rat...ke_it_your_own
Folks who are looking to get a complete Cross-Check bicycle from SURLY are going to notice a shortage of said beasts for the next year or so. Interested parties will still be able to get Cross-Check framesets but complete, stock bicycles won’t be available for a long while.
...Rest assured we are actively working on it.
...Rest assured we are actively working on it.
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Probably a supply issue with the component spec. If they can't get the components they want, or get them at a price they're willing to pay, complete bikes will be a no-go until the issue is ironed out. Meanwhile, the frames are readily available because they're not tied to component availability. Just a guess.
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Probably a supply issue with the component spec. If they can't get the components they want, or get them at a price they're willing to pay, complete bikes will be a no-go until the issue is ironed out. Meanwhile, the frames are readily available because they're not tied to component availability. Just a guess.
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My conjecture is that they're going to rework the frame for MY 2021. Smaller wheel sizes for smaller frame sizes, add disk tabs, get rid of the horizontal drops and make it adaptable to QR or TA like the "knot-boost" on the Monkey
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Well heck, just saw this on the Soma Fab facebook page:
Betcha...
Been thinking about how to evolve the Double Cross Disc.
Over the years we've tweaked it into as good a "ride-it-all" frame (that still fits older modern parts that many people still want to use) as we can.
Is that a relevant and desirable concept for 2020 ???
...Right now we are considering just changing the fork to a thru-axle and the rear to a modular non-sliding dropout that is thru-axle but can be swapped out to fit 135mm QR. No tapered headtube or different BB standard.
Chime in if you have an opinion
Over the years we've tweaked it into as good a "ride-it-all" frame (that still fits older modern parts that many people still want to use) as we can.
Is that a relevant and desirable concept for 2020 ???
...Right now we are considering just changing the fork to a thru-axle and the rear to a modular non-sliding dropout that is thru-axle but can be swapped out to fit 135mm QR. No tapered headtube or different BB standard.
Chime in if you have an opinion
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Must be tough being the product manager and looking for fringe-about-to-become-cool concepts all the time.
I wonder how much market share the Cross Check has lost to gravel, "all road," and "adventure" bikes?
I wonder how much market share the Cross Check has lost to gravel, "all road," and "adventure" bikes?
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Yeh. My larger point is that its overpriced for the really outdated build that it has. "Enthusiasts" know that crosscheck is a cool frame with a lot of flexibility, but anyone new to the market would run down that spec list and quickly dismiss it. Maybe it would live on best as just a frameset.
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Yeh. My larger point is that its overpriced for the really outdated build that it has. "Enthusiasts" know that crosscheck is a cool frame with a lot of flexibility, but anyone new to the market would run down that spec list and quickly dismiss it. Maybe it would live on best as just a frameset.
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Yeh. My larger point is that its overpriced for the really outdated build that it has. "Enthusiasts" know that crosscheck is a cool frame with a lot of flexibility, but anyone new to the market would run down that spec list and quickly dismiss it. Maybe it would live on best as just a frameset.
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You make a good point - if you're not too hung up on wheel size, there are no shortage of horiz dropout, quill stem MTB's which you could mold and shape in to just about anything for less than $20 initial purchase price... I am thinking about doing exactly this - making a single speed, rigid MTB for fun riding near my house for next to nothing. I might even use bull horns just to keep it weird.
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I wonder if the CC will be the next bike to get axed after the Pacer...
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With kids now, I wish there were junior size Surly frames to build up for them, but it really wouldn't fit with all the beer-and-pot-and-cussing marketing. 5yo will need a new 20" bike around next summer or Christmas. Will it be a MTB? hmmm
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Yeh. My larger point is that its overpriced for the really outdated build that it has. "Enthusiasts" know that crosscheck is a cool frame with a lot of flexibility, but anyone new to the market would run down that spec list and quickly dismiss it. Maybe it would live on best as just a frameset.
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quick release axles (most bikes now are thruaxle)
steel fork (most now are carbon)
130-135mm rear hub spacing (most now are 142mm)
not as many mount points as some new gravel bikes
lesser tire clearance than some gravel bikes
bar end shifters (everything now is brifters0
I'd have a hard time choosing it over something like a Jamis Renegade.
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Why is this thread that is 100% about the specifications of bicycles sold by one company in the commuter list? There is 0% commuting content.
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I like barcons too, speaking of useful framesets, i like to build on old touring-cross bikes.
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But the CC is/was a popular commuting bike, and sometimes we like to talk about hardware and where bikes are going. Don't like it? Move on to the next thread where you can harp about something else.
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Your confusion is understandable, since it's not a German-made 3-speed.
But the CC is/was a popular commuting bike, and sometimes we like to talk about hardware and where bikes are going. Don't like it? Move on to the next thread where you can harp about something else.
But the CC is/was a popular commuting bike, and sometimes we like to talk about hardware and where bikes are going. Don't like it? Move on to the next thread where you can harp about something else.
Based on the logic of your snarky reply I assume threads about the detailed specifications of any and all bikes, with 0% commuting content are "commuter" topics, as long as "we" might use them for commuting.
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rim brakes (everything now is disc)
quick release axles (most bikes now are thruaxle)
steel fork (most now are carbon)
130-135mm rear hub spacing (most now are 142mm)
not as many mount points as some new gravel bikes
lesser tire clearance than some gravel bikes
bar end shifters (everything now is brifters0
I'd have a hard time choosing it over something like a Jamis Renegade.
quick release axles (most bikes now are thruaxle)
steel fork (most now are carbon)
130-135mm rear hub spacing (most now are 142mm)
not as many mount points as some new gravel bikes
lesser tire clearance than some gravel bikes
bar end shifters (everything now is brifters0
I'd have a hard time choosing it over something like a Jamis Renegade.
Actually, before I took my hiatus on here (and from bikes) in 2015 I don't think I'd ever heard the term gravel bike - at least not nearly as frequently as I do now. Is that the "hot new style"? Just seems like a MTB with drop bars to me, but I'm often wrong about these things.
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Lots of bikes are used for commuting, probably a good number of them were sold by Walmart. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Walmart bikes are used for commuting by far more bicyclists than Surlys,
Based on the logic of your snarky reply I assume threads about the detailed specifications of any and all bikes, with 0% commuting content are "commuter" topics, as long as "we" might use them for commuting.
Based on the logic of your snarky reply I assume threads about the detailed specifications of any and all bikes, with 0% commuting content are "commuter" topics, as long as "we" might use them for commuting.
I have built 3 bikes having 0 prior technical knowledge purely on information gleaned here. That said, we should try our best to be positive, encouraging and professional here....