Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
08-21-20, 06:03 AM
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My just finished Columbus Max framed Nikor, with 10 speed Campagnolo, and some shiny silver hubs laced to modern wider H+Son Archetype rims and Veloflex Corsa Evo 28c tyres.
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08-21-20, 06:25 AM
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08-21-20, 06:49 AM
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08-21-20, 06:59 AM
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That is true, quite often. I also have the next step down Ultegra 6700 wheelset that is the same exact design/shape/depth, but all aluminum instead of the Dura-Ace's aluminum substrate and carbon overlay. The Ultegras are 180g more for the set (still a scant 1600+ grams), but with the same Corsa tires, it's all-aluminum characteristics are felt. Gives the ride an edge, and not an edge I'm looking for. The Dura-Ace 7850s (tubeless compatible) on here offer a sweet balance between eagerness/springiness and road damping. A good vintage (box section) rim will do similarly, just weigh a little more. I had Matrix ISO CII's (420g a rim) and older Vittoria Open Corsa tires and that was a great combination on this bike. Still, no deep section will touch this bike (again). The frame is very large and thus 'airy' looking, and the shallow-section, low-spoke wheels here also are 'airy' looking. These wheels never rub the pads, so they're plenty 'stiff' in that regard. I'm going for smooth and fast.
As pictured, it's a quite-light 20.35 lb, not that low weight was the goal. I'd need Dura-Ace Di2 or 7900 mechanical to take the weight below 20 lb (as I've done with my '87 Prologue).
As pictured, it's a quite-light 20.35 lb, not that low weight was the goal. I'd need Dura-Ace Di2 or 7900 mechanical to take the weight below 20 lb (as I've done with my '87 Prologue).
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08-21-20, 07:59 AM
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I really enjoy riding it. That's pretty much why I decided to upgrade it, rather than buy something new.
It has the team stickers, but I don't think it ever was. I got the bike from my dad who ordered it new from some company in Minnesota. He told me that he ordered the second best bike in the Gitane line up and that it had 531P tubing. Unfortunately, all of the Reynolds stickers have been removed, but it has the number hanger so it's easy to narrow down the possibilities. The groupset that I removed was a six speed Campagnolo set complete with hubs and a seatpost. Probably Chorus? It has Campagnolo dropouts and Cinelli bars. It also came with a Brooks saddle that didn't quite agree with me.
It has the team stickers, but I don't think it ever was. I got the bike from my dad who ordered it new from some company in Minnesota. He told me that he ordered the second best bike in the Gitane line up and that it had 531P tubing. Unfortunately, all of the Reynolds stickers have been removed, but it has the number hanger so it's easy to narrow down the possibilities. The groupset that I removed was a six speed Campagnolo set complete with hubs and a seatpost. Probably Chorus? It has Campagnolo dropouts and Cinelli bars. It also came with a Brooks saddle that didn't quite agree with me.
08-21-20, 11:30 AM
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@gil_00000 and @R3tired, I had flat-ish bars on my 1971 Raleigh Super Course until recently. I call these all-rounder bars. They are like flat bars but they have a slight sweep back. In one of the pictures, you can see I added extensions onto the ends.
The bike now has drop bars, and I'm not sure if I'll keep them.
The bike now has drop bars, and I'm not sure if I'll keep them.
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08-21-20, 07:57 PM
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I do appreciate the intent. But, EL-OS?
09-15-20, 02:23 AM
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Another rebuild for the 80s 501SL Cicli Zini. Centaur 10s, Ambrosio Excellence on Miche RC2, Cinelli 66-44 and XA stem, SR fluted seat post, Fizik Arione, Shimano 600 sealed headset.
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09-15-20, 02:04 PM
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This bike has been evolving recently. I had it built with indexed downtube shifters, but I wasn't really happy with it. After much hand-wringing I finally gave in and replaced the white Serotta pantographed stem with one that lets me use my preferred handlebars (Soma HWY One) at the height and reach that's comfortable for me. While I was doing that, I decided to switch over to second generation Campy Ergo shifters and a 10-speed cassette. I also stepped up to 700x25 tires (the absolute widest that will fit). I rode it that way last weekend (before the apocalypse) and it was pretty good, but after 30 miles the saddle was feeling uncomfortable. Last night, a replacement saddle from eBay arrived. Switching from the titanium-railed Kevlar Selle Italia Flite to a hollow titanium-railed Specialized Toupe saved a whopping 55 grams. Now I'll really be able to climb on this bike! 
I can't wait until the air outside is safe to breath so I can get out and ride it. Until then, an inside of the garage door pic will have to suffice.
I can't wait until the air outside is safe to breath so I can get out and ride it. Until then, an inside of the garage door pic will have to suffice.
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09-15-20, 03:38 PM
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@Andy_K what a lot of fun that must be. Is it a climbing bike? 
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09-15-20, 04:11 PM
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09-16-20, 11:31 PM
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I remember riding that thing that last time you came up to Port Angeles. I don't remember the configuration; just raising the seat post an inch and a half and zipping around town for a hour, you and me and Random Tandem. I'd say the bike was a decent climber back then, and it looks even more so now 
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09-17-20, 01:44 AM
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I remember riding that thing that last time you came up to Port Angeles. I don't remember the configuration; just raising the seat post an inch and a half and zipping around town for a hour, you and me and Random Tandem. I'd say the bike was a decent climber back then, and it looks even more so now
It had 8-speed Syncro 2 shifters and C-Record brake levers then -- the same brakes (Potenza) and derailleurs (Racing T) it has now though.
Probably the biggest upgrade since you rode it is that the handlebars don't slip when you pull on them anymore.
I never was able to fix that with the old stem. It turned out I had a set of 26.2368 Cinelli handlebars and the stem wanted 26.4. I guess I could have shimmed it or installed a set of properly sized bars or something, but since the fit wasn't right anyway I just shelved the old stem.
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09-17-20, 04:16 AM
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familyguy, your Cicli Zini is really sharp, eye popping. I am not usually a fan of green,but that color really catches the eye. Is that something you had done or did yourself?
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09-17-20, 07:51 PM
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I would have made it if I had wider tires, I was riding 24mm fixie pops on that ride (could not resist the yellow). Ah, the before times when I could go south to ride with friends and the gas surrounding me was mostly oxygen. Here's to hoping that 2021 allows the return of the Port Angeles Century...and Canadians can come along for the ride (although I am taking the ferry this time)!
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09-18-20, 01:07 AM
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I would have made it if I had wider tires, I was riding 24mm fixie pops on that ride (could not resist the yellow). Ah, the before times when I could go south to ride with friends and the gas surrounding me was mostly oxygen. Here's to hoping that 2021 allows the return of the Port Angeles Century...and Canadians can come along for the ride (although I am taking the ferry this time)!
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But seriously, it's almost like we are in two completely different countries right now. Weird.
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09-18-20, 05:02 AM
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Hey all,
Figured this was the best place to ask for input on modernizing my mid 80's Raleigh. It's currently a single speed, but I would like to put some brifters, and make it 2xSomething? But I don't know if i can.
Pic of the bike is below. rear spacing is 120, 68mm BB, but no derailleur hanger on the rear dropout. Is it even possible with rear spacing that narrow without having to go through the trouble of expanding the frame to fit modern sized cassettes? (this was only a 10 speed originally)
If it's even possible, I need help finding nice silver/stainless components. I'm not sure something like a 105 crank would look good on such a narrow tubed vintage bike, but I'd like some quality level components. I think it's even hard to find the silver 105 crank anyway? Want the shifting to be indexed as well, obviously since i want to put brifters on.
I'm taking any and all suggestions if anyone thinks it's possible.
Thanks!
Figured this was the best place to ask for input on modernizing my mid 80's Raleigh. It's currently a single speed, but I would like to put some brifters, and make it 2xSomething? But I don't know if i can.
Pic of the bike is below. rear spacing is 120, 68mm BB, but no derailleur hanger on the rear dropout. Is it even possible with rear spacing that narrow without having to go through the trouble of expanding the frame to fit modern sized cassettes? (this was only a 10 speed originally)
If it's even possible, I need help finding nice silver/stainless components. I'm not sure something like a 105 crank would look good on such a narrow tubed vintage bike, but I'd like some quality level components. I think it's even hard to find the silver 105 crank anyway? Want the shifting to be indexed as well, obviously since i want to put brifters on.
I'm taking any and all suggestions if anyone thinks it's possible.
Thanks!
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09-20-20, 06:08 PM
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96 lemond Zurich updated to 105 5700 brifters and brakes and ultegra 6700 crank and derailleurs also added a wolftooth road link and a brooks c13 saddle