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Addiction LXXVI

Old 11-07-19, 07:46 AM
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Old 11-07-19, 08:05 AM
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Don't they make a road cleat version?!?
No. Not for real winter.
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Old 11-07-19, 08:19 AM
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In other news, to effect quick passes of other cyclists out this morning, I did dial it up to 400w to pass several times. It doesn't actually feel like much of anything for that duration. Not sure what that guy was on about.
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One earned it more than the other. After a long time in Addiction, Soloist wasn't a mean dude.
I agree, he was just a quirky young guy, but he wouldn’t stop pressing the politics button and Tom finally got tired of it. You have no idea how many PMs I sent him over politics.
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But all in all, they had it coming. You would have a very hard time finding someone who was unjustly banned. It’s pretty difficult to get banned here, you have to really put some effort into it. A lot of bridge burning happens behind the scenes, so only the involved parties really know the full story. But that’s the way it should be . . . not the bridge burning, but the privacy.
I assumed as much. This is more along the lines of "I'm vaguely curious and also being nosy but I'm not losing sleep over this, rather, I'm trying to kill time while I procrastinate researching the impacts of Apprendi on the Kansas Sentencing Guidelines Act, much in the same way people can't look away from a crime scene or a car crash".

Tl;dr: I'm nosy.
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Old 11-07-19, 09:27 AM
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So my winter/cold-weather cycling dilemma is whether to seek out the elusive gloves that will keep my fingers warm in sub-freeing temps (typically in the teens or 20's) or just accept that my mittens work well enough and leave it there. The mittens work great to keep fingers warm, but I don't feel as confident with braking/shifting etc. compared to gloves.

The top rated cold weather cycling gloves are all pricey ($100-ish and up) so I really don't want to spend that type of coin unless it really works.

Should I post in the "Cold Weather Cycling" forum??
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
So my winter/cold-weather cycling dilemma is whether to seek out the elusive gloves that will keep my fingers warm in sub-freeing temps (typically in the teens or 20's) or just accept that my mittens work well enough and leave it there. The mittens work great to keep fingers warm, but I don't feel as confident with braking/shifting etc. compared to gloves.

The top rated cold weather cycling gloves are all pricey ($100-ish and up) so I really don't want to spend that type of coin unless it really works.

Should I post in the "Cold Weather Cycling" forum??
I have exactly the same dilemma, but I don't think the $100 solution is going to help much. I think I've gone up to about 80 and I'm still miserable when it's much below freezing. What I have found helpful is just to make sure the core temp stays up. That's where a lot of the signaling for vasoconstriction in the extremities is coming from anyway. I also think lack of thermal mass may be why people like us have particular problems.

This is going to be my lightest winter since I ran XC in college and I'm not looking forward to it.
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Old 11-07-19, 09:42 AM
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I have exactly the same dilemma, but I don't think the $100 solution is going to help much. I think I've gone up to about 80 and I'm still miserable when it's much below freezing. What I have found helpful is just to make sure the core temp stays up. That's where a lot of the signaling for vasoconstriction in the extremities is coming from anyway. I also think lack of thermal mass may be why people like us have particular problems.

This is going to be my lightest winter since I ran XC in college and I'm not looking forward to it.
Everyone is different in terms of cold tolerance, too. For example, my feet are not nearly as much of a concern. I use regular shoes down to about freezing, no problem, while my friends are using booties. I use toe covers around freezing and only neoprene booties when in the 20's or lower. No problemo.

But my fingers seem to be more sensitive. Probably best to use mittens and give up the dream of a warm glove. My mittens plus hand warmers are toasty down to as low as 10F (which is as cold as it ever gets around here), and on "typical" winter days of mid 20's I don't even need the hand warmers, just mittens and glove liners.
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I agree, he was just a quirky young guy, but he wouldn’t stop pressing the politics button and Tom finally got tired of it. You have no idea how many PMs I sent him over politics.
Young and dumb.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
So my winter/cold-weather cycling dilemma is whether to seek out the elusive gloves that will keep my fingers warm in sub-freeing temps (typically in the teens or 20's) or just accept that my mittens work well enough and leave it there. The mittens work great to keep fingers warm, but I don't feel as confident with braking/shifting etc. compared to gloves.

The top rated cold weather cycling gloves are all pricey ($100-ish and up) so I really don't want to spend that type of coin unless it really works.

Should I post in the "Cold Weather Cycling" forum??
I've thought about getting some "Lobster" gloves as a medium solution. They break the mitten up so that instead of all four fingers together, its two and two + the thumb. I'm guessing warmer but still klutzy compared to regular gloves.
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Old 11-07-19, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ksryder View Post
This is more along the lines of "I'm vaguely curious and also being nosy but I'm not losing sleep over this, rather, I'm trying to kill time while I procrastinate researching the impacts of Apprendi on the Kansas Sentencing Guidelines Act,
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Pretty icy out there this morning. Would've killed myself on 23s.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
So my winter/cold-weather cycling dilemma is whether to seek out the elusive gloves that will keep my fingers warm in sub-freeing temps (typically in the teens or 20's) or just accept that my mittens work well enough and leave it there. The mittens work great to keep fingers warm, but I don't feel as confident with braking/shifting etc. compared to gloves.

The top rated cold weather cycling gloves are all pricey ($100-ish and up) so I really don't want to spend that type of coin unless it really works.

Should I post in the "Cold Weather Cycling" forum??
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I've thought about getting some "Lobster" gloves as a medium solution. They break the mitten up so that instead of all four fingers together, its two and two + the thumb. I'm guessing warmer but still klutzy compared to regular gloves.
Back when I still rode outdoors in the winter I managed to get a pretty good setup that was sufficient into the high-teens/low twenties. Lobster gloves served me well into the 20s (with Kansas windchill) and I wasn't greatly hampered with shifting/braking etc--but I won't pretend they were as nimble as no gloves.

Mine are Pearl Izumi and I don't know how much they cost because they were a Christmas present from my wife. But I have no complaints.

I have some bar mitts too which are fantastic, you can ride in the teens with just a thin glove on your hands. But they limit you to the hoods, if you're on a drop bar bike. And they're a minor hassle to take on and off. And when it gets that cold there are other limitations and drawbacks and I just generally don't ride that much.
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Originally Posted by ksryder View Post
Back when I still rode outdoors in the winter I managed to get a pretty good setup that was sufficient into the high-teens/low twenties. Lobster gloves served me well into the 20s (with Kansas windchill) and I wasn't greatly hampered with shifting/braking etc--but I won't pretend they were as nimble as no gloves.

Mine are Pearl Izumi and I don't know how much they cost because they were a Christmas present from my wife. But I have no complaints.

I have some bar mitts too which are fantastic, you can ride in the teens with just a thin glove on your hands. But they limit you to the hoods, if you're on a drop bar bike. And they're a minor hassle to take on and off. And when it gets that cold there are other limitations and drawbacks and I just generally don't ride that much.
All this goes for me too, if you increase the temp limits by ~10º. Lobster gloves are essential, but they still leave the thumbs isolated and that's what goes numb on me first. I have pairs of PIs and Bontragers, both good with the afore-stated reservation. Bar mitts are great too and I use them from the mid 20s downward, but they're awkward and usually restrict the riding position to the hoods.
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hey ksryder - how long have you been a lawyer? Bring Vol back and the lawyers outnumber the doctors.
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Channeling Trainsnorter. While attempting to cut a tight, rather heavy ziptie, with scissors, I instead cut the meaty part of my thumb. A half hour of elevation later, i stood up and it resumed its bleeding like a stuck pig. Likely no riding for me today. More likely reading.
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Channeling Trainsnorter. While attempting to cut a tight, rather heavy ziptie, with scissors, I instead cut the meaty part of my thumb. A half hour of elevation later, i stood up and it resumed its bleeding like a stuck pig. Likely no riding for me today. More likely reading.
Hmm. I can't just reply; it has to be a quote. Why is that?
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The last time I bled this profusely, it was a machete cut to the shin. I was literally miles from nowhere in the Belizean rainforest. Nothing to do but sit tight.
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Channeling Trainsnorter. While attempting to cut a tight, rather heavy ziptie, with scissors, I instead cut the meaty part of my thumb. A half hour of elevation later, i stood up and it resumed its bleeding like a stuck pig. Likely no riding for me today. More likely reading.
¡Ai ai ai! Hope it stops eventually.
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hey ksryder - how long have you been a lawyer? Bring Vol back and the lawyers outnumber the doctors.
I is a lawyer.
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I know.
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hey ksryder - how long have you been a lawyer? Bring Vol back and the lawyers outnumber the doctors.
7 years but I work for the government (judicial branch, not executive) so I merely ride a 10-year-old Specialized with rim brakes, instead of a custom Moots like my friend who was formerly general counsel for a regional public utility.
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7 years but I work for the government (judicial branch, not executive) so I merely ride a 10-year-old Specialized with rim brakes, instead of a custom Moots like my friend who was formerly general counsel for a regional public utility.
Federal? Me too.
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Federal? Me too.
State. I had a temporary clerkship at the Fed and it was super nice. Hard to get a permanent position though.

I like what I'm doing for now, it's intellectually interesting, but at some point I'm going to have to go be a real lawyer or get pigeonholed as a lifelong clerk.
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Isn't an attorney in the judicial branch a judge? Or judge's clerk?

And there's my answer.
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