E-bikes & disaster plans
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E-bikes & disaster plans
I just realized my OneMotor battery with the usb port will charge my iphone multiple times in a power outage/earthquake/disaster scenario. That got me thinking about how e-bikes can be used it natural disasters. My bug-out kit includes my bikepacking gear, some food/water/first aid stuff, on my Burley Travoy. Since my bike can be easily ridden without the motor, even if i can't recharge it later on, it's still an option. But now I am thinking about a solar charger -- something to have for emergencies.
Anyone use their e-bikes in these kind of situations or think about it and plan? I saw folks in the floods back East getting around by bike (maybe not so good using a battery in water). Just wondering if anyone else has figured stuff out.
Anyone use their e-bikes in these kind of situations or think about it and plan? I saw folks in the floods back East getting around by bike (maybe not so good using a battery in water). Just wondering if anyone else has figured stuff out.
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Good idea. When I've thought about it, a MTB seems more feasible. However a system like yours, that is lightweight and can be jettisoned if it becomes inoperable, makes sense.
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Hadn't thought about my bike for a power backup because I have a generator that we use for power outages, and my electric car can be fitted with an external inverter to power household items for well over a week. The car can also recharge my ebike. I do have two portable solar panels that I used to trickle charge the deep cycle batteries in my horse trailer (that supplied internal living quarters power) - I can always use that system for recharging my ebike (solar to deep cycle to ebike).
I'm too far into the rural areas to use the ebike for transportation. It's just a recreational toy.
I'm too far into the rural areas to use the ebike for transportation. It's just a recreational toy.
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I think it depends a lot on your local terrain. When I lived in Philly and max elevation heading west was 1000ft; my single-speed steel bike was fine.
Make sure you have a chain tool with you in any case. You can always convert any multi-speed bike to a single-speed bike if you have chain issues and have to take some links out.
But this is all theoretical.
Make sure you have a chain tool with you in any case. You can always convert any multi-speed bike to a single-speed bike if you have chain issues and have to take some links out.
But this is all theoretical.
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There are times that the power goes out. When it does I just roll the bike to a convenient location in the house and turn the headlight on.
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I just realized my OneMotor battery with the usb port will charge my iphone multiple times in a power outage/earthquake/disaster scenario. That got me thinking about how e-bikes can be used it natural disasters. My bug-out kit includes my bikepacking gear, some food/water/first aid stuff, on my Burley Travoy. Since my bike can be easily ridden without the motor, even if i can't recharge it later on, it's still an option. But now I am thinking about a solar charger -- something to have for emergencies.
Anyone use their e-bikes in these kind of situations or think about it and plan? I saw folks in the floods back East getting around by bike (maybe not so good using a battery in water). Just wondering if anyone else has figured stuff out.
If it's not that bad, then you don't need a bugout kit.
If you're serious about this, you want to do real planning. A little shack that's hard to get to, stocked with supplies.
The problem is, there is a fairly narrow distance between ordinary disasters, and the types that will cripple civilisation for a while. Odds are you won't survive a nuclear winter from a meteor strike. A massive tsunami could cripple food production and transportation on the West coast. Anywhere within a thousand miles of Jellystone National park is toast if the Yellowstone caldera blows. I'm in Maine, but that would cripple food coming from the West and South of the border. Eventually there should be shipping, but that could take months, and there is the question of getting oil to move it around once the food gets here. There is a small possibility that a big hunk of Antarctica could slide into the ocean. That would create mile high waves, and I doubt I could get far enough away to be safe.
Just as a public service, and because I have a morbid turn, a Space rock hitting the Yellowstone caldera, the wrong place in Anarctica, and a couple other places could easily make our species extinct.
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A disaster nasty enough to require a bugout kit likely took out cell service.
If it's not that bad, then you don't need a bugout kit.
If you're serious about this, you want to do real planning. A little shack that's hard to get to, stocked with supplies.
The problem is, there is a fairly narrow distance between ordinary disasters, and the types that will cripple civilisation for a while. Odds are you won't survive a nuclear winter from a meteor strike. A massive tsunami could cripple food production and transportation on the West coast. Anywhere within a thousand miles of Jellystone National park is toast if the Yellowstone caldera blows. I'm in Maine, but that would cripple food coming from the West and South of the border. Eventually there should be shipping, but that could take months, and there is the question of getting oil to move it around once the food gets here. There is a small possibility that a big hunk of Antarctica could slide into the ocean. That would create mile high waves, and I doubt I could get far enough away to be safe.
Just as a public service, and because I have a morbid turn, a Space rock hitting the Yellowstone caldera, the wrong place in Anarctica, and a couple other places could easily make our species extinct.
If it's not that bad, then you don't need a bugout kit.
If you're serious about this, you want to do real planning. A little shack that's hard to get to, stocked with supplies.
The problem is, there is a fairly narrow distance between ordinary disasters, and the types that will cripple civilisation for a while. Odds are you won't survive a nuclear winter from a meteor strike. A massive tsunami could cripple food production and transportation on the West coast. Anywhere within a thousand miles of Jellystone National park is toast if the Yellowstone caldera blows. I'm in Maine, but that would cripple food coming from the West and South of the border. Eventually there should be shipping, but that could take months, and there is the question of getting oil to move it around once the food gets here. There is a small possibility that a big hunk of Antarctica could slide into the ocean. That would create mile high waves, and I doubt I could get far enough away to be safe.
Just as a public service, and because I have a morbid turn, a Space rock hitting the Yellowstone caldera, the wrong place in Anarctica, and a couple other places could easily make our species extinct.
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A horse is a better alternative than a bike if you had a truly apocalyptic event. A horse can carry more and traverse terrain that a bike can't, plus it refuels on native vegetation. That being said, since the vast majority of people have access to a bike, I would think a carbon belt drive mountain bike with panniers would be the best option. Having a set-up for rainwater capture is critical, along with a stockpile of chlorine and a means of keeping the water in darkness. Two portable solar panels would be enough to recharge an ebike battery, or recharge a deep cycle battery that may be used to run a tv set. Aerial tv is a must. Who knows if the internet would be available, or even cell coverage.
We're pretty much sitting ducks for any long term disaster due to the complicated supply chain that exists, but if the dericho from a couple of years back taught us (at least us personally and our neighbors) anything, it was that "simple is better" and "always plan/stockpile for an extended disaster". A camp stove, a supply of nonperishable foods, usable on-site water, a sheltered place - this will get you through the worst, even for weeks.
We're pretty much sitting ducks for any long term disaster due to the complicated supply chain that exists, but if the dericho from a couple of years back taught us (at least us personally and our neighbors) anything, it was that "simple is better" and "always plan/stockpile for an extended disaster". A camp stove, a supply of nonperishable foods, usable on-site water, a sheltered place - this will get you through the worst, even for weeks.
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I think the reality is that you want a "bug in" kit, for staying at home. 8mi walk to your family is just a walk, no need for any special supplies. Unless you are going across some of the wacky Bay Area Geography. But you can still just walk.
Primarily you want to just follow whatever PG&E suggest for preparedness since they are in charge of delivering electricity and gas to your area.
Primarily you want to just follow whatever PG&E suggest for preparedness since they are in charge of delivering electricity and gas to your area.