Chain replacement at 1800 miles?
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Chain replacement at 1800 miles?
I had my chain replaced yesterday at my LBS at 1800 miles. That does not seem like very much, but I don't really have anything to go on. Is that normal? Is there a way to make the chain last longer? I do lube it with Rock N Roll Gold, but it appears I was not wiping the oil off well enough. The mechanic had to scrape quite a bit of sticky dirt off the bottom of the chain that hangs beneath the rear derailleur.
I did do the right thing by replacing the chain when I did. I was uniformed about the need of changing the chain and wore about the entire crank system last time. I don't plan on making that mistake again.
I did do the right thing by replacing the chain when I did. I was uniformed about the need of changing the chain and wore about the entire crank system last time. I don't plan on making that mistake again.
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That seems premature to me unless it was a mountain bike that was ridden hard in bad conditions. Even then, 1800 miles seems decidedly low. I use a synthetic lube called Purple Extreme. It is lightweight, doesn't dry sticky and a little goes a long way. Bike chains don't need a heavy coat, so go easy with the lube. Let's see what some of the more seasoned mechanics have to say.
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You need a Chain Checker
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Did you measure the chain? You can get a chain checker as DiabloScott recommends or do it with a good ruler. Here's one of the best for describing measuring a chain for wear.
Chain Maintenance
How often do you lube your chain? I'd recommend about every 200 miles. Do you clean your chain using detergents or solvents? I think that some people do more harm than good by removing all the lube when cleaning the chain and not properly replacing it.
Chain Maintenance
How often do you lube your chain? I'd recommend about every 200 miles. Do you clean your chain using detergents or solvents? I think that some people do more harm than good by removing all the lube when cleaning the chain and not properly replacing it.
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1000 - 10,000 miles is a reasonable range. I've gotten to 1/32" of elongation in 5000 miles running Campagnolo C8/C9/C10 chains in dry environments, and reached 3/16" in under 2000 miles with an off-brand chain I bought in Seattle.
I don't bother with cleaning chains beyond wiping off the outside, and add White Lightning every time they cease to run silently. That might be 150 miles in dry conditions once the factory lube wears off (> 1000 miles), or after 50 miles in a little rain.
I did do the right thing by replacing the chain when I did.
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I had my chain replaced yesterday at my LBS at 1800 miles. That does not seem like very much, but I don't really have anything to go on. Is that normal? Is there a way to make the chain last longer? I do lube it with Rock N Roll Gold, but it appears I was not wiping the oil off well enough. The mechanic had to scrape quite a bit of sticky dirt off the bottom of the chain that hangs beneath the rear derailleur.
I did do the right thing by replacing the chain when I did. I was uniformed about the need of changing the chain and wore about the entire crank system last time. I don't plan on making that mistake again.
I did do the right thing by replacing the chain when I did. I was uniformed about the need of changing the chain and wore about the entire crank system last time. I don't plan on making that mistake again.
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Did you measure the chain? You can get a chain checker as DiabloScott recommends or do it with a good ruler. Here's one of the best for describing measuring a chain for wear.
Chain Maintenance
How often do you lube your chain? I'd recommend about every 200 miles. Do you clean your chain using detergents or solvents? I think that some people do more harm than good by removing all the lube when cleaning the chain and not properly replacing it.
Chain Maintenance
How often do you lube your chain? I'd recommend about every 200 miles. Do you clean your chain using detergents or solvents? I think that some people do more harm than good by removing all the lube when cleaning the chain and not properly replacing it.
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Sounds like the chain was not kept clean, so, 1800 miles is not surprising. on a road bike Some chains last longer than others. Some riders put more stress on chains than others. I get 3-5,000 miles on the chains that I use.
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There's no rule or even a workable average for chain life. It varies anywhere form a bit over 1,000 to over 10,000 miles, though I believe most people should get closer to 3,000 than much less.
The variables include rider weight, terrain, weather conditions, rider average speed, and maintenance/chain lube habits.
A strong, heavy rider in hilly areas like Connecticut or Pennsylvania won't get the same chain life as a light person riding on flat terrain. Faster riders will see chainlife decreasing with higher average speeds, and wet weather, especially in dirty conditions will be murder even when all else is good.
What you can do other than riding slower, losing weight or moving to Kansas, is to use a decent chain oil, and keeping the chain reasonably clean.
As for how to know when to replace, measuring with a 12" ruler is probably the most accurate way, and some of the gadgets among the least.
The variables include rider weight, terrain, weather conditions, rider average speed, and maintenance/chain lube habits.
A strong, heavy rider in hilly areas like Connecticut or Pennsylvania won't get the same chain life as a light person riding on flat terrain. Faster riders will see chainlife decreasing with higher average speeds, and wet weather, especially in dirty conditions will be murder even when all else is good.
What you can do other than riding slower, losing weight or moving to Kansas, is to use a decent chain oil, and keeping the chain reasonably clean.
As for how to know when to replace, measuring with a 12" ruler is probably the most accurate way, and some of the gadgets among the least.
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I have yet to find any hardware store give-away wooden yardstick that isn't plenty accurate for measuring chain wear. So I have to wonder on the constant insistence to use a 'good quality' steel rule.
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There's no rule or even a workable average for chain life. It varies anywhere form a bit over 1,000 to over 10,000 miles, though I believe most people should get closer to 3,000 than much less.
The variables include rider weight, terrain, weather conditions, rider average speed, and maintenance/chain lube habits.
A strong, heavy rider in hilly areas like Connecticut or Pennsylvania won't get the same chain life as a light person riding on flat terrain. Faster riders will see chainlife decreasing with higher average speeds, and wet weather, especially in dirty conditions will be murder even when all else is good.
What you can do other than riding slower, losing weight or moving to Kansas, is to use a decent chain oil, and keeping the chain reasonably clean.
As for how to know when to replace, measuring with a 12" ruler is probably the most accurate way, and some of the gadgets among the least.
The variables include rider weight, terrain, weather conditions, rider average speed, and maintenance/chain lube habits.
A strong, heavy rider in hilly areas like Connecticut or Pennsylvania won't get the same chain life as a light person riding on flat terrain. Faster riders will see chainlife decreasing with higher average speeds, and wet weather, especially in dirty conditions will be murder even when all else is good.
What you can do other than riding slower, losing weight or moving to Kansas, is to use a decent chain oil, and keeping the chain reasonably clean.
As for how to know when to replace, measuring with a 12" ruler is probably the most accurate way, and some of the gadgets among the least.
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I'm with you. We're eyeballing a 1/16" mark, while holding the zero mark against the chain. As long as there's a good zero mark, just about anything is good enough. In fact, in a pinch, I've used a sheet of paper which is a very accurate 11" and eyeballed the overhang.
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Shills for the "good quality" steel ruler industry lurk among us.
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I ride pretty hard, often climbing, and in occasionally wet conditions. I never clean the chain other than an external wipe down but do lube it at least one a week. I just had to change it at 1500 miles. I did purchase a chain cleaner and will see how this one lasts with an occasional cleaning.
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But you have to wipe off the excess, after oiling and after the first ride (you're only putting a single drop on each roller, I hope). With Chain-L you should probably wipe off the chain after the first few rides.
Steer clear of dry lubes; they're only optimal for really dusty or sandy conditions, don't last, and leave extremely stubborn grime everywhere.
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I go through chains at a rapid clip, 1,800 mile wear out has happened for me.
The best way I have found to view chains is to think of them as consumables, like tires and bar tape.
Replacing the chain, a consumable, saves the durable and expensive cassette/chain rings.
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Buy yourself a Park Tool chain checker, and check the wear yourself. While your at it get a chain tool so you can replace the chain yourself.
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Two things that affect chain wear are what the roadway is made from i.e. the aggregate. As in perhaps some quartz. Also how often they are swept.
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