Campagnolo electronic 11
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Campagnolo electronic 11
Here we go, if it cost more than SR11 then i cant even imagine how much could be.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/camp...ic-gear-system
https://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/camp...ic-gear-system
https://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/
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Campagnolo played the cards wrong, they stopped the development of this product and now shimano took the bite big time. Campy was like 3 or 4 years ahead and lost the race at the sametime Italian engineering is not bad at all but in R&D japanese kick ass big time, who knows what will happen, if campagnolo does not feed the medium tear of products with electronic versions, shimano will do and then even I will move to electronic if the price is right
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Campagnolo has been developing and refining their electric shifting system since 2006. Prototypes were being ridden in early 2009.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VotC6Ow9gxo
Little late to the punch here, dontchyathink guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VotC6Ow9gxo
Little late to the punch here, dontchyathink guys?
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Anyone what to guess how much it will cost? I bet it will be more than DI2! I do expect that it will do something that Shimano doesn't. At least it better have some new capabilities or it will just look like they were slow to market.
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"However, instead of buttons to change gear, there are curved gear levers on the inside of brake hoods."
So probably multiple up/down shifts. It'll be interesting to see if they offer sequential shifting.
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Finally cycling breaks out of the dark ages. Sure took long enough to get some tech in here.
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Wow. It looks pretty bulky and kind of crude. Probably appropriate to a prototype, but the production version needs to fix that. (And, knowing Campy, it will.)
But . . . they're retaining levers? Note to Campy: It's the buttons that make electronic shifting so much better!
But . . . they're retaining levers? Note to Campy: It's the buttons that make electronic shifting so much better!
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They are late to market because they wanted to see how Di2 would do. Di2 was also release when the economy was down so it was a very risky business move. Shimano is plenty big and if Di2 tanked, then they could go on with it. Not so sure Campy would have been able to take the hit.
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My bet is, in the next couple of years, Di2 gets rebadged as Ultegra, and becomes available at a semi affordable price. And a new Dura Ace electric group comes out with some tweaks to stay ahead of Campy, such as sequential shifting as an option and possibly wireless.
Before Campy put out a viable electric group, there wasn't much pressure on Shimano; Now they'll need to keep improving to maintain the 2 year advantage they have.
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They are late to market because they wanted to see how Di2 would do. Di2 was also release when the economy was down so it was a very risky business move. Shimano is plenty big and if Di2 tanked, then they could go on with it. Not so sure Campy would have been able to take the hit.
The advent of indexed shifting nearly killed Campy. When Campy struggled for 5 years to market a viable indexed shifting group, they lost the better part of a generation of riders to Shimano (myself included).
They need to learn from that historyy, and not get caught short on electric shifting.
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I want electronic campy less than I want Di2.
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Does seem to fit Shimano better in someway.
Japanese > electronic.
Italian > mechanical.
Japanese > electronic.
Italian > mechanical.
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merlinestraligh, what do you mean by "sequential shifting"? Di2 already has sequential shifting, as I would define it.
I suppose -- using levers like Campy's does -- you could put contacts along the sweep of the lever enabling multi-shifts. That's cool, but you don't need electronics to do that.
I am sure that imaginative people will come up with improvements. Current Di2 -- and far moreso, Campy's system -- caters to the controls habits of cable-actuated users. The next generation needs to provide a more elegant solution made possible by the electronics. If you're going wireless, why not a glove or hand-mounted control system? That way, you could shift with your hands anywhere.
I suppose -- using levers like Campy's does -- you could put contacts along the sweep of the lever enabling multi-shifts. That's cool, but you don't need electronics to do that.
I am sure that imaginative people will come up with improvements. Current Di2 -- and far moreso, Campy's system -- caters to the controls habits of cable-actuated users. The next generation needs to provide a more elegant solution made possible by the electronics. If you're going wireless, why not a glove or hand-mounted control system? That way, you could shift with your hands anywhere.
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"Shimano were the first to produce an electronic system but we kept working hard on our system and now the bike unveiled is very similar to the bike that will be used by the new Movistar team," Valentino Campagnolo told Cyclingnews. So much for Mavic and Browning I suppose.
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I never heard of Browning, so some searching pulled up this: https://www2.bsn.com/cycling/articles/browning.html