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Old 07-21-20, 07:45 PM
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What did I just buy?

Just bought a set of brand new looking "Zerolite Comp by Vuelta" wheels. Didn't really look hard at them as I was in a hurry. First thing - no skewers. 2nd thing - no cassette or freewheel - and - here is where I am puzzled - both sides of the rear hub are threaded, and one side is threaded in two different diameters (like "terraced"). What is going on here and what do I need to do for a cassette?

Nice rims and spokes

One side of the rear hub - threaded

Other side of the rear hub with the two-level threading
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Old 07-21-20, 07:54 PM
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Flip flop hubs.Single speed on one side, fixie on the other?
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Those are singlespeed/track rims I think.
you will find the rear is too narrow for a geared bikes dropouts.

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Could it be you have a dual purpose wheel? A flip flop on one side and a single speed freewheel on the other?

I just posted the same basic issue. Can't seem to copy and paste but my thread was "Confusing Tubular Wheel".
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Old 07-21-20, 08:45 PM
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Just an observation on economics. William Simon (Nobel Prize in Economics) proposed two different buyer types. The first is the "Satisficer". That type of person, if they needed a sweater, would go to the store and buy the first sweater that met needs (my size, dark color, less that 200 dollars). An "Optimizer" on the other hand, would spend weeks researching sweaters to find the finest fabric, the best wool, the precise color, the brand that fit his/her body type, etc etc.

OP, you apparently are a satisficer. (You guys tend to be happier than us optimizer). Anyway, I think that this is a flip-flop hub. The stepped thread on one size accepts a lockring. The other side is threaded for a freewheel.
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Originally Posted by dougdunn
Just bought a set of brand new looking "Zerolite Comp by Vuelta" wheels. Didn't really look hard at them as I was in a hurry. First thing - no skewers. 2nd thing - no cassette or freewheel - and - here is where I am puzzled - both sides of the rear hub are threaded, and one side is threaded in two different diameters (like "terraced"). What is going on here and what do I need to do for a cassette?

Nice rims and spokes

One side of the rear hub - threaded

Other side of the rear hub with the two-level threading
flip-flop track/single-speed/fixie hubs - the “step” is for a left hand threaded lock ring to hold the fixed sprocket on. The other side is for a single- or multi-speed freewheel (this won’t take any cassette). It has QR-compatible hollow axles, but they look too long to use QR skewers - think these are sized for track nuts.
Man, how much of a hurry were you in......?😟

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Old 07-22-20, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Litespud
flip-flop track/single-speed/fixie hubs - the “step” is for a left hand threaded lock ring to hold the fixed sprocket on. The other side is for a single- or multi-speed freewheel (this won’t take any cassette). It has QR-compatible hollow axles, but they look too long to use QR skewers - think these are sized for track nuts.
Man, how much of a hurry were you in......?😟
Oh, just damned stupid I guess. New hub eh?
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Not all wheels are the same.
Not all rims are the same.
Not all hubs are the same.
Not all spokes are the same.
Not all axles are the same.
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The question is for what purpose did you buy them?
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Originally Posted by dougdunn
Oh, just damned stupid I guess. New hub eh?
probably new spokes also, as you’ll need to dish the wheel for a freehub. Unless you can build the wheel yourself, add the cost of the build. May not be economically viable. In your shoes, I’d either sell them as a good single/fixie wheel set, or find an old frame and explore the wonderful world of fixed-gear riding
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I like the dog cameo in the first photo.
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Old 07-22-20, 06:57 AM
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I like the dog cameo in the first photo.
Yes! The Overseer:

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Old 07-22-20, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WizardOfBoz
Just an observation on economics. William Simon (Nobel Prize in Economics) proposed two different buyer types. The first is the "Satisficer". That type of person, if they needed a sweater, would go to the store and buy the first sweater that met needs (my size, dark color, less that 200 dollars). An "Optimizer" on the other hand, would spend weeks researching sweaters to find the finest fabric, the best wool, the precise color, the brand that fit his/her body type, etc etc.

OP, you apparently are a satisficer. (You guys tend to be happier than us optimizer). Anyway, I think that this is a flip-flop hub. The stepped thread on one size accepts a lockring. The other side is threaded for a freewheel.
There is a third type of buyer; the impulse buyer. Buys the first thing he sees without making sure it really does meet his needs. I think the OP did just that, bought a track/fixie/single speed wheel that probably won't fit his bike's dropouts and wasn't what he needed.

A corollary to the impulse buyer is the bargain buyer. My aunt was famous in our family for her comment about something she bought at a sale; "I had absolutely no need for it but couldn't say no at the price."
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Old 07-22-20, 04:59 PM
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What is the axle spacing?
If the axle is long enough there's no reason why you can't just install a freewheel re-space the axle and dish the wheel accordingly to match.

A lot depends on what type of bike you wanted to use these on. Right now their set up as a flip flop rear, but the presence of ta hollow axle tells me its not likely a track bike wheelset but just a set of wheels someone built up or ordered to convert their current bike to single speed. Measure the overall axle length, and measure the overall lock nut to lock nut distance. Skewers are no big deal, chances are you can use either your old skewers or source a set elsewhere.
If the wheel is dished evenly left and right, and the spokes are proper length, there's no reason why it won't handle being redished for a freewheel. The difference in the average wheel side to side is on millimeter or less in spoke length. The majority of factory built wheels for years used one spoke length front and rear and they worked fine.
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Old 07-24-20, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dougdunn
Oh, just damned stupid I guess. New hub eh?
I suggest a new fixie frame to go with those flip-flop wheels!

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Unless you can actually put that wheel to use or do the work yourself to make it work, put it for sale and get what you can for it, cut your losses and move on and get what you need, with the knowledge you've gained.
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