Chicago Area C&V Ride October 19th
10-19-19, 09:33 PM
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thanks so much to John for putting this together and hosting the event! It was a great chance to meet some new folks and old friends! Got to see more than a few great bikes too!
Of course, getting to set foot in John's phenomenal bike themed man-cave was an incredible experience! So much cool stuff!
I did take a few photos, and it will require a little time to get them edited and whatnot... in the meantime, let me offer a shot of our host on his Ciocc....
Steve, back in Peoria
(btw, the weather was wonderful for the ride! I did hit a bit of rain much later as I was headed back to central Illinois)
Of course, getting to set foot in John's phenomenal bike themed man-cave was an incredible experience! So much cool stuff!
I did take a few photos, and it will require a little time to get them edited and whatnot... in the meantime, let me offer a shot of our host on his Ciocc....
Steve, back in Peoria
(btw, the weather was wonderful for the ride! I did hit a bit of rain much later as I was headed back to central Illinois)
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thanks so much to John for putting this together and hosting the event! It was a great chance to meet some new folks and old friends! Got to see more than a few great bikes too!
Of course, getting to set foot in John's phenomenal bike themed man-cave was an incredible experience! So much cool stuff!
I did take a few photos, and it will require a little time to get them edited and whatnot... in the meantime, let me offer a shot of our host on his Ciocc....
Steve, back in Peoria
(btw, the weather was wonderful for the ride! I did hit a bit of rain much later as I was headed back to central Illinois)
Of course, getting to set foot in John's phenomenal bike themed man-cave was an incredible experience! So much cool stuff!
I did take a few photos, and it will require a little time to get them edited and whatnot... in the meantime, let me offer a shot of our host on his Ciocc....
Steve, back in Peoria
(btw, the weather was wonderful for the ride! I did hit a bit of rain much later as I was headed back to central Illinois)
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10-19-19, 10:39 PM
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That is some bike cave...wow!
10-20-19, 05:56 AM
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I'm kicking myself for missing this; I had some serious commitments that I just couldn't duck. Hopefully this wasn't a one off and I can make it next year.
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What a great, fun, day at John's house! I finally got to experience being surrounded by all these dream bikes. It's quite a museum he has, and John was a great host.
The weather was perfect, and the ride was a lot of fun. Got to meet some new forum members and shared stories. A really great day!
The weather was perfect, and the ride was a lot of fun. Got to meet some new forum members and shared stories. A really great day!
10-20-19, 10:20 AM
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Thanks, check out the entire mancave. There are other videos you can check also
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10-20-19, 10:37 AM
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A fantastic day! As mentioned above- really is a treat for John to open his doors and share his amazing collection.
What's fascinating is seeing this collection presented as a time trip 'very high end' bike shop - and everything is like NEW. The line up to bikes perfectly displayed on the walls to shelves and showcases, signs and memoirabilia. And then to see his nicely setup shop surrounded with all the goodies. Super nice!
Well done, John.
Here's a few pics including John tuning Alex's wheel.
Also, thank you along with Steve W for the party favors ~ cool Miyata project 🏁
What's fascinating is seeing this collection presented as a time trip 'very high end' bike shop - and everything is like NEW. The line up to bikes perfectly displayed on the walls to shelves and showcases, signs and memoirabilia. And then to see his nicely setup shop surrounded with all the goodies. Super nice!
Well done, John.
Here's a few pics including John tuning Alex's wheel.
Also, thank you along with Steve W for the party favors ~ cool Miyata project 🏁
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10-20-19, 11:11 AM
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Oh man I just got drool all over my shirt! nice shots @crank_addict thanks for sharing
10-20-19, 01:41 PM
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Great shots! Glad you guys were here!!
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10-20-19, 02:55 PM
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time for some photos from the ride......
we took some side streets to get over to the trail that runs along the Fox river.
Dan on his Raleigh Pro Mk. III
Elwood on his RRB bike, built by Ron Boi in Chicago
Scott, a.k.a. Crank Addict, on his Peugeot:
and the Peugeot itself.....
through the side streets, with John and Elwood at the front and Scott and Steve W just ahead of me....
Scott, John, and Elwood......
of course, stuff happens. Steve W. had to stop to tighten the rear QR after the wheel slipped in the dropouts and started rubbing (he is riding his Chas Roberts)
...to be continued....
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we took some side streets to get over to the trail that runs along the Fox river.
Dan on his Raleigh Pro Mk. III
Elwood on his RRB bike, built by Ron Boi in Chicago
Scott, a.k.a. Crank Addict, on his Peugeot:
and the Peugeot itself.....
through the side streets, with John and Elwood at the front and Scott and Steve W just ahead of me....
Scott, John, and Elwood......
of course, stuff happens. Steve W. had to stop to tighten the rear QR after the wheel slipped in the dropouts and started rubbing (he is riding his Chas Roberts)
...to be continued....
Steve in Peoria
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10-20-19, 03:46 PM
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we continued to the trail that runs along the Fox river, and crossed the river on a really nice bridge. There is an upper deck that is for rail???? Maybe a local can tell me. Overall, the trail is a great resource and appears to get quite a bit of use.
the trail is paved and surrounded by wooded areas, for the most part. Possibly even more pleasant than the corn and bean fields that make up most of Illinois??
a quick shot of Scott/Crank_Addict....
we did have to work our way through a Saturday morning market in one of the communities along the river....
back on the trail, with Elwood and Dan behind me...
Alec (a.k.a. abshipp, I believe?? Please correct me if I get names & usernames wrong) was having some issues with spoke tension in his rear wheel. John was able to give it a quick touch-up on the road, and finished it up when we got back to his shop.
We were stopped for a "natural break" at a trail facility, and this was the first time I stopped to get a look at Bernie's bike. It's a bit of an enigma, but with some great details and a new paint job by Andy Muzi.
....to be continued...
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the trail is paved and surrounded by wooded areas, for the most part. Possibly even more pleasant than the corn and bean fields that make up most of Illinois??
a quick shot of Scott/Crank_Addict....
we did have to work our way through a Saturday morning market in one of the communities along the river....
back on the trail, with Elwood and Dan behind me...
Alec (a.k.a. abshipp, I believe?? Please correct me if I get names & usernames wrong) was having some issues with spoke tension in his rear wheel. John was able to give it a quick touch-up on the road, and finished it up when we got back to his shop.
We were stopped for a "natural break" at a trail facility, and this was the first time I stopped to get a look at Bernie's bike. It's a bit of an enigma, but with some great details and a new paint job by Andy Muzi.
....to be continued...
Steve in Peoria
10-20-19, 04:11 PM
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back on the trail! a quick shot of Dan and Steve W. behind me...
the sun eventually came out, which was a welcome sight.
another quick shot to my rear, with Dan, Scott, and Elwood
we stopped to get the first of the group shots, which was an opportunity to get a closer look at some of the bikes. Here we see John's Ciocc. So shiny, so pretty.
Dan's Raleigh Pro, Mk. III, held a special interest for me. Due to the success of their marketing in the 70's, I have a strong attraction to Raleigh's bikes.
The stem on the Pro is a 3TTT Record, but the decal is one I haven't seen before.
Elwood's RRB, built by Ron Boi, was intriguing too. I have an attraction to the works of small frame builders.
the fork crown....
quite a bit of clearance, which is useful again in an era where 25mm and 28mm tires are common.
a nice clean seat cluster on the RRB.....
....to be continued.....
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the sun eventually came out, which was a welcome sight.
another quick shot to my rear, with Dan, Scott, and Elwood
we stopped to get the first of the group shots, which was an opportunity to get a closer look at some of the bikes. Here we see John's Ciocc. So shiny, so pretty.
Dan's Raleigh Pro, Mk. III, held a special interest for me. Due to the success of their marketing in the 70's, I have a strong attraction to Raleigh's bikes.
The stem on the Pro is a 3TTT Record, but the decal is one I haven't seen before.
Elwood's RRB, built by Ron Boi, was intriguing too. I have an attraction to the works of small frame builders.
the fork crown....
quite a bit of clearance, which is useful again in an era where 25mm and 28mm tires are common.
a nice clean seat cluster on the RRB.....
....to be continued.....
Steve in Peoria
10-20-19, 04:28 PM
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Dan's Raleigh Pro, parked in accordance with Rule #1 : always park with the Drive Side Out!
This does provide a good look at the bike's geometry. A fair bit of clearance between the rear tire and seat tube, suggesting a bit more relaxed geometry, but the fork rake is pretty minimal for the early 70's.
The classic "fastback" seat stay attachment for the Raleigh Pro. I have no idea if it makes a difference functionally, but the marketing has me thinking that it is cool!
like fastback seat stays, sloping fork crowns also are a sign of better/sexier/faster. No idea if it is true or not, but it looks good to me.
whoever was doing the lug lining back in the early 70's clearly had more time (or less caffeine) than when they did my '74 International. This is done quite well!
back to John's place......
Alec on his very shiny LeTour 12.2....
that's pretty much the ride itself.
The ride itself was the quick part of the day. It took about 2 hours, but we spent a long time at John's place just gazing at his remarkable collection, and a bit of time taking in the details of each other's bikes.
Steve in Peoria
This does provide a good look at the bike's geometry. A fair bit of clearance between the rear tire and seat tube, suggesting a bit more relaxed geometry, but the fork rake is pretty minimal for the early 70's.
The classic "fastback" seat stay attachment for the Raleigh Pro. I have no idea if it makes a difference functionally, but the marketing has me thinking that it is cool!
like fastback seat stays, sloping fork crowns also are a sign of better/sexier/faster. No idea if it is true or not, but it looks good to me.
whoever was doing the lug lining back in the early 70's clearly had more time (or less caffeine) than when they did my '74 International. This is done quite well!
back to John's place......
Alec on his very shiny LeTour 12.2....
that's pretty much the ride itself.
The ride itself was the quick part of the day. It took about 2 hours, but we spent a long time at John's place just gazing at his remarkable collection, and a bit of time taking in the details of each other's bikes.
Steve in Peoria
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Wow Great shots! Thanks for capturing the day.
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10-21-19, 06:56 PM
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some quick details of Bernie's bike....
Nervex Pro bottom bracket shell
I just noticed that it uses a short length of cable housing to transition the rear derailleur cable from the down tube to the chain stay. This must pre-date the use of clamp-on cable guides, then?
Or was it just before anyone worried about brazing stuff to tubes?
Either way, it must mean it is before... 70's? mid 60's?
left rear drop-out.
Made of sheet steel; nothing fancy. It is interesting that the forward end of the slot angles down a bit. Wasn't that done to guide the wheel away from derailleurs that mounted on the chainstay, such as the Cyclo or Nivex?
btw, I love the fishmouth(?) ends where the stays attach to the dropout. very cool!
the sticker on the back of the seat tube.
The frame was recently painted by Andy Muzi, so this isn't a vintage sticker. It is pretty neat, though.
seat cluster lug.
Was it supposed to be slotted down to the circular cutout?
Taking a quick look at my International, I see that Raleigh did indeed cut the slot down to the circle (and drilled out the circle). The intent, I believe, is to provide some stress relief at the end of the slot.
lower head lug and fork crown
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Nervex Pro bottom bracket shell
I just noticed that it uses a short length of cable housing to transition the rear derailleur cable from the down tube to the chain stay. This must pre-date the use of clamp-on cable guides, then?
Or was it just before anyone worried about brazing stuff to tubes?
Either way, it must mean it is before... 70's? mid 60's?
left rear drop-out.
Made of sheet steel; nothing fancy. It is interesting that the forward end of the slot angles down a bit. Wasn't that done to guide the wheel away from derailleurs that mounted on the chainstay, such as the Cyclo or Nivex?
btw, I love the fishmouth(?) ends where the stays attach to the dropout. very cool!
the sticker on the back of the seat tube.
The frame was recently painted by Andy Muzi, so this isn't a vintage sticker. It is pretty neat, though.
seat cluster lug.
Was it supposed to be slotted down to the circular cutout?
Taking a quick look at my International, I see that Raleigh did indeed cut the slot down to the circle (and drilled out the circle). The intent, I believe, is to provide some stress relief at the end of the slot.
lower head lug and fork crown
Steve in Peoria
10-21-19, 07:07 PM
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If you check out my YouTube channel, the video on Bernie's bike was the quickest video I ever had that got over 500 views in one day.
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some quick details of Bernie's
left rear drop-out.
Made of sheet steel; nothing fancy. It is interesting that the forward end of the slot angles down a bit. Wasn't that done to guide the wheel away from derailleurs that mounted on the chainstay, such as the Cyclo or Nivex?
btw, I love the fishmouth(?) ends where the stays attach to the dropout. very cool!
the sticker on the back of the seat tube.
The frame was recently painted by Andy Muzi, so this isn't a vintage sticker. It is pretty neat, though.
Steve in Peoria
left rear drop-out.
Made of sheet steel; nothing fancy. It is interesting that the forward end of the slot angles down a bit. Wasn't that done to guide the wheel away from derailleurs that mounted on the chainstay, such as the Cyclo or Nivex?
btw, I love the fishmouth(?) ends where the stays attach to the dropout. very cool!
the sticker on the back of the seat tube.
The frame was recently painted by Andy Muzi, so this isn't a vintage sticker. It is pretty neat, though.
Steve in Peoria
10-21-19, 08:46 PM
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The connection of the decal to the dropouts is a fun detail! I'm going to guess the decal is a reproduction? How did you find out about Stallard and the BLRC?
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10-21-19, 09:03 PM
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Is there a known period when the Stallard dropouts were in production? That should help nail down when the frame was built, at least a little.
The connection of the decal to the dropouts is a fun detail! I'm going to guess the decal is a reproduction? How did you find out about Stallard and the BLRC?
Steve in Peoria
The connection of the decal to the dropouts is a fun detail! I'm going to guess the decal is a reproduction? How did you find out about Stallard and the BLRC?
Steve in Peoria
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10-21-19, 10:48 PM
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The mystery frame only had one shifter boss originally that I was told a normal shifter would not mount to.. I had an old 50`s French bike that had a unique boss that was designed for this type shifter. Nothing else would mount to the boss. Needed a nut at the end. Would love to see pictures of the original boss before mods?
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The mystery frame only had one shifter boss originally that I was told a normal shifter would not mount to.. I had an old 50`s French bike that had a unique boss that was designed for this type shifter. Nothing else would mount to the boss. Needed a nut at the end. Would love to see pictures of the original boss before mods?
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