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Old 07-19-19, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Do Zombies nest quotes?
Mine won't nest for the afterlife of me. No wonder the ghouls won't pay attention to me.
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Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
But since you latched on to who/what we were talking about, you've just given yourself away.
Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
Sorry, I don't have a clue what you are going on about.
Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
It's okay for you not to understand! Some day you'll reach Bizarro World Nirvana and it will all be foggy at the bottom.
As I posted earlier
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:... BTW, I don’t consider posting (and reading) BikeForums a waste of time.

Actually, a waste of time for me is replying to these RECURRING [emphasis added] wearisome replies about my posting style, instead of just ignoring my posts.
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Originally Posted by ksryder View Post
I bumped a 17-year-old thread the other day as a joke and not only did it get locked, now it seems to have disappeared.

That seems excessive.

And humorless.
Well last time I bumped an old thread it got deleted so instead I'll just link to it and mention that this 15-year-old thread about Jan Ulrich and Lance Armstrong has not aged well: https://www.bikeforums.net/professio...ean-lol-2.html
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I just wasted my time, again, because someone with a net "0" number of posts necro-posted in foo, and since I knew the answer (having just been through this with my kid), I replied to the question assuming it wasn't from 2010.

https://www.bikeforums.net/foo/64994...out-state.html

How about auto-locking threads with more than six months or a year of inactivity?

Maybe also a week (or longer) ban for a completely gratuitous necro-post.
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Yeah, some of the revived old posts are a nuisance, but this is a cycling forum. Bicycles are near timeless and so is a lot of the wisdom around them. If we lock down old threads we lose access to wisdom that might run contrary to today's opinions. (Not quite true, We can still read locked threads, but locking them tends to shut down original thought and prevents us from sharing that without starting a new thread. And new threads just to eventually get to what was realized 10 years ago; is that the best use of our intelligence?)

I do agree that the threads should have date started stamp on them. I am guilty of answering decade old posts.

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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
Yeah, some of the revived old posts are a nuisance, but this is a cycling forum. Bicycles are near timeless and so is a lot of the wisdom around them. If we lock down old threads we lose access to wisdom that might run contrary to today's opinions. (Not quite true, We can still read locked threads, but locking them tends to shut down original thought and prevents us from sharing that without starting a new thread. And new threads just to eventually get to what was realized 10 years ago; is that the best use of our intelligence?)

I do agree that the threads should have date started stamp on them. I am guilty of answering decade old posts.

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In an ideal world I would agree with you completely.

One of the problems with being a newbie on a forum is you don't want to (or are told not to) start a new thread on a commonly-asked question, so you use the search engine, your question pops up, and so you post to that thread. That seems perfectly reasonable. But many of these just seem to be random.

Clearly the clown that necro-posted this 10 year old foo (off-topic) thread on out-of-state car registration didn't meet the above criteria.

Maybe instead of locking the thread, there could be an icon or some readily identifiable demarcation of old threads, or a pop-up warning, or something.

I do agree that the threads should have date started stamp on them. I am guilty of answering decade old posts.

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They do, but unless you go looking for them, it isn't the first thing you spot. I usually look at the recent activity, and get sucked in that way. I suppose I should very carefully look for the thread creation date, but clearly I am not alone in missing this.

I do wonder if there is a correlation between gratuitous necro-posts and spammers trying to get their post count increased so they can spam the BB?
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Well, I just received an "infraction" because I had the temerity to call this out.

Great to see where the priorities are.
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This is starting to sound like much ado over mutton.



Mmmmm...Korean!
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Well, I just received an "infraction" because I had the temerity to call this out.

Great to see where the priorities are.
This is not true. You got an Infraction for using foul language in a family friendly forum.
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I actually get a kick out of zombie thread dredges. Seriously.

And I’m not a big zombie guy. Never saw one episode of “Walking Dead.”

At the same time I was in Guinness book for “largest collection of zombies in one place” (9,592 Asbury Park, NJ 2013)

Sadly, I’ve seen the record has since been toppled. 15,458 Minneapolis, MN 2014.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
This is not true. You got an Infraction for using foul language in a family friendly forum.
Which you would never have seen until I reported the thread.
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This is, by far, one of the most entertaining threads in recent BF history.

Thank you all for a good chuckle.

BTW, can zombies ride clipless pedals or do they prefer platform pedals. Just curious.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
This is, by far, one of the most entertaining threads in recent BF history.

Thank you all for a good chuckle.

BTW, can zombies ride clipless pedals or do they prefer platform pedals. Just curious.
Come on! They ride toe clips. With straps pulled tight and leather cleats. Black leather shoes. They like going fast. Look at any 100+ year racing photo. (No color photos in the day, but trust me, those shoes are black. Zombies wouldn't ride anything else.)
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
Which you would never have seen until I reported the thread.
Had you simply reported the post, instead of replying using foul language and bypassing the forum censor doing so, you would not have been infracted.


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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
Come on! They ride toe clips. With straps pulled tight and leather cleats. Black leather shoes. They like going fast. Look at any 100+ year racing photo. (No color photos in the day, but trust me, those shoes are black. Zombies wouldn't ride anything else.)
So what do vampires ride?

Clearly, not cross bikes.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
This is, by far, one of the most entertaining threads in recent BF history.

Thank you all for a good chuckle.

BTW, can zombies ride clipless pedals or do they prefer platform pedals. Just curious.
Zombies can use whatever but if a leg falls off it will not be pretty.
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So what do vampires ride?

Clearly, not cross bikes.
They don't use lights at night either.
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Had you simply reported the post, instead of replying using foul language and bypassing the forum censor doing so, you would not have been infracted. .
I think I would have, and, in retrospect, rightfully so. The infraction reads "Insulted Other Member(s)", which I did. (I took issue with the idea that someone with a zero post count is a legitimate "member", but the fact remains, I insulted the poster, and thus violated the terms you posted. I am sorry for this. (I called the poster an "idiot" for giving out dangerously incorrect advice in his necropost.))

I also used an abbreviation for what is considered by most of society to be a very minor vulgar term, not with the intent to subvert the censor, but simply because I did not want to be too graphic. (This is hardly even PG-13 stuff.) Abbreviations like SNAFU are common parlance, and refer to far worse language than what I implied. I did this out of frustration for having wasted a fair amount of time on what was a reasonable reply (based on a similar situation we had just experienced). Time and good will wasted simply because no one will implement a thread-lock on time-sensitive posts that have been inactive for years.

All of this is a complete waste of your time and mine, but I reserve the right to set the record straight. Having done so, please can we drop this and move on?

When we consider how much disruption and ill-will this one instance of necro-posting has generated, I hope that at some point those who can fix this problem will see the merit in doing so.

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I am against perma-locking threads after a set time. That wouldn't serve the overwhelming amount of information available here. New people go in and out of this hobby/lifestyle/whatever you wanna call it all the time.
When I first joined way back when, I had posted some stuff about an unknown frame/bike I have. Many years went past, my passion for cycling diminshed during that time, and when I recently rediscovered cycling I still had the mystery bike, "resurrected" the thread, and received a lot of helpful (but ultimately dead-end) info.
You never know who might post a tidbit of valuable info, and everyone is a newbie at one time.

On the other hand, there sure seems to be a lot of dredging up of ancient threads by people who post <5 times over the course of their membership. Annoying, but that's the reality.
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If they just post Hi, nice to see this/be here, maybe but you can't really make those judgments yourself and the moderators DO tell newbies to check things out and post pertinent things instead of This is my Xth post to be able to post links/pictures.

I mean, what's Noob to do to become an Oldie?
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By your request...

Boy I loved that game.
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I've always found wgscott to be one of the more interesting, entertaining and helpful posters at bikeforums, and I'm surprised to see that he has been banned. There was no post explaining the reason for this in the the "banned" thread. I know the Admins have a difficult job, but sometimes they just get it wrong. The information to noise ratio was already bad at BF. Now its even worse.




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I think I would have, and, in retrospect, rightfully so. The infraction reads "Insulted Other Member(s)", which I did. (I took issue with the idea that someone with a zero post count is a legitimate "member", but the fact remains, I insulted the poster, and thus violated the terms you posted. I am sorry for this. (I called the poster an "idiot" for giving out dangerously incorrect advice in his necropost.))

I also used an abbreviation for what is considered by most of society to be a very minor vulgar term, not with the intent to subvert the censor, but simply because I did not want to be too graphic. (This is hardly even PG-13 stuff.) Abbreviations like SNAFU are common parlance, and refer to far worse language than what I implied. I did this out of frustration for having wasted a fair amount of time on what was a reasonable reply (based on a similar situation we had just experienced). Time and good will wasted simply because no one will implement a thread-lock on time-sensitive posts that have been inactive for years.

All of this is a complete waste of your time and mine, but I reserve the right to set the record straight. Having done so, please can we drop this and move on?

When we consider how much disruption and ill-will this one instance of necro-posting has generated, I hope that at some point those who can fix this problem will see the merit in doing so.
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That looks to be correct...wgscott is not listed, although if you find the thread in question the moderator did specify the reason why that was so.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
This is not true. You got an Infraction for using foul language in a family friendly forum.
AHA! I knew it was there somewhere. If I were in that yard the dog would have bit me!

But can it please be properly noted in Banned Users as well, it's not there on a glance?

I would speculate that he is gone for being contrary to the moderator and a handful, with a quite unsuccessful viewpoint about it.

Psssst...it's up ^^^^There https://www.bikeforums.net/21042180-post64.html


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